Democratic Primaries

DaDeacon

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151. They dont see it.

Tue Feb 4, 2020, 07:06 AM

Feb 2020

And what's worse is that it comes from a place that doesn't logically make sense. They hate Bernie because they are afraid his change is too big or that Trump voters will not vote for a Democrat?!? This is the MSNBC style pandering to the wall street class. I'm sorry kiddo the more I see here the more worried I get that many have bought into this Repulican lite shit. Lesson that many haven't learned *IF WE DONT EXPAND OUR BASE TO THE WORKING CLASS WE LOSE* bringing in a New York millionaire will not do it. Don't be dimm Trump will lose if we have a message that the poor and working class identify with. Hillary lost because Trump was able to frame her as out of touch and elite. In states like Michigan where she lost by 2000 some odd votes how many voters just didn't vote for her because she didn't see a need to visit in that final run up or as a have long suspected it was a f*ck you for the flint water crisis BUT my point being this narrative that people want safe moderates aren't played out in polls or policy. BE BOLD! Fight for things you believe or no one will fight with you!

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If you could choose only between Bloomberg and Sanders to be our nominee, [View all] highplainsdem Feb 2020 OP

Neither but if the goal is to win, I'm going with Bloomberg. Drunken Irishman Feb 2020 #1

I'm not asking that you like either. Only which one you think would be best as our nominee against highplainsdem Feb 2020 #3

Yes Sanders is my last pick exboyfil Feb 2020 #26

Bloomberg would beat trump and help down ballot candidates Gothmog Feb 2020 #2

I agree. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #98

Bloomberg would have a shot at winning. Bernie wouldn't. So, no contest. MH1 Feb 2020 #4

I hope it won't come to that! Dietz Feb 2020 #5

Wow. 31 votes in the first 10 minutes, and 28 of them for Bloomberg. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #6

Hmmm. DU speaks. Ghost Dog Feb 2020 #58

This is an interesting result because 4 years ago, right here on DU, Ron Green Feb 2020 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author Fresh_Start Feb 2020 #12

I don't hold that against Bloomberg... but still think Bernie will defeat him when Biden drops out!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #66

Biden is not dropping out obamanut2012 Feb 2020 #154

Yup, Joe WILL drop out... just watch and see!! It's history repeating itself, as in 1988 & 2008!! InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #155

It's actually embarrassing for Sanders supporters on DU compared to 2016 wyldwolf Feb 2020 #13

I have the TV on, too. The game hasn't started yet. (Go, Chiefs!) highplainsdem Feb 2020 #16

Yeah! Go CHEFS! Great googly moogly. wyldwolf Feb 2020 #18

Chefs? cwydro Feb 2020 #28

Yeah, Chefs wyldwolf Feb 2020 #30

Many people on both sides here were purged during and after that primary season Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #20

Yeah, I keep hanging around (mostly reading, not posting) hoping that DU Ron Green Feb 2020 #21

"Bernie friendly website that devolved into a cesspool." wyldwolf Feb 2020 #24

Yes Cha Feb 2020 #126

A number of HRC supporters took breaks from DU during the last primary, because of the reactions highplainsdem Feb 2020 #25

oh please Skittles Feb 2020 #60

Best be thick-skinned to hang out and contribute here. Ghost Dog Feb 2020 #61

DU is an echo chamber dualboy24 Feb 2020 #87

NO! nice Swipe at DU Members.. Cha Feb 2020 #124

Have you failed to notice ... nolawarlock Feb 2020 #129

DU would be head over heels Codeine Feb 2020 #135

I hear ya TheRealNorth Feb 2020 #145

NewsFlash: This is the primaries.. we don't Cha Feb 2020 #161

go over to that Bernie Bro/Broette JPR site and THEN talk to me about echo chambers Celerity Feb 2020 #159

+1 Preach it. n/t Laelth Feb 2020 #165

Leaving of one's own volition is not a purge. LanternWaste Feb 2020 #95

Duh. Did I say it was? Tom Rinaldo Feb 2020 #97

Many cosplay progressives chose not to accept the new TOS... SidDithers Feb 2020 #109

Yeah, I remember said cesspool ... nolawarlock Feb 2020 #130

Most of those people have left. Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #23

Things change. I supported Sanders in 2016 The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #29

This pretty well sums up my experience too. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #34

Everything you said speaks for me too. I started out actually supporting Bernie. Vivienne235729 Feb 2020 #83

I hope you're right. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #86

No offense meant by this, but between the 3 old white men, Bernie seems to Vivienne235729 Feb 2020 #140

I hate generalizations about Bernie supporters. Jack_Warriner Feb 2020 #136

These are individual opinions. I would hope Bernie supporters are smart enough to Vivienne235729 Feb 2020 #146

