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Doremus

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150. If any of the senators don't get the nomination

Fri Feb 21, 2020, 09:44 AM

Feb 2020

they’re better utilized in the senate. Any of them can be of more benefit there than as second fiddle.

It’s taken 40 years of incrementalism from moderates to bring us to the brink of disaster. We aren’t going to fix what ails us by doing more if the same.

It’s way past time for a new strategy. Either Elizabeth or Bernie can do that for us.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Why can't Sanders realize that he shouldn't be running? [View all] Tennessee Hillbilly Feb 2020 OP

He's winning. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #1

He's winning against the balkanized middle in the Democratic primaries. gembaby1 Feb 2020 #25

agree 40RatRod Feb 2020 #73

The legion of Republican voters that haven't garnered more John Fante Feb 2020 #205

We shall see leftieNanner Feb 2020 #28

His win enid602 Feb 2020 #31

No, you're bein WAY too logical! The more Bernie increases the lead, the more he needs to quit!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #41

There is a HUGE difference between wnylib Feb 2020 #98

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #126

⭐⭐⭐ Beautifully explained! Thank you! ⭐⭐⭐ NurseJackie Feb 2020 #143

Sanders has a large independent base Doremus Feb 2020 #147

So if Sanders has such a large Indie wnylib Feb 2020 #149

If any of the senators don't get the nomination Doremus Feb 2020 #150

Second fiddle? Sure. After all, Johnson wnylib Feb 2020 #157

PS wnylib Feb 2020 #160

Bill Clinton and Barack Obama were both centrists. MoonRiver Feb 2020 #158

I think centrism, at the moment, is wnylib Feb 2020 #161

Well said! I totally agree! MoonRiver Feb 2020 #169

Do you really think that Sanders as a third party candidate would have Bettie Feb 2020 #177

Finally, some sense!! I applaud you... InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #179

No, I do not. My point is that he wnylib Feb 2020 #193

I agree with Biden/Warren Baked Potato Feb 2020 #178

I like the "Warren" part!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #180

Warren/Harris would wake them up! Baked Potato Feb 2020 #192

Don't count on Warren as a Sanders wnylib Feb 2020 #194

very well said wnylib lanlady Feb 2020 #201

he has a plurality against 3 moderates who have split a much larger section of the pie greenman3610 Feb 2020 #46

According to polls, Bernie beats every candidate in head-to-head matchups. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #71

Truth!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #184

He's getting about half the numbers he got last time, when he lost. Not a good trend. pnwmom Feb 2020 #56

So far, yes, and you'd think the mushy middle would get the message Warpy Feb 2020 #94

Lol winning is 30%. Typical Sanders devoteeism. All devotion to simeine grantcart Feb 2020 #100

NO HE ISN'T. He BARELY won 2 states so far. That is hardly W I N N I N G !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! trueblue2007 Feb 2020 #109

umm... no... as of today... ahoysrcsm Feb 2020 #138

For now he is. Let's wait for results from other than 2, tiny nearly all-white states. brush Feb 2020 #159

Trump is trying to pick his general election opponent Gothmog Feb 2020 #207

Because millions of Americans support him and want him to run. It's not just about Sanders, jalan48 Feb 2020 #2

Its possible that being up in the polls by double digits and having 7 million people contributing to CentralMass Feb 2020 #3

he's been running since 1971 evertonfc Feb 2020 #4

Being a mayor, a congressman, or a senator is a real job. Boulevardier Feb 2020 #139

ego. barbtries Feb 2020 #5

I find him to be an arrogant and entitled man. gembaby1 Feb 2020 #33

The VP steps in jimfields33 Feb 2020 #43

Wonderful! gembaby1 Feb 2020 #57

President Nina Turner won't miss a beat. nobuddy Feb 2020 #69

I doubt anyone would. No guarantees jimfields33 Feb 2020 #111

Of course not. JFK was assassinated. gembaby1 Feb 2020 #119

Post removed Post removed Feb 2020 #53

I agree, his ego gets in the way of his good judgement. redstatebluegirl Feb 2020 #202

