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TwilightZone

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180. Conversely, Clinton has as much right to speak her mind as anyone.
Wed Jan 22, 2020, 10:26 PM
Jan 2020

Including the author.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Eye roll Evergreen Emerald Jan 2020 #1
No one is stopping her from speaking her truth. nt Autumn Jan 2020 #5
No, just criticizing her when she does Retrograde Jan 2020 #15
As always... (nt) ehrnst Jan 2020 #19
If Bernie were to say he didn't like her the shit would hit the fan. And you know it. Autumn Jan 2020 #35
Sanders has had plenty to say about Clinton after the 2020 general...we can't discuss the Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #63
Most people like her, though. Well, almost EVERYONE who has met her that is. Eliot Rosewater Jan 2020 #102
I love Hillary and was fortunate enough to meet her once. She would have been a great Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #114
I volunteered at several rallies in FL in 2016 mcar Jan 2020 #172
I volunteered in Ohio. My small city went for her...wish all of Ohio had. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #174
There is also still animosity Bev54 Jan 2020 #129
Bernie did not build the Democratic Party;he just wants to plunder what others have built. delisen Jan 2020 #137
If Benie said 1/10000 of what she said Locrian Jan 2020 #76
It's not astounding. It's how it is. Been that way a while and it won't change. Autumn Jan 2020 #103
I could post all the stuff Sanders said since the 2016 General but I won't...let's just say Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #115
Yes indeed!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #149
This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Jan 2020 #101
It's what he didn't say when "endorsing" her on the campaign trail that really ehrnst Jan 2020 #193
She's been in the public eye for 40 years, she did an interview, she was asked a question... George II Jan 2020 #2
She can say whatever she wants. No one is stopping her. Autumn Jan 2020 #37
Well then expect to hear more: the documentary on HRC's life is premiering lapucelle Jan 2020 #87
Maybe she's not a fan of either. Well enjoy watching it when it comes out. I think I'll pass. Autumn Jan 2020 #89
It was the entire Editorial Board of the NYT that signed off on the dismal assessment of BS, lapucelle Jan 2020 #106
I don't have a clue what editorial bout Bernie you are even talking about. This one under discussion Autumn Jan 2020 #108
Yet you posted an OP all but telling her to shut up. George II Jan 2020 #136
True... and then, like anyone else, she should take responsibility for what she says. InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #151
Having been in the arena for 40 years, she knows how to deflect a question karynnj Jan 2020 #186
She was asked a question? notinkansas Feb 2020 #202
Hillary still doesn't understand that this sort of comment DURHAM D Jan 2020 #3
Bingo! So here come the people with those appendages, MineralMan Jan 2020 #34
And they called her 'Mrs Clinton'...condescending and dismissive. Typical for how women are Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #69
Well, they didn't like her before, and they still don't. MineralMan Jan 2020 #72
They endorsed her over Obama in the 2008 primary karynnj Jan 2020 #91
How quickly they forget!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #159
And someone here said Eliot Rosewater Jan 2020 #104
Yes, Sanders had plenty to say after 2016 and when this primary began, I don't recall him being Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #116
"They" didn't call her anything. A young black woman called her Mrs. Clinton. A young black woman Autumn Jan 2020 #79
I don't give two fucks who she is...if she is writing for the New York times, she should understand Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #117
Here you go you can teach her what she is and isn't allowed to say. Autumn Jan 2020 #156
She can say and did say what she wants to ...but it doesn't mean what she did was right...you can Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #165
The horror of being respctful and calling Hillary Clinton, former first Lady and married to Autumn Jan 2020 #167
Mrs. Clinton and she trashed Clinton...it was condescending and sickening. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #176
Well you got to do what your convictions demand. nt Autumn Jan 2020 #179
I agree with that. I still think she shouldn't be writing this sort of thing. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #182
