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Demsrule86

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77. Tell that to my Gay daughter that he sees fit to accept support from a guy who hates her as
Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:35 PM
Jan 2020

woman and because she is LGBTQ... for the greater good I guess... rah rah...the revolution.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Once every 4 years at least nt doc03 Jan 2020 #1
Fine, but since you responded within 30 seconds of my posting this... Tom Rinaldo Jan 2020 #2
It doesn't matter what you wrote DownriverDem Jan 2020 #35
I am a "True Dem" in that have been registered as a Democrat since 1971 PufPuf23 Jan 2020 #56
True Democrats? How would you define that Downriver? KPN Jan 2020 #105
Would that make him 25% Democrat? LakeArenal Jan 2020 #3
0% Democrat as a representative. He is only a Democrat while campaigning, not in public service. ehrnst Jan 2020 #113
I only support DownriverDem Jan 2020 #18
Oh, we know how you feel. That's been obvious going back to 2015 actually. KPN Jan 2020 #106
There are vines in the rain forest NCProgressive Jan 2020 #4
Times Change True Blue American Jan 2020 #8
The vine is a parasitic plant. chwaliszewski Jan 2020 #9
I prefer True Blue American Jan 2020 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #19
You are free to interpret the way you see fit NCProgressive Jan 2020 #88
Fair enough. chwaliszewski Jan 2020 #100
Good one! nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #120
Sounds about right. Scurrilous Jan 2020 #138
He is a Democrat loveboy Jan 2020 #5
No he isn't DownriverDem Jan 2020 #22
People shift in and out of family / community loveboy Jan 2020 #40
People who shift in and out whenever it suits them, without regards to family members Clash City Rocker Jan 2020 #97
I think that's a bit harsh loveboy Jan 2020 #107
Tell that to Bernie. "Sanders: I don't consider myself a Democrat" ehrnst Jan 2020 #114
I can't stand his open contempt and hostility toward the party and Democrats... NurseJackie Jan 2020 #133
Read your post True Blue American Jan 2020 #6
Because if he did that would splinter and harm the democratic party in the GE. Autumn Jan 2020 #11
How? True Blue American Jan 2020 #13
We have never had an Independent run with the draw that Bernie has. The closet that ever happened Autumn Jan 2020 #17
First of all, who is 'we?' wyldwolf Jan 2020 #21
We,as in True Blue American Jan 2020 #26
Still not following Autumn's line of reasoning wyldwolf Jan 2020 #46
Perot probably is what resulted in Clinton beating Bush the Elder. nt PufPuf23 Jan 2020 #59
that's a thoroughly debunked political myth wyldwolf Jan 2020 #64
I don't buy that and one can find arguments for the opposite. PufPuf23 Jan 2020 #68
you don't buy actual vote and electoral college totals? wyldwolf Jan 2020 #71
It is not worth the bother of my energy. nt PufPuf23 Jan 2020 #73
cop out. nt wyldwolf Jan 2020 #75
He would harm the party anyway DownriverDem Jan 2020 #23
Yes, I imagine the dems cringe every time he caucuses with them. Autumn Jan 2020 #29
It's clear DownriverDem Jan 2020 #38
So your saying Sanders gives a damn about the Democratic Party... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #43
Yes he does. But more than that he cares about people and their needs. nt Autumn Jan 2020 #45
Tell that to my Gay daughter that he sees fit to accept support from a guy who hates her as Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #77
My niece is transgender. She supports Bernie even after Rogan. She knows he's nothing more Autumn Jan 2020 #102
Well that is your opinion...I see no evidence of any caring ...the revolution... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #91
Yes it is my opinion. I never said otherwise. Just like you offer your opinion with no evidence. Autumn Jan 2020 #98
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #50
Everyone knows this, but under Bernie Bashing Rule#1, he must be ridiculed despite the consequences! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #95
He wouldn't get Dem party apparatus support nor media attention... brush Jan 2020 #110
I don't think he would need it. He's no longer some unknown Senator from Vermont. As for Autumn Jan 2020 #111
And as for his socialist baggage? Stop kidding yourself. Repugs... brush Jan 2020 #112
Bernie said he does it because of the earned media and the $$ a major party provides. ehrnst Jan 2020 #119
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #16
That's been my question for a while. I guess they aren't curious enough to know WHY the Autumn Jan 2020 #20
There is the neoliberal divide within the Democratic Party and the party PufPuf23 Jan 2020 #61
Why DownriverDem Jan 2020 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #28
I laugh that shit off. I know what got Trump in office. Autumn Jan 2020 #31
Sanders supporters who voted for Jill Stein and Trump? sweetloukillbot Jan 2020 #36
Wait? Are you telling me Russia wasn't the culprit? You know that Stein or some other third party Autumn Jan 2020 #41
letting republican made machines count the votes is what put trump in office questionseverything Jan 2020 #121
It so pisses me off they have allowed nothing to be done to insure our elections. They can't win in Autumn Jan 2020 #122
peops are working on it..it just doesnt get much attention from the press or here at du questionseverything Jan 2020 #124
Tired of the threats...I think Sanders has cooked his own goose with his campaigns behavior and now Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #49
My problem is not with the Democratic Party...I love this party and what we stand for...I will not Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #52