I agree. llmart Feb 2020 #52

Ralph Naderism MFM008 Feb 2020 #6

Yes. Ellen Forradalom Feb 2020 #18

He is leading by 10 points nationally - RCP averages. Same crowd ? CentralMass Feb 2020 #61

Could be Dem4Life1102 Feb 2020 #27

from a Kenucky Hillbilly William769 Feb 2020 #7

... sheshe2 Feb 2020 #24

second that handmade34 Feb 2020 #44

From another Kentucky hillbilly. Meadowoak Feb 2020 #75

Don't disagree, but I have to wash socks. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #8

This isn't about the candidates, this is about the voters. Thomas Hurt Feb 2020 #9

"and then goes on to lose"...you can say this about any of the Democrats then Perseus Feb 2020 #14

40% of eligible voters don't vote, it is all excuses. We get out the vote or we don't Thomas Hurt Feb 2020 #34

Agreed. 58Sunliner Feb 2020 #66

Oh Bernie folk will find plenty to blame Kerrycrat Feb 2020 #84

You mean, like Bernie is being blamed before he even gets the nomination? All these assumptions? Perseus Feb 2020 #120

I think he felt he had to answer Klobuchar Kerrycrat Feb 2020 #164

Had not heard that... TBH, that doesn't sound like the Amy I know. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #185

Dont be dismayed... all these attacks against Bernie is PRECISELY why he's winnin... InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #182

okay, okay, okay DENVERPOPS Feb 2020 #121

Why can't people realize that this war against Sanders is not going to change minds Perseus Feb 2020 #10

+++++ Cornus Feb 2020 #35

There is also the war by Sanders and his Bernie bros. keithbvadu2 Feb 2020 #95

And how is that Bernie's fault? How do we know who is controlling these people? Perseus Feb 2020 #123

We can look at Bernie's campaign staff PatSeg Feb 2020 #189

A few dozen people trading Twitter-worthy barbs on an obscure website is not a war. Bonobo Feb 2020 #132

It DOES have the opposite effect... it's called the "Baseless Bernie Bashing Backlash"!! I LOVE IT!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #186

And right below your comment Nate Silver says Amy has a less than 1 in 100 chance of winning. n/t zackymilly Feb 2020 #11

I think its all the support he is getting. And he wants to win. jmg257 Feb 2020 #12

Yes, it's because Bernie is the Champion of common working class and low-income folks on Main Street InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #187

Because a ton of people support him ibegurpard Feb 2020 #13

Pfft! Jirel Feb 2020 #15

I love the fact that Warren supporters come out and defend Sanders Perseus Feb 2020 #124

Because he's been running for so long, that he hardly knows how to do anything else. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2020 #16

Lets see. Weve heard that he isnt winning by a lanslide and should dtop out and make way for CentralMass Feb 2020 #23

I don't think he should drop out for anyone. And I was mostly kidding! CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2020 #30

+1 Celerity Feb 2020 #48

Sorry. I teplied to the wrong comment. Hello back and good luck. : -) CentralMass Feb 2020 #62

he may take issue with some of your assumptions KayF Feb 2020 #17

So Sherman A1 Feb 2020 #19

I'm very much not for Sanders.... but... Steven Maurer Feb 2020 #20

Why does he have the right to wnylib Feb 2020 #140

He now **IS** a Democrat Steven Maurer Feb 2020 #174

America will never elect an admitted and avowed Socialist. Period. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #21

Being left behind can very frustrating. i get it Kurt V. Feb 2020 #36

Well, America elected an avowed traitor and racist imbecile. A Socialist doesn't seem so bad. LonePirate Feb 2020 #42

Oh yeah... He did it all in his own. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #58

