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Cha

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169. I'm sorry you're "suffering" in a red state.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 05:35 PM
Mar 2019

But that doesn't mean ACA isn't helping Millions of people who are enrolled and getting help with their pre-existing conditions.

5 Ways the Affordable Care Act is Helping Real People

Affordable Care Act Helps People with Pre-Existing Conditions

Based on their past proposals to replace the ACA, the Republican replacement plan would drastically weaken these protections.

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https://familiesusa.org/5-ways-affordable-care-act-helping-real-people
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
maybe he doesn't understand it JI7 Mar 2019 #1
Maybe Bernie DOES & understands that single-payer MFA is the ONLY solution to guaranteeing the right InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #55
So, having NO health care is better than an inferior one? brooklynite Mar 2019 #91
Why is it the ONLY solution? betsuni Mar 2019 #93
It's BS. for him it's all or nothing. Amimnoch Mar 2019 #97
Russia enid602 Mar 2019 #138
It isn't, of course NastyRiffraff Mar 2019 #168
A single-payer MFA will never pass. So why not support something that will pass? George II Mar 2019 #108
Yup, I gotcha... they said the same thing about the Civil Rights Act. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #112
No they didn't. George II Mar 2019 #117
+1000. No way it can even start the process until we have the house, Senate and WH. ehrnst Mar 2019 #131
ACA only goes away if MFA passes to replace it... it's not single payer or nothing. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #182
Again, we're not getting the Senate back any time soon, let alone SCOTUS. ehrnst Mar 2019 #184
He introduced it in 2017, do you know the status of it? Hearings, committee votes, floor votes? George II Mar 2019 #229
Criticize Bernie all you like... his ideas are catching on for a reason. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #249
I'll support the law we currently have and also support improving it. Not hitching my wagon... George II Mar 2019 #251
Senator Sanders is no LBJ. And Sanders doesn't have an MLK making the case to the public. ehrnst Mar 2019 #130
Using this analogy, it's like being against Brown vs. Board of Education because.... George II Mar 2019 #135
Exactly. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #136
good analogy Celerity Mar 2019 #205
Millions of people are going to be hurt. And the civil rights bill was negotiated. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #152
Riiiight! Like all those tens of millions who will be given their constitutional right to healthcare InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #179
It would come too late for my daughter who will not survive until 2020 Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #183
It's as though the focus is to banish pharma and insurance companies, and people getting health care ehrnst Mar 2019 #188
+1 betsuni Mar 2019 #194
You said it better than I did. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #198
Your daughter and my youngest are to be collateral damage in the eyes of THE REVOLUTION Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 #203
I think that some people believe that THE REVOLUTION will be exempt ehrnst Mar 2019 #238
With current SCOTUS lineup? Riiiiiight. ehrnst Mar 2019 #186
This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst Mar 2019 #185
Can you support that allegation with objective evidence? LanternWaste Mar 2019 #261
Because it's about him and not about sick people lark Mar 2019 #256
So it is the perfect is the enemy of the good? Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #113
It's a dream. kstewart33 Mar 2019 #114
Well that's the spin.... BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #119
In the meantime, people get sick, have pre-existing conditions, etc. What about them? ehrnst Mar 2019 #122
Excellent post, and this is what it is--inexcusable political R B Garr Mar 2019 #139
MFA will be demonized in the general. No one should run on it. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #153
I agree 100%. If I were running, I would call M4A a mere slogan and suggest Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #262
Yep and it means universal care which is the goal. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #274
It isn't the only solution, and I would expect an experienced senator to know better. yardwork Mar 2019 #127
No it isn't. MFA is not likely to work as 0nly 17% of people are for it when told work place Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #149
