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Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: The Liberal case against Bernie [View all]Gothmog
(145,130 posts)79. The GOP has a great oppo file on sanders
The GOP has a great oppo file on sanders https://www.newsweek.com/myths-cost-democrats-presidential-election-521044
So what would have happened when Sanders hit a real opponent, someone who did not care about alienating the young college voters in his base? I have seen the opposition book assembled by Republicans for Sanders, and it was brutal. The Republicans would have torn him apart. And while Sanders supporters might delude themselves into believing that they could have defended him against all of this, there is a name for politicians who play defense all the time: losers.
Here are a few tastes of what was in store for Sanders, straight out of the Republican playbook: He thinks rape is A-OK. In 1972, when he was 31, Sanders wrote a fictitious essay in which he described a woman enjoying being raped by three men. Yes, there is an explanation for ita long, complicated one, just like the one that would make clear why the Clinton emails story was nonsense. And we all know how well that worked out.
Then theres the fact that Sanders was on unemployment until his mid-30s, and that he stole electricity from a neighbor after failing to pay his bills, and that he co-sponsored a bill to ship Vermonts nuclear waste to a poor Hispanic community in Texas, where it could be dumped. You can just see the words environmental racist on Republican billboards. And if you cant, I already did. They were in the Republican opposition research book as a proposal on how to frame the nuclear waste issue.
Also on the list: Sanders violated campaign finance laws, criticized Clinton for supporting the 1994 crime bill that he voted for, and he voted against the Amber Alert system. His pitch for universal health care would have been used against him too, since it was tried in his home state of Vermont and collapsed due to excessive costs. Worst of all, the Republicans also had video of Sanders at a 1985 rally thrown by the leftist Sandinista government in Nicaragua where half a million people chanted, Here, there, everywhere/the Yankee will die, while President Daniel Ortega condemned state terrorism by America. Sanders said, on camera, supporting the Sandinistas was patriotic.
The Republicans had at least four other damning Sanders videos (I dont know what they showed), and the opposition research folder was almost 2-feet thick. (The section calling him a communist with connections to Castro alone would have cost him Florida.) In other words, the belief that Sanders would have walked into the White House based on polls taken before anyone really attacked him is a delusion built on a scaffolding of political ignorance.
Here are a few tastes of what was in store for Sanders, straight out of the Republican playbook: He thinks rape is A-OK. In 1972, when he was 31, Sanders wrote a fictitious essay in which he described a woman enjoying being raped by three men. Yes, there is an explanation for ita long, complicated one, just like the one that would make clear why the Clinton emails story was nonsense. And we all know how well that worked out.
Then theres the fact that Sanders was on unemployment until his mid-30s, and that he stole electricity from a neighbor after failing to pay his bills, and that he co-sponsored a bill to ship Vermonts nuclear waste to a poor Hispanic community in Texas, where it could be dumped. You can just see the words environmental racist on Republican billboards. And if you cant, I already did. They were in the Republican opposition research book as a proposal on how to frame the nuclear waste issue.
Also on the list: Sanders violated campaign finance laws, criticized Clinton for supporting the 1994 crime bill that he voted for, and he voted against the Amber Alert system. His pitch for universal health care would have been used against him too, since it was tried in his home state of Vermont and collapsed due to excessive costs. Worst of all, the Republicans also had video of Sanders at a 1985 rally thrown by the leftist Sandinista government in Nicaragua where half a million people chanted, Here, there, everywhere/the Yankee will die, while President Daniel Ortega condemned state terrorism by America. Sanders said, on camera, supporting the Sandinistas was patriotic.
The Republicans had at least four other damning Sanders videos (I dont know what they showed), and the opposition research folder was almost 2-feet thick. (The section calling him a communist with connections to Castro alone would have cost him Florida.) In other words, the belief that Sanders would have walked into the White House based on polls taken before anyone really attacked him is a delusion built on a scaffolding of political ignorance.
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I'm sorry...converting 88% of your base to vote for someone else is pretty damn good...
TCJ70
Apr 2019
#112
I'm not saying he isn't liberal but the title claims a liberal case or argument
aikoaiko
Mar 2019
#8
He alluded, implied, and suggested that she was "corrupt" while at the same time
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#31
I saw a ton of negativity at the Texas state convention and the national convention
Gothmog
Apr 2019
#100
The negatives of the delivery and the constant harangue over the Democratic Party
peggysue2
Apr 2019
#97
And I'm sure it didn't help that Bernie didn't' do any campaigning for Hillary in July, or August,
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#32
The problem with anecdotal evidence is that it waries widely, representing all view points
Tom Rinaldo
Mar 2019
#48
It's a self-imposed hell. The good news is the door to that hell is open. You can leave at any time.
progressoid
Mar 2019
#57
"Google searches about WikiLeaks were particularly high in swing areas with large numbers
betsuni
Mar 2019
#64
Like every woman has learned - if you say something among men, it will be ignored
ehrnst
Mar 2019
#50
From the smallest church committee school board meetings to the national platform,
efhmc
Mar 2019
#66
According to some of you, Bernie just running is some terrible attack on the party
Kentonio
Mar 2019
#41
You're right, it is a pointless argument ... you see criticism of BS as bashing
SFnomad
Mar 2019
#85
You might want to take note ... you replied to my post. I didn't engage with you
SFnomad
Apr 2019
#89
This appears to be more of a case of "if the shoe fits," than people actually "insulting."
ehrnst
Mar 2019
#53
Honestly, I think everything will calm down significantly once Bernie bows out.
ecstatic
Apr 2019
#117