THIS!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #152
I think it is the NYT stylebook - they printed a recent John Kerry oped and in the note at the end karynnj Jan 2020 #88
She was a Senator and so was Kerry. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #118
The NYT is in the right here... respect!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #154
Isn't that just NYT's style? democrattotheend Jan 2020 #195
I've seen at least two OPs today mcar Jan 2020 #177
Biases and prejudices are usually unconscious. MineralMan Jan 2020 #192
Hillary unleashed! I love her. Keep on telling the truth Hillary. comradebillyboy Jan 2020 #55
It'd be good for Sanders if she did that. JudyM Jan 2020 #64
+1 Go Vols Jan 2020 #85
Clinton is smart and tough and has said se will not stop delisen Jan 2020 #146
There aren't enough FU's I can give to the NYTs. nt jrthin Jan 2020 #4
Sanders is alienating very wing of the Democratic Party by embracing the dirty-trickster tactics The Valley Below Jan 2020 #6
Or maybe Sanders was just giving back what they have been getting? Quixote1818 Jan 2020 #196
Gaslighting. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #197
Does BS & His Team Know That? Me. Jan 2020 #7
His comment was "on a good day my wife likes me" so yeah, he seems to know how to respond decently. Autumn Jan 2020 #8
So Yeah, I'll Wait UNtil His Surrogates Do His Talking Me. Jan 2020 #9
I'm sure you will. Autumn Jan 2020 #10
It was a fucking dismissive comment...condescending...and another indication that as a woman, Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #11
Should he have said thank you Hillary? Autumn Jan 2020 #14
You should have said 'I disagree but I respect your right to have a different opinion'. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #17
I should say " 'I disagree but I respect your right to have a different opinion'." Autumn Jan 2020 #21
That would be a start. ehrnst Jan 2020 #26
He didn't give an interview trashing her, he owes her nothing and certainly not an apology. One and Autumn Jan 2020 #32
It's not one specific interview I'm talking about. ehrnst Jan 2020 #45
At least do not hold your breath. marble falls Jan 2020 #43
Oh, I won't. (nt) ehrnst Jan 2020 #57
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Me. Jan 2020 #28
Oh good lord. No it wasn't. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #30
I agree with you. I thought it was a self-deprecating bit of humor intended to deescalate, which JudyM Jan 2020 #58
Exactly Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #68
But not enough Democratic for Sanders to win the nomination...so he is going scorched earth Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #16
He seems to be rising in the polls. Autumn Jan 2020 #18
What poll? It seems he is losing to me...he is not even expected to win Iowa.. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #71
But if someone else makes a similar factual comment about him.... ehrnst Jan 2020 #22
I wonder how many good days he's had recently. George II Jan 2020 #38
Everyday seems to be good for him. Those of us who follow him see that. Autumn Jan 2020 #40
Not Jane? sheshe2 Jan 2020 #134
He was misrepresenting what she said by answering in that way. delisen Jan 2020 #140
We don't count apparently!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #155
I stand with HRC and the Democratic Party. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #12
+1 nt Skidmore Jan 2020 #13
And unite behind BS Lordquinton Jan 2020 #92
He won't win and I actively oppose his candidacy for our nomination. The Valley Below Jan 2020 #93
DAMN RIGHT!! Those who proclaim PUMA should be called out!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #158
The New York time even disparages women in their salutation...Mrs.Clinton...how Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #20
Hillary trashes Bernie and he deserves it. Someone calls her Mrs. Clinton and they are trash? Autumn Jan 2020 #25
But she didn't call him Mr or Mrs Sanders. marble falls Jan 2020 #41
Well. That just makes a world of difference. Autumn Jan 2020 #44
And to think I was worried you wouldn't get the joke. marble falls Jan 2020 #47
Why on earth would she call him Mrs. Sanders? Mariana Jan 2020 #99
Reread the article, no where does it quote Hilliary Clinton referring to Bernie Sanders ... marble falls Jan 2020 #109
Yes, I am tired of women being treated this way...perhaps Mr. Sanders might feel differently...hehe Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #61