Bernie just said True Blue American Mar 2019 #151
But he still won't vote for the only Healthcare that is possible? Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #154
That is what he said! True Blue American Mar 2019 #157
Dear God. I hope this now makes those that support him in the primary Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #158
Bernie is way too set in "his ways". SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2019 #196
Yeah... he only wants everyone in this country to have healthcare, as is their right. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #202
And if he can't get that for us today (he can't), then we deserve nothing? MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #240
Yeah I believe in nothing as the alternative... why make that up? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #248
Not exactly what I said or meant. MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #257
and he needs to make it clear that Insurance will still be available. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2019 #255
+1 sandensea Mar 2019 #258
It's fun (and certainly ethically convenient) to pretend there's only one solution LanternWaste Mar 2019 #260
Why? It's not the only solution in Canada, Germany, or Switzerland, pnwmom Mar 2019 #269
Maybe. But still question whether anyone should vote for him in a primary. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #165
Jesus. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #2
Pretty damn cruel dalton99a Mar 2019 #11
I don't understand is Sanders willing to have no deal since there is sno way we get MFA Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #150
Pretty much. tymorial Mar 2019 #102
Purity Nurse Jackie. Must. Have. Purity. BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #123
What good purpose does "all or nothing" serve when it means we get "nothing"? NurseJackie Mar 2019 #134
I heard the interview. TomSlick Mar 2019 #3
then why hasn't he passed it all in his many years in office ? JI7 Mar 2019 #5
As I understood him, TomSlick Mar 2019 #12
My take, dogman Mar 2019 #22
So says a millionaire who qualifies for medicare LuvLoogie Mar 2019 #36
No kidding. redstatebluegirl Mar 2019 #110
If that is his plan why would any Democrat vote for him in a primary? Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #156
All or nothing MyNameGoesHere Mar 2019 #95
Because, of course, he doesn't. Cha Mar 2019 #4
He knows it's time to go all in on Medicare for All. No more Incrementalism,especially with Trump Power 2 the People Mar 2019 #6
And let Americans pay the price with their lives in the meantime? RandySF Mar 2019 #10
This bill isn't going anywhere with the current senate or president. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #15
So? The bottom line is he's not prepared to support the position of the Democratic Party. George II Mar 2019 #45
Exactly. And he has no viable alternative, he admitted as much. nt Blue_true Mar 2019 #62
So can Bernie's alternative pass? Blue_true Mar 2019 #61
The world as it is means that bill or any other bill passed by Democrats is going nowhere in... Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #69
So if neither the democrats' bill or Bernie's plan now have a chance, Blue_true Mar 2019 #72
That's exactly what he is doing. He's sticking to his message. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #74
Did he even introduce "his" bill in the Senate yet? What were the votes for/against it? George II Mar 2019 #100
Well said!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #88
No, nor should it. It would paint those who vote for it socialist. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #167
They are as Sanders helps Republicans promote the image that... WeekiWater Mar 2019 #67
Lol. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #70
It's not that funny. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #71
My 22 year old daughter will not survive if the ACA goes down. She can't be without Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #170
So opposing a bill that is going nowhere is OK now, because the bill is futile? ehrnst Mar 2019 #137
It gives the GOP cover and helps Trump. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #171
Umm Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #174
And? (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #177
Yeah but it sounds more horrendous sensational to accuse Bernie and his policies of killing people. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #254
If It no longer exists there's nothing to improve upon. Drumpf will get his way.Time to go all in. Power 2 the People Mar 2019 #18
