What
Time is it, Mr. Fox?
February
27, 2002
By Pamela Troy
YEAR 1
Compnet Political Discussion Board
Sender: Albert Fox
To: Claire Presley
Topic: Dudley
But the problem is, you see, the Reverend Mr. Jeff Dudley
denies saying it.
As a conservative (an unfashionable thing to be these days,
I will admit, but then, I've never been one for trends) I
tend to be just a wee bit skeptical about believing EVERYTHING
I hear from the liberal media. Now, I realize that Jeff Dudley,
as a man of God and one of those benighted "Bible Thumpers"
you liberals so openly despise, is instantly suspect in your
eyes, but I invite you to consider, just for a moment, the
possibility that the man has been misquoted. Consider that,
whatever his beliefs, he's plainly not an idiot and is highly
unlikely to deny saying something he is alleged to have said
in front of several reporters. Is it really likely that he
would issue such a blatant denial if there were people who
could prove he'd actually said it?
Before you get all outraged and huffy and accuse me of being
in league with whatever dire right-wing conspiracy you suspect,
let me make it clear that I do NOT endorse the sentiments
in the quote you ascribe to him. Nor do I entirely agree with
much of what Dudley HAS gone on record as saying. That does
NOT mean, however, that I am willing to stand by and allow
someone to be grossly misrepresented, no matter how strongly
I may disagree with his views. And that is the difference
I'd like to observe, between conservatives and liberals and
why, whatever misguided views may sometimes be expressed by
certain fringe minorities of the right, liberals remain a
far greater threat to civil liberties than the powerless and
voiceless right.
YEAR 4
Compnet Political Discussion Board
Sender: Albert Fox
To: Claire Presley
Topic: The Rev On TV
That old quote again. Sigh.
Are you familiar with the word "context?" I invite you to
look it up. Yes, he may have said those words and then foolishly
denied saying them the first time they were quoted, but anyone
with half a brain can see that the construction you and other
liberals have put on them is completely false. MUST you take
everything so literally? When you were a child and your mother
got exasperated with you and said "If you do that again, I'll
kill you," did you call child services and tell them you were
in fear for your life? (Scratch that. Judging from the messages
you've posted to this board over the past few years, you probably
did.)
It is completely unfair, not to mention unseemly, to take
words that are obviously meant figuratively and either interpret
them literally or pretend to interpret them literally. While
I will acknowledge that Mr. Dudley does sometimes get a little
emphatic in his rhetoric, I think his greatest flaw is naivete.
He actually believes that he can say things in public and
have them received in the spirit in which they were offered.
No doubt, he will get more experienced once his show gets
national syndication and will eventually be disabused of that
shockingly unliberal notion.
YEAR 8
Compnet Political Discussion Board
Sender: Albert Fox
To: Claire Presley
Topic: Bestseller Topics
I knew it was only a matter of time before you brought that
up.
So what if he said it again? So what if he wrote a book expanding
on the topic? You can post as many quotes and as many footnotes
from Dudley's latest as you want, it's still just words. Nothing
more. Liberals are not being blacklisted or physically attacked
in this country. Crowds of Dudley-inspired Brownshirts are
not roaming the streets and smashing store windows. You know
as well as I do he doesn't have the power to put what he proposes
into effect, and it is truly a mystery to me why you keep
obsessing about this man.
Nobody, after all, is forcing you to watch his television
network or read his books. If it makes the poor boobs who
lap up his stuff happy, let the man say whatever he wants!
It's his right. Do you have something against the First Amendment?
Trust me. As a conservative and a Republican who has been
active in several campaigns, I can assure you that Jeff Dudley
is NOT considered a player, and using his words to denigrate
the aims of the Republican party and paint us as a bunch of
religious right extremists is grossly unfair. The man is a
televangelist. A very wealthy and successful televangelist,
I'll grant you, but that hardly means his word is going to
become law anytime soon.
YEAR 14
Compnet Political Discussion Board
Sender: Albert Fox
To: Claire Presley
Topic: Your Paranoia
Look, I've said it all along, and I'll say I again. Jeff
Dudley is an idiot. His pronouncements are read mainly for
their entertainment value, not just because they are hilarious
in themselves, but because it's fun to watch liberals like
you get so predictably red in the face and indignant when
you take him seriously.