I'll give you that some people stick up for women here. Well some women anyway. nt Autumn Jan 2020 #65
If you are talking about Warren or Klobachar, I like them both...how do you feel about Tusi? Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #66
Same here. still_one Jan 2020 #52
It is not Mrs. Clinton but Secretary or Sen...the Times can fuck of today and twice on Sunday. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #62
The sexism is alive and well today still_one Jan 2020 #73
Yes it is...everyday is anti-woman day it seems. And I would like to apologize for saying Warren Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #121
+++. I think the question is can a candidate who is too far to the left or right win a general still_one Jan 2020 #138
I think that is true and a fair question...and it holds true for both men and women. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #178
Men keep their titles??? From just a few weeks ago - look how they refer to John Kerry karynnj Jan 2020 #95
Let's remember what the NYT did to Jill Abramson nt delisen Jan 2020 #148
Yep, she was treated unfairly. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #166
It's gotta be tough to be on the sidelines after so many years being in the game. jalan48 Jan 2020 #23
Yeah it seems to be. Oh well, either move on or stew about it. The ones who should be trashed by Autumn Jan 2020 #29
Yep, I think it would be great if she was appointed to an ambassador position if wewin the election. jalan48 Jan 2020 #33
Clinton is very much in the game. delisen Jan 2020 #50
HRC is at the Sundance Film Festival this week for the premier of the documentary about her life. lapucelle Jan 2020 #105
And yet, here's Bernie right in the middle of a race for the Presidency. jalan48 Jan 2020 #113
Why is he running again? treestar Jan 2020 #120
He's very popular with the voters. jalan48 Jan 2020 #122
Hillary was more popular with the voters, having beaten him treestar Jan 2020 #125
I think some are envious of his popularity. jalan48 Jan 2020 #128
and many of us don't want Jill Stein operatives in the White House delisen Jan 2020 #143
LOL jalan48 Jan 2020 #144
What popularity! treestar Jan 2020 #191
Actually that seems the norm - it was ok for HRC to run after losing the primary in 2008 karynnj Jan 2020 #189
Still in the middle of trying to get elected for the chance to run for president, lapucelle Jan 2020 #131
You can't keep a good man down. jalan48 Jan 2020 #132
There plenty of good men and woman down lapucelle Jan 2020 #135
No six figure speaking fees for Bernie when he leaves office. jalan48 Jan 2020 #141
BS made his first million writing a book about losing an election. lapucelle Jan 2020 #153
Well, our politicians deserve half a million dollars for a few hours speaking. I mean, they have jalan48 Jan 2020 #157
Who are the anonymous donors depositing six figure sums with Our Revolution? lapucelle Jan 2020 #163
What politician has made a "half a million dollars for a few hours speaking"? I don't know any. George II Jan 2020 #190
He sells those books on Amazon and Walmart. Go figure. George II Jan 2020 #187
... mcar Jan 2020 #181
Take another bow for the reminder about six figure sums. lapucelle Jan 2020 #185
What does that have to do with this discussion? George II Jan 2020 #188
Yet more evidence that the "corporate media" is out to get Bernie... ehrnst Jan 2020 #24
so shes to sit down and shut up? hmmmmmm..... samnsara Jan 2020 #27
"Mrs. Clinton." yardwork Jan 2020 #31
That is exactly what I say...condescending bullshit from the Times. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #67
Yeah, that bothered me too. TDale313 Jan 2020 #81
If you're a liberal that loves Sanders tirebiter Jan 2020 #36
You do know this is a primary season, not the general election, right? Trump ain't in it. marble falls Jan 2020 #39
I think we all know this is the primary season, that's why Bernie, among some others is Autumn Jan 2020 #42
Bernie throws shade, Kamala Harris threw shade, Cory Booker threw shade, you and I ... marble falls Jan 2020 #46
As far as I'm concerned? peggysue2 Jan 2020 #48
Exactly, and it is no surprise that the typical Hillary haters are out in force. still_one Jan 2020 #51
H Clinton is not a distraction. H. Clinton is the show. Pelosi is the show. delisen Jan 2020 #49
Last time I checked it was called free speech. flying_wahini Jan 2020 #53
Exactly. Mariana Jan 2020 #83
Hillary isn't even in the race... Blue_Tires Jan 2020 #54
No shit? I wasn't aware. Bernie is however in the race on the Democratic ticket. Autumn Jan 2020 #56