Ditto drmeow Feb 2020 #100

Most Bernie supporters were driven away by the horrible behavior of some after the '06 primaries Kentonio Feb 2020 #93

Read your own posting history...nt SidDithers Feb 2020 #111

I'm quite aware of my own posting history thanks Kentonio Feb 2020 #115

Really? I would call this an attack: LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #116

The worst sort of revisionism. Codeine Feb 2020 #137

Nope. Kentonio Feb 2020 #148

Yup, cant say I blame 'em for leavin; came close myself, which Im sure wouldve made many here happy InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2020 #156

I chose the one thats fit to be in charge of an organization of any consequence nt msongs Feb 2020 #8

Bloomberg. sheshe2 Feb 2020 #9

Whoever is ahead Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #10

. Tiggeroshii Feb 2020 #11

Bloomberg over Sanders, but that is an awful choice. Sloumeau Feb 2020 #14

We must defeat Trump and make gains down-ticket wherever possible. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #15

Brutal to look at this poll. Mike 03 Feb 2020 #17

I live in Arizona too. McSally used to be my U.S. Rep. Glad she is no longer that, but got... Sloumeau Feb 2020 #77

Sanders but if there was some doubt about Sanders beating Trump and Bloomberg beating him Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #19

Post removed. rzemanfl Feb 2020 #22

LOL That subject line worried me so much I checked your profile to see if you'd had a post hidden. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #27

It's just a placeholder until someone is rzemanfl Feb 2020 #45

This used to be Democratic "Underground" now it's Democratic Central. Should change name and start rainy Feb 2020 #31

It's still a progressive Democratic forum. The far left doesn't, or shouldn't, have a monopoly on highplainsdem Feb 2020 #33

What is far left today? Roosevelt? He was mainstream once upon a time until money bought our rainy Feb 2020 #36

Sanders isn't FDR. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #39

FDR and Marxist-Leninsts were opponents denem Feb 2020 #96

FDR was not a populist-socialist. OneMoreCupOfCoffee Feb 2020 #90

FDR Is a Mythical Legend MineralMan Feb 2020 #169

Three years of Trump does a lot to focus the mind. RandySF Feb 2020 #48

There's not a millennial in this country that will vote for Bloomberg. Way to quash the young and rainy Feb 2020 #32

So they'll default to Trump? The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #35

give them their candidate and they will show up in droves and out vote Trump voters in rainy Feb 2020 #37

Explain to them how unlikely it is they'll have their student debt (no matter how large it highplainsdem Feb 2020 #41

"Give them their candidate"? Please. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #43

Their candidate will drive away other voters who we need...so no. Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #51

How about we give them the candidate who wins the primary? Squinch Feb 2020 #53

I mean don't let the party cheat rainy Feb 2020 #56

Oh, FFS. Squinch Feb 2020 #57

Allowing them to hold the party, Codeine Feb 2020 #139

Kind of sad, especially after 3 years of trump crud. Hoyt Feb 2020 #40

single most unreliable voting block in the electorate. wyldwolf Feb 2020 #38

Exactly. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #42

I'm 33 showblue22 Feb 2020 #46

If they are not going to vote for the primary winner if it isn't their pet person, then Squinch Feb 2020 #52

Millennials are to fired up about Biden either, but I think they'd prefer him over Trump Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2020 #65

Bullshit. xmas74 Feb 2020 #132

Bloomberg showblue22 Feb 2020 #44

I'm going with Bloomberg. LIKE SOMEONE ELSE IN THIS THREAD SAID .... BS is my last pick. trueblue2007 Feb 2020 #47

+1 Sloumeau Feb 2020 #78

I refuse to accept sarisataka Feb 2020 #49

I hope it won't come down to this, either. But many leftwing Dems think Sanders will be the highplainsdem Feb 2020 #55

We have one job this election. Remove Filthy Donny. Bloomberg can do that. Squinch Feb 2020 #50

wow... myohmy2 Feb 2020 #54

IMO the enthusiasm of the people who do support Sanders makes them underestimate the skepticism highplainsdem Feb 2020 #59

well said. nt spooky3 Feb 2020 #69

The American people will NEVER choose Sanders Zolorp Feb 2020 #67

no matter... myohmy2 Feb 2020 #72

Yes, but the communist ads about Sanders will be TRUE Zolorp Feb 2020 #73

Sanders isn't a Communist TheRealNorth Feb 2020 #138

This is anecdotal awesomerwb1 Feb 2020 #104

I disagree completely Zolorp Feb 2020 #167

Can you imagine the ads against Bloomberg? Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2020 #166

Sanders has been spouting his "progressive" lines for some 40 years The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #74