Wow. You sound positively giddy over people losing their healthcare. Drunken Irishman Mar 2019 #129
That seemed to be the plan. TomSlick Mar 2019 #28
plus 30 million ( the amount who will lose coverage if Rump wins in the SCOTUS) Celerity Mar 2019 #35
+1,000,000 George II Mar 2019 #46
I guess BS doesn't care about that aspect. dubyadiprecession Mar 2019 #107
Not to mention this bill, or any other bill strengthening ACA, is DOA in the senate and Oval Office. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #14
+1 Power 2 the People Mar 2019 #19
We don't know that. The Gop is taking heat and this gives the GOP coverage. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #160
I have some bad news for you Trenzalore Mar 2019 #25
Don't be so pessimistic. We'll get there. Especially if Trump is dumb enough to kill the ACA. Power 2 the People Mar 2019 #30
I was around in 2009-2010 Trenzalore Mar 2019 #31
Actually,,,,, Eko Mar 2019 #49
Joe Lieberman, running as an Independent, watoos Mar 2019 #50
He was the Democratic nominee for VP in 2000 Trenzalore Mar 2019 #51
"We" betsuni Mar 2019 #92
Oh, yes we can disinherit Lieberman! True Blue American Mar 2019 #155
It's not 'pessimism." If Trump gets help killing the ACA from 'progressives,' that's the opposite ehrnst Mar 2019 #133
That is not true. We get nothing if Trump kills the ACA. THE Senate is tough for us, Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #161
I wouldn't bet on that one anymore. Amimnoch Mar 2019 #181
There is no way other than incrementally to retrofit the health care system in this country. ehrnst Mar 2019 #132
Yes and that is Ok. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #162
And yet you tried to push another article in GD that said he would support strengthening it. MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #241
Don't be ridiculous. I posted an article from the Huffington Post. I DIDN'T WRITE THE ARTICLE Power 2 the People Mar 2019 #252
Same ol' Bernie or Bust - Me or Nothing dalton99a Mar 2019 #7
What! mcar Mar 2019 #8
He came across as unreasonable, especially compared to Pete Buttigieg, who was interviewed next. highplainsdem Mar 2019 #9
YES Celerity Mar 2019 #38
Again, this is a perfect example of Bernie creating division in the Democratic Party. Stuart G Mar 2019 #64
I don't think Bernie is all that interested in the Democrat Party. kstewart33 Mar 2019 #115
I want the contrast to become plain in the first debate. nt Blue_true Mar 2019 #63
Yeah, so? NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT #ACA2 BEING THE END OF THE LINE. Cha Mar 2019 #13
He has healthcare SHRED Mar 2019 #16
Which is more than my kid will have if this causes us to lose the ACA. WHAT Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #172
There Are Some People Who Become Much More Stubborn as They Age dlk Mar 2019 #17
Again, similarities to the current White House are eerie dalton99a Mar 2019 #20
Yes dlk Mar 2019 #24
Right? MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #98
And some would negotiate away half of their position on a talk show. dogman Mar 2019 #26
And there are adults who know this symbolic bill is going nowhere in the senate or Oval Office. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #32
"All or Nothing" gets people hurt. Period. RandySF Mar 2019 #34
Walk me through how this bill does anything other than pass the house? Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #43
Beto: We will defend the ACA. We will protect the care of those whose lives depend on it. Cha Mar 2019 #21
He could never be an effective President Trenzalore Mar 2019 #23
Well said! NurseJackie Mar 2019 #29
" He has no concept of making things better instead of failing trying to make things perfect." Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 #204
Being an effective POTUS involves working well with others, and ehrnst Mar 2019 #239
And what are people supposed to do in the meantime? greatauntoftriplets Mar 2019 #27
You aware the republicans hold the senate and the presidency. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #33
It's known as "party loyalty" and solidarity. The fact that just hours before he said that.... George II Mar 2019 #41
So it's ok to bail on it? RandySF Mar 2019 #80
This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Mar 2019 #44
Sadly, I'm not all that surprised with the answer. What DOES surprise me is Hayes' acknowledging... George II Mar 2019 #37
That was a pleasant surprise. Cha Mar 2019 #42
That's why he withdrew his support from Hillarycare. OhZone Mar 2019 #39
Exactly! It was the same BS back then. All or nothing R B Garr Mar 2019 #141
He also just threw the House Dems under the bus...including many who presumably support BOTH Cha Mar 2019 #40