So why is your entire campaign talking about HRC instead of, you know, impeachment? Blue_Tires Jan 2020 #74
Why are we talking about her? Hillary herself made it news. Autumn Jan 2020 #75
And you're the ones keeping it in the news... Blue_Tires Jan 2020 #98
Hahahahahahahaha ismnotwasm Jan 2020 #59
Hillary Clinton is correct to worry about the effect of sanders' lies and negative attacks Gothmog Jan 2020 #60
She realizes that beating Trump is the ultimate goal... SidDithers Jan 2020 #70
That's *Secretary* Clinton. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2020 #77
Mr. Sanders campaigned vigorously for Mrs. Clinton. lapfog_1 Jan 2020 #78
The proper form of address is "Senator" or "Secretary" StarfishSaver Jan 2020 #80
You go right on and take a young black woman to task for failing to use one of the many Autumn Jan 2020 #84
I will indeed call ANYONE I like to task for being disrespectful StarfishSaver Jan 2020 #97
Be sure and post it for us. As as elder POC I look forward to seeing it. nt Autumn Jan 2020 #100
Secretary Clinton has a reason to say what she did samnsara Jan 2020 #82
Thanks elleng Jan 2020 #86
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Jan 2020 #90
I think she got nervous with his rise in the polls, she's entitled to her opinion. I don't think it Autumn Jan 2020 #94
FB? sheshe2 Jan 2020 #142
If she really wanted to return the favor, she would call him unqualified. MrsCoffee Jan 2020 #96
Seems some folks always got time to scapegoat Hillary Clinton jcgoldie Jan 2020 #107
I agree scapegoat works real well here. But in truth it's rarely Clinton that is being scapegoated. Autumn Jan 2020 #110
All this complaining indicates a fear that Hillary is influential treestar Jan 2020 #111
Not really. Autumn Jan 2020 #112
Then what is the point of the article? treestar Jan 2020 #119
Outrage I think that someone would dare say they don't like Sen. Sanders or should I say Mr. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #123
It's an opinion piece on what a famous person had to say. Newspapers often do those. nt Autumn Jan 2020 #124
That person wants Hillary to stop talking treestar Jan 2020 #126
It's clear this young black woman is politely asking Clinton to stay out of the primary. Autumn Jan 2020 #130
Hmmm sheshe2 Jan 2020 #145
Pease do not speak H. Clinton. You are so powerful people might listen to you. delisen Jan 2020 #160
Conversely, Clinton has as much right to speak her mind as anyone. TwilightZone Jan 2020 #180
Why is it okay for sanders supporters to boo John Lewis and Michele Obama Gothmog Feb 2020 #207
When someone responds to an old post of mine I suspect their motives Goth. There are more current Autumn Feb 2020 #208
all i know is, she did not beat the mother fucker in the white house. so, why muddy shit? we NEED to pansypoo53219 Jan 2020 #127
I f we need to win, then we need to confront Putin and Facebook as well delisen Jan 2020 #164
he's kicked her plenty. she can't kick back? EveHammond13 Jan 2020 #133
Perhaps Hillary anticipates a brokered convention and if that happens... spin Jan 2020 #139
... InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #147
I thought Trump was the enemy? MuseRider Jan 2020 #150
Yes. She states in the article that Trump is the opponent we need to fight against. Autumn Jan 2020 #162
many ppl have this whole cult of personality thing regarding politicians. i dont get it. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #161
Me either Bradshaw3 Jan 2020 #168
You mean Secretary Clinton, right? mcar Jan 2020 #169
Oh, and this is a lie, BTW mcar Jan 2020 #170
Here you go. Let her know about the "errors" you found, I'm sure she will correct them. Autumn Jan 2020 #171
I will mcar Jan 2020 #173
Gay needs to either read WaPo or to pay attention to the corrections in the paper she works for. lapucelle Jan 2020 #183
Yeah, she didn't do her research mcar Jan 2020 #184
regrets enid602 Jan 2020 #175
I don't blame her for being bitter democrattotheend Jan 2020 #194
This is sad but to be expected by groups that boo John Lewis Gothmog Jan 2020 #198
Took a while huh? Autumn Jan 2020 #199
This is so very sad Gothmog Jan 2020 #200
Way to lose votes Gothmog Feb 2020 #205
Bingo Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #203
Bern, become a Democratic Senator, and I might actually consider you DonaldsRump Feb 2020 #201
Exactly Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #204
Good luck on getting support from Clinton supporters Gothmog Feb 2020 #206
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