Yes, I looked at those links you sent me. What they describe
is horrible and the people responsible should and will be
punished. If you'll just glance at some of the pictures accompanying
those newspaper articles, you will see that the thugs responsible
for the bombings, beatings, and other incidents are marginal
types, tattooed, shaven-headed trailer trash who hardly require
Jeff Dudley to inspire them to commit mayhem. You know and
I know that there are extremists at both ends of the spectrum,
the right AND the left. And no, I have no intention of sending
you similar articles about recent left-wing violence. There
are few things duller than that silly game in which people
online pelt each other with cites. The fact that liberals
are just as capable of being obnoxious morons as the right
is evident without me resorting to your tactics.
When you make an assessment of any political party, you should
look, not to the streets, or even the airwaves, but to the
people they have actually put into power. Every time Dudley
has run for office he's lost - badly. As a moderate conservative,
I didn't vote for him, I wouldn't vote for him, I know nobody
among the many moderate conservatives in my circle who did
or would vote for him. And surely, after all these years of
correspondence, all this time of what I, at least, consider
an online friendship, you know that I would never advocate
or even excuse the policies or attitudes Dudley has embraced.
Try to climb down off of that frightened perch on your soapbox,
look around, and put a little - just a little! - trust in
the voters of this country.
YEAR 20
Compnet Political Discussion Board
Sender: Albert Fox
To: Claire Presley
Topic: The Election
I know this is a clich�, but I have to say it - Get over
it.
The election is finished. The decision was made. You can
pick at the details all you want, cite anecdotal polling-place
horror stories until your fingers fall off, the fact is that
your guy lost, and that's all there is to it. I'm sorry, but
I had to laugh at that picture you sent me, even though I
know that you were in dead earnest. A riot? Oh come on, Claire!
Take a look at those sedate "rioters." Yes, they look angry,
but are you seriously telling me that these young executive
types combed their hair and put on those ties so they could
hold a riot? And what came of it, really? So a few vote counters
got chased down a hall and one panicked to the point where
he needed the police to hold his hand! If it was such a terrible
thing, why have no arrests been made?
Furthermore, second guessing our new president's decisions
about appointments and foreign policy is simply counter-productive
and, this early in his term, profoundly inappropriate. Of
course he gave the appointment to Jeff Dudley! He owes Dudley.
The whole party owes Dudley. That doesn't mean we're handing
the reins over to him, just that we're giving the man a title
and a seat at official dinners. That members of your own party
confirmed his appointment indicates that most people who understand
these things know it's a harmless post. Though I don't agree
with a lot of what he says, I certainly am not going to begrudge
the man a little recognition after all the time and effort
he's put in over the years.
Rest assured, Claire, we will keep an eye on him.
YEAR 22
Compnet Political Discussion Board
Sender: Albert Fox
To: Claire Presley
Topic: Now is the Time
Do you understand that we are at war?
I'm sorry, but I really have to ask, because I don't get
the impression that you comprehend this reality, and the sacrifices
that are required by it. We can't live in the past. There
are things that we are all simply going to have to give up
for the duration of this war, and the sooner you understand
this the better it will be for everyone.
It is genuinely painful for me to have to say this, but I
am rapidly losing sympathy. In the wake of a terrorist attack
when the rest of the country has pulled together and agreed
to work towards a common goal, you insist on standing on the
sidelines and carping. Now is not the time, Claire. A year
or two ago, your messages were amusing and often thought-provoking.
They are not so any longer.
Now, I have read over several times that quote from Dudley's
recent speech that you sent and I must confess I am completely
at a loss over what it is you object to so strongly in his
very simple, very truthful statement. While normally I have
little use for the man, in this crisis he has found his voice
and is worth listening to. This country - your country - is
in danger. That is a fact that is undeniable. Yes, the Constitution
is a great, and a glorious document, but for pity's sake,
it's not an idol to be worshiped! That you would sacrifice
us all to some abstract goal of fairness embodied in an ideal
on paper is truly beyond belief. I would never have expected
it of you.
Please, Claire. Not now. Later, but not now. Be patient.
YEAR 25
Compnet Political Discussion Board
Sender: Albert Fox
To: Claire Presley
Topic: Dudley
I was sorry to hear about your brother.
There are limits to a country's forbearance. When someone
is foolish enough to provoke the authorities into a strong
response, it's unfortunate, but the fact is, most Americans
will understand why it had to happen and place the blame firmly
where it belongs. Please, I implore you, stop and think before
you act or speak. I would truly hate to see you hurt yourself
in a similar manner. And, yes, I heard that speech by Jeff
Dudley, and noted that sentence you pointed out, the one you
insist should be familiar to me. It is familiar to me only
as common sense is familiar to any thinking person. What Dudley
said is nothing less than a fact known to any true American.
Do you have a problem with it?
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