Democratic Primaries

Celerity

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42. Many of Bernie's ideas are great, but his packaging and the cadre with which he surrounds himself

Fri Feb 14, 2020, 08:45 PM

Feb 2020

are terribly divisive and non-productive. He alienates so many potential allies in a forlorn quest for revolutionary confrontation. The average decent American does not want to go into a Paris Commune-style overthrow of a preternaturally vast amount of norms and conventions, which, now, just like in 1871, will inevitably end in La semaine sanglante, at least on a symbolic level.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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I'm a Democrat and not a Democratic Socialist [View all] evertonfc Feb 2020 OP

Sounds like Bernie Sanders is not your preferred candidate for the nomination. DanTex Feb 2020 #1

Being a go along get along candidate will end the Democratic party. brutus smith Feb 2020 #2

Absolutely Lunabell Feb 2020 #4

We can't let democracy mzmolly Feb 2020 #51

I am a Democrat and a Democratic socialist. Lunabell Feb 2020 #3

+1000 brutus smith Feb 2020 #11

So you believe the state should own and control the means of production? Celerity Feb 2020 #12

Blah, blah, blah Lunabell Feb 2020 #15

'blah blah blah' as response is a fail. Please answer my simple question: Do you believe the state Celerity Feb 2020 #17

Great post. Thank you. n/t Laelth Feb 2020 #21

thank you so much Celerity Feb 2020 #23

Butting in, sorry... PETRUS Feb 2020 #24

You get a heart for that... Dennis Donovan Feb 2020 #27

Thanks, man! PETRUS Feb 2020 #31

Well, Bernie should have followed Norman Thomas' maxim Celerity Feb 2020 #36

As a tactical suggestion, you could be right. PETRUS Feb 2020 #39

yw! nice chatting Celerity Feb 2020 #43

You bet. Just finished the Verso article. Rather interesting. nt PETRUS Feb 2020 #44

I just joined to let you know how much I enjoyed this post Sympthsical Feb 2020 #25

welcome to DU and thank you so much for the kind words! Celerity Feb 2020 #38

But of course you'll enthusiastically support Bloomberg if he gets the nod, right? marble falls Feb 2020 #45

Without the slightest hesitation. Sympthsical Feb 2020 #46

Poly-sci? ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #47

Writing posts on a phone is a treacherous endeavor Sympthsical Feb 2020 #52

+1000 Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #29

Many of Bernie's ideas are great, but his packaging and the cadre with which he surrounds himself Celerity Feb 2020 #42

He wastes his time and his supporters time trying to redefine Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #49

Well said Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #63

+ 1000 nt Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #50

Hear hear!! Doremus Feb 2020 #57

Americans really need to get over their fear of social democracy. Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #5

And might even be center MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #7

Hell, I know people who think Sanders is centrist. Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #9

so why does Bernie falsely self-label as a democratic socialist? He is simply a social democrat, and Celerity Feb 2020 #18

He's probably philosophically DS but pragmatically SD Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #19

If he was pragmatic, he would never self-label as a dem soc. Furthermore, IF he actually is Celerity Feb 2020 #20

We will have to agree to disagree on that. Gravitycollapse Feb 2020 #35

he couldn't even if he wanted to, lolol Celerity Feb 2020 #37

They won't get over it by November. nt gollygee Feb 2020 #55

Is there a social democrat running? brooklynite Feb 2020 #59

That WILL NOT HAPPEN in 2020 Zolorp Feb 2020 #66

i certainly appreciate your 30 years on working on campaigns but those metrics no longer apply Kurt V. Feb 2020 #6

Well lots of well known people have been Democratic Socialists that are respected in the Democratic Nanjeanne Feb 2020 #8

No One On Your List Horizens Feb 2020 #53

... Cha Feb 2020 #10

There is a 5 month age gap between Bloom and Bernie ChubbyStar Feb 2020 #13

Bloomberg hasn't had a recent heart attack Zolorp Feb 2020 #67

So you don't believe in social security? Medicare? Medicaid? Labor Unions? Scotch-Irish Feb 2020 #14

no, they are not. They are democratic policies enacted by democrats. Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #32

Don't forget Meyer London Donkees Feb 2020 #64

I am in total agreement. Desert grandma Feb 2020 #16

+1 TheCowsCameHome Feb 2020 #22

Biden, Bloomberg, Sanders....All nearing 80 apcalc Feb 2020 #26

Ron Dellums was a DSA vice chair. David__77 Feb 2020 #28

Semantics colsohlibgal Feb 2020 #30

Bernie and his "Bernie or Bust" supporters will have been responsible for redraider1974 Feb 2020 #33

You tell me, why...after many years in the Senate, would one apcalc Feb 2020 #40

More Bernie voters voted for HRC Doremus Feb 2020 #58

I'm a FDR Democrat. William769 Feb 2020 #34

Socialism Smackdown2019 Feb 2020 #41

I could work with that. It's the slander, attacks, and damage they do to the party that I detest. Amimnoch Feb 2020 #48

I believe it is a hill we cannot overcome in the General Election Ferrets are Cool Feb 2020 #54

I'll never support a Socialist or anyone who wants to hijack our party. NurseJackie Feb 2020 #56

The party you are speaking of was hijacked years ago by corporatists. Lunabell Feb 2020 #60

Haaaaaa! NurseJackie Feb 2020 #61

You had to hold your nose in '16? MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #65

Nobody is a Democratic Socialism. It's an oxymoron. robbedvoter Feb 2020 #62