He's doesn't support insurance industry healthcare. Pretty simple. jalan48 Mar 2019 #47
So he doesn't support thee health care that the vast comradebillyboy Mar 2019 #79
That most of those people Freddie Mar 2019 #89
No, he supports a single payer plan that does not rely on employers providing a health care plan. jalan48 Mar 2019 #116
You don't think healthcare is a right? BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #124
Thanks-I had it backwards. I need another cup of coffee. jalan48 Mar 2019 #140
Here is the clip Gothmog Mar 2019 #48
Mahalo, Goth.. smh Cha Mar 2019 #52
Charles (whoever that is) GABA tweeted a lie. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #54
"I helped write the Affordable Care Act. So I don't want somebody suggesting I'm trying to dismantle betsuni Mar 2019 #57
BS sure flipped a switch. Cha Mar 2019 #81
Not very consistent. betsuni Mar 2019 #84
Wow.. I'm guessing sirota and briahna Cha Mar 2019 #85
It's almost like he's a politician adjusting policy to changing conditions. betsuni Mar 2019 #86
Exactly, Paul Krugman! He gets it. Thank You Cha Mar 2019 #87
You're welcome for the quotes and thank you for the tweets! betsuni Mar 2019 #90
I think Chris Hayes, like many former supporters, has moved on at this point. N/T lapucelle Mar 2019 #94
Bernie won't support the Dems' efforts to bolster the ACA. Make no mistake: if the ACA goes Cha Mar 2019 #59
Bernie resents the Democrats like a deadbeat boyfriend resents his girlfriend's parents. LuvLoogie Mar 2019 #53
lol ... I was thinking of it as Bernie being resentful when his ex-girlfriend moves on from their SFnomad Mar 2019 #56
LOL... LuvLoogie Mar 2019 #58
+1 RandySF Mar 2019 #60
Apt description.:) True Blue American Mar 2019 #173
But Bernie is more of a Democrat than most Democrats, amirite? betsuni Mar 2019 #65
Love your first line. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #146
Being opposed to positive incremental change on an issue... WeekiWater Mar 2019 #66
This is what happens . . . peggysue2 Mar 2019 #125
When you take the progress out of progressive... sheshe2 Mar 2019 #187
He didn't even mention the ACA by name on his spot with Hayes tonight Starry Messenger Mar 2019 #68
Paraphrasing for simplicity BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #73
It was that all or nothing principle which facilitated putting trump in the WH still_one Mar 2019 #75
And, their "All" was based Cha Mar 2019 #76
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Mar 2019 #96
Would he Veto incremental reforms? WeekiWater Mar 2019 #77
Good point LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #78
And we all know, she was a bad egg ... SFnomad Mar 2019 #82
Sirota and Briahna were great hires. "Republicans are trying to repeal Obamacare and I don't support Cha Mar 2019 #83
Yeah...because he wants to go further with M4A. TCJ70 Mar 2019 #99
If one can't go the first few steps, how can one go "further"? And we should all remember this... George II Mar 2019 #101
So let's do it again. The ACA was a big step...let's take another one. n/t TCJ70 Mar 2019 #104
And that's what the Democrats are trying to do in the House. They introduced a bill... George II Mar 2019 #106
To be clear...I like the things in the proposal laid out yesterday. TCJ70 Mar 2019 #109
Not only will it not pass the Senate, it won't even be brought up in The Senate. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #121
So tell us then, when will "Medicare for All" be brought up in the Senate? George II Mar 2019 #197
Progressives Support Shoring Up ACA Before Tackling Medicare For All Cha Mar 2019 #195
Good to hear! betsuni Mar 2019 #199
Just another reason why BlueMTexpat Mar 2019 #103
++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Mar 2019 #105
Washington Post-House Democrats' health-care bill hurts Trump and Bernie Gothmog Mar 2019 #111
Like I keep saying, he's only in this thing for himself Blue_Tires Mar 2019 #118
YUUUUUUGE ego. yardwork Mar 2019 #128
Just heckles from the balcony section. Amimnoch Mar 2019 #247
Bye bye Bernie! BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #120
WTF, Bernie! yardwork Mar 2019 #126
This message was self-deleted by its author brandnewday2009 Mar 2019 #142
Bernie wants something much much better than the ACA..Medicare for all! workinclasszero Mar 2019 #143
The plural of anecdote is not data. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #144
Sure, I'm the only person in the entire country that the ACA didn't help workinclasszero Mar 2019 #145
I'm sorry you're "suffering" in a red state. Cha Mar 2019 #169
So what's the answer for 87000 uninsured in Missouri workinclasszero Mar 2019 #175
No one is talking about ACA being the end game.. Cha Mar 2019 #178
