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In reply to the discussion: Sanders just said his MFA ends all premiums. I'm on Medicare. I pay a monthly premium. [View all]forthemiddle
(1,373 posts)145. Wrong
Traditional Medicare is administered through private companies called carriers, or MACS.
https://www.cms.gov/Medicare/Medicare-Contracting/Medicare-Administrative-Contractors/What-is-a-MAC#WhatIsAMac.
Your doctor does not send any claims to the Government, instead they send them to the individual MACs that then process the claims, and either pay, or deny that claim.
For example Wisconsin uses WPS, other states use Blue Cross Blue Shield.
This is one reason Medicare can boast such a low amount spent on administration compared to traditional insurance companies, they have contracted out a huge part of the administrative duties.
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Sanders just said his MFA ends all premiums. I'm on Medicare. I pay a monthly premium. [View all]
stopbush
Jan 2020
OP
Medicare for all has no copays and no deductibles. You do not need a supplemental policy. There
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#114
Just a guess, but the 55 mentions of TAX will not endear most readers of the plan. nt
fleabiscuit
Jan 2020
#170
That doesn't begin to explain how they could fund a completely different program
pnwmom
Jan 2020
#176
That's why MFA is better than medicare. And Better than nothign was referring to dental and vision.
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#132
Medicare for All doesn't exist. It won't exist unless it gets approved by Congress.
yardwork
Jan 2020
#141
Yep. This sounds about right. When we had Obamacare we got a subsidy which made our monthly
underthematrix
Jan 2020
#120
Bernie's MFA Bill would change much of how Medicare works and what it covers.
HerbChestnut
Jan 2020
#2
I can just see the voter in Mississippi and Alabama praising Jesus and voting for a democratic plan.
dhol82
Jan 2020
#19
Part of living in a representative democracy is that not everyone will agree with you.
HerbChestnut
Jan 2020
#22
Right just vote for Bernie and everything else will fall into place. I should buy stock in rose
UniteFightBack
Jan 2020
#102
Europe "gets away with it" by levying heavy taxes on their citizens to pay for healthcare.
stopbush
Jan 2020
#124
I wonder how many people appreciate everything Europeans get for their taxes
ArcticFox
Jan 2020
#146
No need to call Mike when his healthcare plan is outlined at his campaign website.
stopbush
Jan 2020
#173
Unfortunately he doesn't consider how Medicare is administered today, which includes...
George II
Jan 2020
#40
You won't need supplements. I'm all for getting the insurance company out of my healthcare, and now
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#93
you pay it in taxes. There will be no premiums, including people who are currently on Medicare and
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#4
Do you really think that the republican members of Congress will just roll over and beg for this?
dhol82
Jan 2020
#11
No, but the people will want it and he will go to every state if need be to tell them what they can
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#16
Well I know people are sick of going bankrupt or dying because they can't get healthcare. Sure you
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#20
No. Clearly people vote against their own self interests time and time again and this will be no
UniteFightBack
Jan 2020
#103
The current Medicare tax is 1.45% for the employee and 1.45% for the employer.
stopbush
Jan 2020
#32
There is an income level for people to start paying. Lower income does not pay anything. This is
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#48
It is a tax, not a premium. Sorry, it should be keeps the costs per person low.
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#79
All patient's will be public, so unless they don't want to work anymore, they have no choice.
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#190
I don't know too may patient's who would love to pay out of pocket for their healthcare.
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#197
I have been in the healthcare field for 40 years. Doctor's don't like to retire.
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#199
Medicare for all could make it a lot easier for them, if they don't feel like working
pnwmom
Jan 2020
#203
"Fall for it"? It's not current Medicare... it's an *improved* version of Medicare.
thesquanderer
Jan 2020
#26
No it's not. It has little in common with the current Medicare. Actually probably just the "name".
George II
Jan 2020
#42
What it has in common is that it is a government run single payer system.
thesquanderer
Jan 2020
#56
But, without considering how Medicare is administered, Sanders is proposing....
George II
Jan 2020
#57
OMG keeping costs down, are you serious. The way they keep costs down is by denying coverage.
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#80
He'll end $1000 or so in premiums, but assess $2000 in taxes. Win-lose for Americans.
George II
Jan 2020
#12
I was generalizing. My point is we have no details, and the cost is probably more than we'll "save".
George II
Jan 2020
#29
That's trickle down, which we know doesn't work. Employers will pocket the difference, if any.
George II
Jan 2020
#110
Where in the world did you find that hogwash or did you concoct it on your own?
LonePirate
Jan 2020
#163
Bernie's plan (and really Elizabeth's) is really more of a "Medicaid" for all
dflprincess
Jan 2020
#21
We will pay SOMETHING. That lack of detail is what bothers me about Sen. Sanders,
Blue_true
Jan 2020
#41
NOTHING is FREE. And when we start bandying about 'free this and free that' WE LOSE. nt
UniteFightBack
Jan 2020
#104
So am I and it is the best insurance I have ever had, but I am sure willing to have support everyone
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#52
If you believe him, he will eliminate Medicare premiums, make copays zero, free dental, and
Hoyt
Jan 2020
#35
And his plan covers 80 % he said it...by my math that is a 20% deductible that has no out of
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#53
No he did not. There is no deductible, no coinsurance, and a max of $200 for prescription drugs.
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#67
Well we seem to have no problem funding military, wars and tax breaks for the rich, so I guess
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#64
How about this: what if that pie in the sky actually means that you and the average American
stopbush
Jan 2020
#122
How do so many Dems and DUers not understand single payer health care systems like MFA?
LonePirate
Jan 2020
#61
There are no limits. You get the care you need just like in other countries. If people can get
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#94
I am sure there are things that it won't cover, I would think implants would be listed as cosmetic.
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#99
I was suprised too. In fact, I thought may be was another patient's test, because I have never had
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#150
You realize don't you that Medicare now is not the Medicare For All bill of Sanders.
Nanjeanne
Jan 2020
#111
I don't think they do. I don't think people currently on Medicare realize that they most likely
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#115
No I do not mean Medicaid. Medicare for all is no premiums, no deductibles and $200 out of pocket
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#127
I don't know what they are and I don't care what they are there. Here they will be 6.5%
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#134
Currently, 100% of workers pay into Medicare thru a weekly payroll deduction of 1.45%.
stopbush
Jan 2020
#119
Again, Sanders does not provide SPECIFICS on where the funding comes from for his program.
stopbush
Jan 2020
#138
Show me a better plan that covers EVERYONE and I'm all for it. I don't see one out there.
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#143
I never realized so many people liked the current US health care system until I read the MFA threads
LonePirate
Jan 2020
#168
I know, I really don't get it. People saying this is going to make Medicare and healthcare worse.
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#171
MFA was deliberately named that because people like and are familiar with Medicare
MichMan
Jan 2020
#183
Somebody needs to tell some of these people how much the taxes are in Canada, or the Netherlands.
redstatebluegirl
Jan 2020
#188