Mike! Mike! Mike! n/t sprinkleeninow Feb 2020 #62

My answer this week is "Sanders" Algernon Moncrieff Feb 2020 #63

Bloomberg is the obvious winner!! Thekaspervote Feb 2020 #64

LOL, I guess Bernie isn't winning hearts and minds. R B Garr Feb 2020 #82

I think a Bloomberg Warren (or reverse) ticket would be very interesting and spooky3 Feb 2020 #68

I like her best but I think he's most likely to win. Only Squinch Feb 2020 #121

You need geographical balance. xmas74 Feb 2020 #133

True. I'd pick Amy of the two. It's time to get a woman Squinch Feb 2020 #150

Both are good choices. xmas74 Feb 2020 #152

Bernie would be red-baited Stargleamer Feb 2020 #70

And a New York Jewish media mogul Buzz cook Feb 2020 #71

No, any Democratic nominee will be attacked Stargleamer Feb 2020 #75

Bloomberg. MontanaFarmer Feb 2020 #76

We have to win this year, so I voted Bloomberg. herding cats Feb 2020 #79

I honestly don't know enough about Bloomberg to make that decision. musicblind Feb 2020 #80

Sanders would lose the GE. denem Feb 2020 #81

Based on what? OliverQ Feb 2020 #85

The Bernie hate on this sub is pretty astounding. OliverQ Feb 2020 #84

Clearly based on polling, the US demographics are nothing like DU Quixote1818 Feb 2020 #88

Bloomberg isn't running in Iowa. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #89

But earned. Squinch Feb 2020 #120

When anyone can't debate BS' Campaign's Bogus Attacks.. Cha Feb 2020 #127

Sanders. I'm a Biden supporter with Warren as my 2nd choice. phleshdef Feb 2020 #91

Ah Democratic Underground. Kentonio Feb 2020 #92

Yeah! Who would want to vote for a guy who changes his Party designation for convenience? brooklynite Feb 2020 #99

Bloomberg seriously? JonLP24 Feb 2020 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author Progress_Dem Feb 2020 #103

Bloomberg would not beat Trump IMO Progress_Dem Feb 2020 #101

Any self-styled progressive that votes third party or sits at home deserves Trump LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #102

Perhaps Progress_Dem Feb 2020 #105

If they don't vote for the Democratic candidate against Trump, they not really progressive. Period LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #106

Exactly. They're sanctimonious, purist fools. highplainsdem Feb 2020 #108

I disagree but so be it. Progress_Dem Feb 2020 #110

Any action or inaction that helps Trump win is not progressive. It's really that simple. LongtimeAZDem Feb 2020 #117

Of course you do ... nolawarlock Feb 2020 #134

Meaning what? The only real meaning in there is a Squinch Feb 2020 #119

That's about the last thing that happens on this site. nt fleabiscuit Feb 2020 #123

Any progressive Democrats who would vote third party or stay home rather than vote for the nominee highplainsdem Feb 2020 #107

I hope middle of the road Dems feel the same way TheRealNorth Feb 2020 #141

Totally agree. And I don't see Biden being the nom. I think Bernie has this in the bag just zonkers Feb 2020 #113

I think Biden can still win Progress_Dem Feb 2020 #114

I like Joe but to telegraph any type of bipartisanship zonkers Feb 2020 #118

We don't need another billionaire. marble falls Feb 2020 #122

They task us, and we shall have them... nt fleabiscuit Feb 2020 #125

Blech! What a miserable choice Mountain Mule Feb 2020 #112

Bloomberg, but I'll say it again, ecstatic Feb 2020 #128

Bloomberg xmas74 Feb 2020 #131

Wow... budkin Feb 2020 #142

I'm no real fan of Bloomberg, but I'd pick him in a heartbeat Maru Kitteh Feb 2020 #143

I think at that point it's a coin flip HarlanPepper Feb 2020 #144

At least Bernie Sanders was never a Republican... unlike Bloomberg Jack_Warriner Feb 2020 #147

Very telling iamthebandfanman Feb 2020 #149

They dont see it. DaDeacon Feb 2020 #151

People like to talk about some of our candidates as "DINO"s and the like. BlueTsunami2018 Feb 2020 #153

kick highplainsdem Feb 2020 #157

KICK Cha Feb 2020 #158

Bloomberg for sure! n/t Tarheel_Dem Feb 2020 #160

Even liberal DU generally supports a center-lane candidate. Laelth Feb 2020 #162

I chose Bloomberg, but would gladly vote for Sanders. BusyBeingBest Feb 2020 #163

Probably Sanders Turin_C3PO Feb 2020 #164

I'm a Biden supporter peggysue2 Feb 2020 #168

Kick to see if people change their vote Kaleva Feb 2020 #170