It is as ll we got. And all that we may ever have. How can he send thousands to their deaths? Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #163
Please don't add false information to this thread. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #201
Just the facts.... workinclasszero Mar 2019 #210
Despite all of this information that you provided, TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #236
Dear Goddess, say it ain't so! sheshe2 Mar 2019 #147
Sanders needs to burn the village in order to save it...nt SidDithers Mar 2019 #148
Not all burned villages get saved and the harm to folks would be a horrific. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #164
He lost my primary support Liberalhammer Mar 2019 #159
All I know, there is no incentive for me to vote for someone in the primaries who appointed three still_one Mar 2019 #166
+1 Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #259
This is making the perfect the enemy of the good thinking Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #176
If we could get all or nothing.... LakeArenal Mar 2019 #180
We'd have nothing. betsuni Mar 2019 #189
"Single payer" wouldn't have passed, even with Democrats in the majority in both houses.... George II Mar 2019 #190
Sanders' new national press secretary weighs in on twitter: George II Mar 2019 #191
So what are the 20 million Americans at risk? RandySF Mar 2019 #192
Seemingly. Sad that for some people "politics" is a binary choice. George II Mar 2019 #193
I called it Last Night.. Cha Mar 2019 #200
I'll pass on BG's "Incrementalism is both a electoral & moral loser." Cha Mar 2019 #223
Yes, I agree, will pass on whatever she means by that. George II Mar 2019 #232
This message was self-deleted by its author Eric J in MN Mar 2019 #206
Bernie's point is that he's for Medicare for All. Eric J in MN Mar 2019 #207
Don't try to explain BS.. we know what he said.. Cha Mar 2019 #216
He helped write that "incremental" ACA. betsuni Mar 2019 #237
He said that he wouldn't support it, to me that's "no": George II Mar 2019 #242
Bernie has been in Congress since 1991 Eric J in MN Mar 2019 #268
Then, why did he co-sponsor the Senate version? TwilightZone Mar 2019 #250
Then he and I are quite done. susanna Mar 2019 #208
+1000000000000 betsuni Mar 2019 #209
Thank you, betsuni. susanna Mar 2019 #211
Anyone who can sit back and watch millions of Americans suffer and die for lack of health insurance workinclasszero Mar 2019 #212
OK, then explain to me the mechanism in how MFA works. susanna Mar 2019 #213
"The ACA is REAL. It is the LAW." workinclasszero Mar 2019 #217
I explained this in my post. susanna Mar 2019 #219
So you understand then why the ACA is a false savior for millions of Americans workinclasszero Mar 2019 #224
Of course I understand the support - who doesn't want it?! susanna Mar 2019 #226
It's amusing that this country can charge a trillion and a half dollars to throw at billionaires workinclasszero Mar 2019 #234
Well said. susanna Mar 2019 #244
As I explained to you in another post.. Cha Mar 2019 #215
So how much longer do millions of Americans have to wait until we get real healthcare for all? workinclasszero Mar 2019 #221
I'll go with the Wisdom of the House Dems on this.. Cha Mar 2019 #225
So much this. susanna Mar 2019 #228
I'm so sorry for what Cha Mar 2019 #214
Thank you so much, Cha. susanna Mar 2019 #218
Exactly, susanna.. Cha Mar 2019 #220
No, I'm in Michigan. :) susanna Mar 2019 #222
Aha! I had to ask.. Cha Mar 2019 #227
I'm jealous! susanna Mar 2019 #231
lol.. that's very Cha Mar 2019 #235
It's a beautiful state. susanna Mar 2019 #245
Nice talking to you, too, Cha Mar 2019 #263
Here are all the details, including summaries, the text of the comprehensive bill, lapucelle Mar 2019 #230
Mahalo, Ms Researcher! Cha Mar 2019 #233
Thank you, lapucelle... susanna Mar 2019 #266
I am so very sorry about your sister -- and glad that the ACA gave you a little peace of mind. pnwmom Mar 2019 #270
Thank you, pnwmom. susanna Mar 2019 #272
From Prof Krugman Gothmog Mar 2019 #243
"..he really needs to walk this back, clearly and unambiguously." Cha Mar 2019 #264
So when it comes time to actually HELP people and protect them he says NO! NOT PURE ENOUGH Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 #246
I prefer progress over purity with no results myself. Amimnoch Mar 2019 #253
Yeah, BS says he'll Cha Mar 2019 #265
Fair weather friend. ucrdem Mar 2019 #267
From the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Mar 2019 #271
Every time this thread gets kicked to the top, it makes me angry all over again... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #273
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