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In reply to the discussion: Sanders just said his MFA ends all premiums. I'm on Medicare. I pay a monthly premium. [View all]Blue_true
(31,261 posts)60. There is no dollars and cents breakout like Sen. Warren did.
A lot of promises and visions of how things will be is not a plan, voters need to know the costs and Sen. Sanders is steadfastly avoiding laying those costs out for review.
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Sanders just said his MFA ends all premiums. I'm on Medicare. I pay a monthly premium. [View all]
stopbush
Jan 2020
OP
Medicare for all has no copays and no deductibles. You do not need a supplemental policy. There
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#114
Just a guess, but the 55 mentions of TAX will not endear most readers of the plan. nt
fleabiscuit
Jan 2020
#170
That doesn't begin to explain how they could fund a completely different program
pnwmom
Jan 2020
#176
That's why MFA is better than medicare. And Better than nothign was referring to dental and vision.
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#132
Medicare for All doesn't exist. It won't exist unless it gets approved by Congress.
yardwork
Jan 2020
#141
Yep. This sounds about right. When we had Obamacare we got a subsidy which made our monthly
underthematrix
Jan 2020
#120
Bernie's MFA Bill would change much of how Medicare works and what it covers.
HerbChestnut
Jan 2020
#2
I can just see the voter in Mississippi and Alabama praising Jesus and voting for a democratic plan.
dhol82
Jan 2020
#19
Part of living in a representative democracy is that not everyone will agree with you.
HerbChestnut
Jan 2020
#22
Right just vote for Bernie and everything else will fall into place. I should buy stock in rose
UniteFightBack
Jan 2020
#102
Europe "gets away with it" by levying heavy taxes on their citizens to pay for healthcare.
stopbush
Jan 2020
#124
I wonder how many people appreciate everything Europeans get for their taxes
ArcticFox
Jan 2020
#146
No need to call Mike when his healthcare plan is outlined at his campaign website.
stopbush
Jan 2020
#173
Unfortunately he doesn't consider how Medicare is administered today, which includes...
George II
Jan 2020
#40
You won't need supplements. I'm all for getting the insurance company out of my healthcare, and now
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#93
you pay it in taxes. There will be no premiums, including people who are currently on Medicare and
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#4
Do you really think that the republican members of Congress will just roll over and beg for this?
dhol82
Jan 2020
#11
No, but the people will want it and he will go to every state if need be to tell them what they can
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#16
Well I know people are sick of going bankrupt or dying because they can't get healthcare. Sure you
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#20
No. Clearly people vote against their own self interests time and time again and this will be no
UniteFightBack
Jan 2020
#103
The current Medicare tax is 1.45% for the employee and 1.45% for the employer.
stopbush
Jan 2020
#32
There is an income level for people to start paying. Lower income does not pay anything. This is
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#48
It is a tax, not a premium. Sorry, it should be keeps the costs per person low.
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#79
All patient's will be public, so unless they don't want to work anymore, they have no choice.
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#190
I don't know too may patient's who would love to pay out of pocket for their healthcare.
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#197
I have been in the healthcare field for 40 years. Doctor's don't like to retire.
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#199
Medicare for all could make it a lot easier for them, if they don't feel like working
pnwmom
Jan 2020
#203
"Fall for it"? It's not current Medicare... it's an *improved* version of Medicare.
thesquanderer
Jan 2020
#26
No it's not. It has little in common with the current Medicare. Actually probably just the "name".
George II
Jan 2020
#42
What it has in common is that it is a government run single payer system.
thesquanderer
Jan 2020
#56
But, without considering how Medicare is administered, Sanders is proposing....
George II
Jan 2020
#57
OMG keeping costs down, are you serious. The way they keep costs down is by denying coverage.
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#80
He'll end $1000 or so in premiums, but assess $2000 in taxes. Win-lose for Americans.
George II
Jan 2020
#12
I was generalizing. My point is we have no details, and the cost is probably more than we'll "save".
George II
Jan 2020
#29
That's trickle down, which we know doesn't work. Employers will pocket the difference, if any.
George II
Jan 2020
#110
Where in the world did you find that hogwash or did you concoct it on your own?
LonePirate
Jan 2020
#163
Bernie's plan (and really Elizabeth's) is really more of a "Medicaid" for all
dflprincess
Jan 2020
#21
We will pay SOMETHING. That lack of detail is what bothers me about Sen. Sanders,
Blue_true
Jan 2020
#41
NOTHING is FREE. And when we start bandying about 'free this and free that' WE LOSE. nt
UniteFightBack
Jan 2020
#104
So am I and it is the best insurance I have ever had, but I am sure willing to have support everyone
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#52
If you believe him, he will eliminate Medicare premiums, make copays zero, free dental, and
Hoyt
Jan 2020
#35
And his plan covers 80 % he said it...by my math that is a 20% deductible that has no out of
Demsrule86
Jan 2020
#53
No he did not. There is no deductible, no coinsurance, and a max of $200 for prescription drugs.
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#67
Well we seem to have no problem funding military, wars and tax breaks for the rich, so I guess
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#64
How about this: what if that pie in the sky actually means that you and the average American
stopbush
Jan 2020
#122
How do so many Dems and DUers not understand single payer health care systems like MFA?
LonePirate
Jan 2020
#61
There are no limits. You get the care you need just like in other countries. If people can get
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#94
I am sure there are things that it won't cover, I would think implants would be listed as cosmetic.
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#99
I was suprised too. In fact, I thought may be was another patient's test, because I have never had
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#150
You realize don't you that Medicare now is not the Medicare For All bill of Sanders.
Nanjeanne
Jan 2020
#111
I don't think they do. I don't think people currently on Medicare realize that they most likely
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#115
No I do not mean Medicaid. Medicare for all is no premiums, no deductibles and $200 out of pocket
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#127
I don't know what they are and I don't care what they are there. Here they will be 6.5%
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#134
Currently, 100% of workers pay into Medicare thru a weekly payroll deduction of 1.45%.
stopbush
Jan 2020
#119
Again, Sanders does not provide SPECIFICS on where the funding comes from for his program.
stopbush
Jan 2020
#138
Show me a better plan that covers EVERYONE and I'm all for it. I don't see one out there.
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#143
I never realized so many people liked the current US health care system until I read the MFA threads
LonePirate
Jan 2020
#168
I know, I really don't get it. People saying this is going to make Medicare and healthcare worse.
vsrazdem
Jan 2020
#171
MFA was deliberately named that because people like and are familiar with Medicare
MichMan
Jan 2020
#183
Somebody needs to tell some of these people how much the taxes are in Canada, or the Netherlands.
redstatebluegirl
Jan 2020
#188