He sure has the biggest crowds and is doing well in the polls womanofthehills Feb 2020 #50

Harry Truman on Socialism Woodycall Feb 2020 #54

Good quote! I'm keeping it. calimary Feb 2020 #68

From BS in 2011.. Cha Feb 2020 #65

Keeper! keithbvadu2 Feb 2020 #97

I agree... cheezmaka Feb 2020 #74

FDR just didn't exist. He didn't win 4 times. It was all just a leftist dream IronLionZion Feb 2020 #96

LOL NurseJackie Feb 2020 #103

LBJ never got us Medicare IronLionZion Feb 2020 #116

That's the appropriate response. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #131

Apparently they think we're stupid... but we're not. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #145

Neither of them were avowed socialists. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #130

Bernie is not a socialist and isn't trying to seize the means of production IronLionZion Feb 2020 #146

"Bernie Wants You to Own More of the Means of Production" LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #170

FDR was an avowed capitalist. brush Feb 2020 #156

So is Trump IronLionZion Feb 2020 #166

Oh please. The point is FDR was an avowed capitalist not an avowed socialist as some are inferring. brush Feb 2020 #167

He used a lot of tax dollars for his avowed capitalism IronLionZion Feb 2020 #168

So am I but it's not called democratic socialism. brush Feb 2020 #171

Correct, he's using the wrong term IronLionZion Feb 2020 #172

Yes. Socialism, even with the word democratic in front of it is a loser in present-day America... brush Feb 2020 #173

I Agree... cheezmaka Feb 2020 #204

A lot of people support him, there's no reason why he shouldn't run. Far more support him than Autumn Feb 2020 #22

I believe the second choice of all the other candidates have chosen Bernie. Doitnow Feb 2020 #108

What makes him think that he deserves the democratic nomination? The voters and supporters aikoaiko Feb 2020 #26

Maybe because he is reminding the Dems what they say what they stand for and should start doing Doitnow Feb 2020 #112

I think you're right. aikoaiko Feb 2020 #115

This message was self-deleted by its author Zolorp Feb 2020 #29

Nice Cornus Feb 2020 #39

Nice Zolorp Feb 2020 #40

Sanders is not responsible for trump being POTUS. There were lots of factors and being Kurt V. Feb 2020 #32

re: "There are many other democrats who would have a better chance to beat trump." thesquanderer Feb 2020 #37

Welcome to DU, guillaumeb Feb 2020 #38

I am glad he's running David__77 Feb 2020 #45

LOL... ME TOO!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #195

He should have dropped out after his heart attack. But like all the other candidates underthematrix Feb 2020 #47

I promised to not say anything negative about the Democratic candidates. TNNurse Feb 2020 #49

no, he does not realize Skittles Feb 2020 #51

Hmmmm.... krakfiend Feb 2020 #55

I find Rebl2 Feb 2020 #59

In 2016, I was a big Bernie supporter... karin_sj Feb 2020 #60

Yep. Memories of McGovern waft through my head. calimary Feb 2020 #81

I don't think he cares. volstork Feb 2020 #63

BS' own words in 2011 Cha Feb 2020 #64

There's one thing he got right radical noodle Feb 2020 #70

yeah he did Cha Feb 2020 #77

He actually told on himself... LOL cheezmaka Feb 2020 #88

Yes.. where you been, cheezmaka?! Cha Feb 2020 #90

Real busy.. cheezmaka Feb 2020 #196

Good on you.. real life! Cha Feb 2020 #197

You're right... cheezmaka Feb 2020 #198

Why can't Bloomberg realize he shouldn't be running? Fiendish Thingy Feb 2020 #67

It's not an either/or proposition Orrex Feb 2020 #72

HAHAHAHA!! YESSSSSS!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #181

HE KNOWS. apcalc Feb 2020 #76

Thank you! DarleenMB Feb 2020 #78

Why can't you realize that he doesn't see it from your point of view? milestogo Feb 2020 #79