+1,000,000. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #62
Thank you. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #70
Re-reading the thread just now, I almost hit +1,000,000 again... The Valley Below Jan 2020 #137
I think you ask a good question. marble falls Jan 2020 #25
Because Bernie knows that would guaran-damn-tee President Pig Vomit 4 more years!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #99
The phenomenon you describe isn't a good thing genxlib Jan 2020 #7
Good points. True Blue American Jan 2020 #10
Michigan DownriverDem Jan 2020 #27
I think you interpreted the opposite of what I meant genxlib Jan 2020 #60
You can't spend a lifetime trashing the church then walk in and demand to be the minister. wyldwolf Jan 2020 #12
Better description True Blue American Jan 2020 #14
Well said DownriverDem Jan 2020 #30
Bernie would never do that. He's Jewish. Autumn Jan 2020 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author RandiFan1290 Jan 2020 #39
And of course, zentrum Jan 2020 #34
that's beside the point wyldwolf Jan 2020 #42
+1 dalton99a Jan 2020 #47
Get back to me when the organization votes down/votes out/blocks Bernie. Till then it's a few Autumn Jan 2020 #51
Consider yourself "gotten back to" wyldwolf Jan 2020 #58
Those are members, aka voters . The organization has not voted down/voted out/blocked Bernie. Autumn Jan 2020 #63
Hmm. ok. wyldwolf Jan 2020 #69
In my view, Nancy Pelosi, Madame Speaker, IS the leader of the Democratic party. I don't Autumn Jan 2020 #76
Your view is flawed. Being that the word we've both been using is "organization..." wyldwolf Jan 2020 #82
Correction. You used the word organization as for the rest I'm not interested in it. Have a fun day Autumn Jan 2020 #84
Post #51 and #63. You used "organization." wyldwolf Jan 2020 #85
Many say the Democratic party zentrum Jan 2020 #134
Many people would be wrong wyldwolf Jan 2020 #135
Wait, but what did Jesus do? PufPuf23 Jan 2020 #66
Build tables and chairs? Maybe? wyldwolf Jan 2020 #74
I support candidates zentrum Jan 2020 #32
I feel the same Tom Rinaldo Jan 2020 #55
Just because someone wears a Democratic label mountain grammy Jan 2020 #37
Something for Nothing Horizens Jan 2020 #44
Dude must have quite a stack MontanaMama Jan 2020 #57
Thoughtful integration of global and historical facts. The sands are clearly shifting. JudyM Jan 2020 #53
There's a lot to the Bernie/Trump analogy BeyondGeography Jan 2020 #54
You are free, obviously, to extend comparisons to realms that were not the focus of my OP Tom Rinaldo Jan 2020 #65
You don't have to, it would only be redundant anyway BeyondGeography Jan 2020 #67
+1000 Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #72
That "political norms in the 21st century have become more unstable" is undeniably true. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #78
Well said... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #80
I agree with you but only to a point Tom Rinaldo Jan 2020 #86
I don't agree that the Vietnam war protests were a populist movement. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #87
I think we simply disagree Tom Rinaldo Jan 2020 #89
I think we do agree. Populism is the rage directed against whatever segment of a society The Valley Below Jan 2020 #90
Respectfully I do not think that we agree Tom Rinaldo Jan 2020 #93
The anti-apartheid movement in SA had two wings. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #96
Those whose populist leadership you support you call liberals Tom Rinaldo Jan 2020 #116
No. I call the liberals "liberals" and the populists "populists." The Valley Below Jan 2020 #117
Bernie seems to think of himself as the Martin Luther of liberal politics. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #79
Martin Luther also called for Jews to be burned out of their homes The Valley Below Jan 2020 #92
Luther was a lot of things, including - like many of his time - an anti-Semite. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #101
Not trying to detract from your point, The Valley Below Jan 2020 #104
He's not. RandySF Jan 2020 #81
I've Always Wondered Why He Didn't Stick to His Principles Me. Jan 2020 #83
True,Bernie's a Democrat's Democrat cuz he votes w/ fellow Democrats more than the average Democrat! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #94
If Bernie stick to his principals he'd be running as a Trotskyite tirebiter Jan 2020 #103
For many Sanders is Democrat in all but name booley Jan 2020 #108
I'm not one of those who considers Sanders a Democrat in all but name. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #118
so you oppose healthcare for everyone? questionseverything Jan 2020 #123
That's what called a stalking horse issue. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #125
i have no idea what that means questionseverything Jan 2020 #127
I don't stand with his democratic socialist ideology or his populism. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #128
socialism is when we all get together to pay for something we can't pay for by ourselves questionseverything Jan 2020 #129
LOL. Social Security is NOT an example of socialism. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #130
agree to disagree questionseverything Jan 2020 #131
I heard this from Bernie: "I don't consider myself a Democrat." ehrnst Jan 2020 #109
By his own words. sheshe2 Jan 2020 #126
K & R LiberalLovinLug Jan 2020 #115
May be better than a reactionary. delisen Jan 2020 #136
I have questions about sanders judgment Gothmog Jan 2020 #132
Party? Elizabeth Warren used to be a Republican Duppers Jan 2020 #139
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