Because he's as narcissistic as Trump. bitterross Feb 2020 #80

I don't know why the front runner is running nobuddy Feb 2020 #82

Ego wisteria Feb 2020 #83

I supported him in the last primary and wholeheartedly ALBliberal Feb 2020 #85

Yes seta1950 Feb 2020 #86

I'm voting for the democratic candidate in November... the_sly_pig Feb 2020 #87

Anxiety and despair, yes. Joy to his revolutionaries and progressive believers, but not to emmaverybo Feb 2020 #89

Of course Sanders should be running! Fran2020 Feb 2020 #91

I am not sure I know most of those things. Gore1FL Feb 2020 #92

I actually BigOleDummy Feb 2020 #93

His ego awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #99

How in the heck do you come Ahpook Feb 2020 #101

There must be an explanation bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #102

Who are our socialists undermining capitalism? KPN Feb 2020 #104

The interests all align. /nt bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #105

Whe are they? You haven't answered my question. KPN Feb 2020 #106

As you say, the interests all align. And add the GOP and Hortensis Feb 2020 #148

It is ALL ABOUT HE! democratisphere Feb 2020 #107

Why do Bernie bashers hate democracy? johnnyplankton Feb 2020 #110

Maybe it's the fact that he's wildly popular AverageJoe Feb 2020 #113

Sanders IS the unity candidate. Most popular, most favorable, beats Trump floppyboo Feb 2020 #114

I'm not a new account. Tennessee Hillbilly Feb 2020 #162

Hey, he is free to run just like anyone else. Now what I do disagree with him is that he seems to cstanleytech Feb 2020 #117

So since you feel that strongly about Bernie NOT running... Stellar Feb 2020 #118

Ego, pure ego. riverwalker Feb 2020 #122

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #125

"Historically, a populist faux or not beats a non populist every time" TwilightZone Feb 2020 #129

Sanders is winning because the bottom 50% is getting squeezed at140 Feb 2020 #127

Damn right! Ahpook Feb 2020 #133

Slow change and status quo is not going to cut it. at140 Feb 2020 #135

One of my many concerns... Bayard Feb 2020 #128

I worry the opposite. All the Bernie attacks and claims that he can't CentralMass Feb 2020 #137

He is running to represent people who no one else wants to represent. dbolski Feb 2020 #134

Correct, because the bottom 50% have zero superpacs. at140 Feb 2020 #136

"no one else wants to represent" TwilightZone Feb 2020 #141

+1 betsuni Feb 2020 #142

+2! Cha Feb 2020 #144

+1000. ehrnst Feb 2020 #153

Who on the Dem POTUS ticket is not running to represent everyone? ehrnst Feb 2020 #152

If the others in race are not representing moderate views dbolski Feb 2020 #163

You avoided answering the question, and tried to change the subject. ehrnst Feb 2020 #165

+1000 Bumperstickers Feb 2020 #190

His ego he's narcissistic TEB Feb 2020 #151

So glad we have you with all your knowledge about who should and shouldn't run. Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #154

Because he believes in what he's doing ismnotwasm Feb 2020 #155

IMO He knows that his running hurts Democrats Progressive dog Feb 2020 #175

Senator Sanders JustAnotherGen Feb 2020 #176

Ego. Pure and simple. HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #183

This AJT Feb 2020 #188

If sanders is the nominee, trump will win 45+ states and we will have Speaker Kevin McCarthy Gothmog Feb 2020 #191

This is totally correct. The Trump propaganda machine will destroy Benie's chances. Stuart G Feb 2020 #200

It's probably all of his voters are convincing him otherwise. nt Gore1FL Feb 2020 #199

1. It's an ego stroke for him Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #203

If the Russians want to re-elect Trump makes perfect sense they want Sanders Gothmog Feb 2020 #206

Narcissists are like that nini Feb 2020 #208