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pnwmom

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70. One of them, an attorney, was prepared to testify about a sexualized atmosphere in Thomas's office.
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 01:08 AM
Dec 2019

She was "reluctant" to testify in that she wasn't attention seeking -- but she thought it would be important. She also said she knew that if it became known that she testified, that would damage her career with law firms which might send cases to the Supreme Court.

But not calling the other women -- Hardnett, Wright, and Jourdain -- wasn't the only serious mistake Biden made. And today even Biden acknowledges the hearing he led wasn't fair to her.

https://www.npr.org/2018/09/23/650956623/anita-hill-testimony-the-witness-not-called

MARTIN: So let me just paraphrase from the sworn affidavit that you said. You said you were not claiming to be a victim of sexual harassment, but you wanted to testify about a sexualized atmosphere that you observed where you said that young, black women in particular were, quote, being inspected and auditioned as a female. But why did you feel that that added to the understanding of the events? Because you're saying you did not have specific knowledge of their interactions.

HARDNETT: What I wanted to do was corroborate the fact that Anita Hill, like so many other young females at the commission, would be an audition by Clarence for whatever purpose. He would call them into his office. In particular with me, Clarence expected me to be available to him every morning and for lunch, and I would run down to a friend of mine's office and hide just to avoid being in the situation with Clarence where I would have uncomfortable conversations.

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HARDNET: There was some talk about the fact that certain people would be called to testify, and I agreed to do that. And I did it reluctantly. I didn't really want to be thrown into the public atmosphere any more than anyone else. But I felt it was necessary to say that because that position is a very important position. It's a position that affects the lives of all of us.

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HARDNETT: Oh, no. I have no regrets about speaking up when I did. I mean, there have been repercussions in terms of my employment, in terms of law firms who wouldn't want to be associated with someone who had a history of making a statement against a Supreme Court justice by the mere fact that some of their cases could possibly go before the Supreme Court. It did have somewhat of a negative impact on my professional career, but I've always tried to live on the right side of justice. Now, I may not have always succeeded, but I've always tried. And I thought that that was really important to make the statement on behalf of Anita Hill.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/joe-biden-was-in-charge-of-the-anita-hill-hearing-even-he-says-it-wasnt-fair/2019/04/26/a9a6f384-6500-11e9-82ba-fcfeff232e8f_story.html

Joe Biden was in charge of the Anita Hill hearing. Even he says it wasn’t fair.

Interviews with a dozen people with firsthand knowledge and a review of the written record and interviews published with participants over the past three decades reinforce that Biden failed to use the powers afforded to Senate committee chairmen to conduct a judicious and thorough inquiry into Hill’s allegations. He did not give full consideration to witnesses whose allegations seemed to corroborate her testimony or curb the attacks and innuendo leveled at her during the hearing. A former Biden lawyer told The Washington Post this month that the Democrats were outmaneuvered by Republicans, whose purpose was to damage Hill.

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Thomas was asked questions about a woman named Angela Wright, a former EEOC employee whose claim that he had asked the size of her breasts and pressured her for dates had made its way to the committee. Wright, then an editor at the Charlotte Observer, was deposed by staffers and flew to Washington under subpoena. Biden, citing time constraints, never called her to testify.

Two other women who had worked at the EEOC were also seen as potential witnesses whose accounts would support Hill’s. Rose Jourdain could corroborate Wright’s story, and Sukari Hardnett wrote to the committee that “if you were young, black, female and reasonably attractive, you knew full well you were being inspected and auditioned as a female” by Thomas while working for him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
not much that can be done about that BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #1
no gabbard? nt msongs Dec 2019 #2
She's polling pretty poorly. bearsfootball516 Dec 2019 #3
That's a relief. n/t Chemisse Dec 2019 #8
no, she is only one poll away from qualifying (and can get it 2 different ways) Celerity Dec 2019 #18
The 6 include 2 women, 1 gay man, 1 Jew... any would be historic firsts as nominees. (n/t) thesquanderer Dec 2019 #4
So would an elderly candidate who is not an incumbent be a historic first. emmaverybo Dec 2019 #7
whoopy-do pnwmom Dec 2019 #9
White people claiming an all-white group is "diverse" because some are women, some are old and one StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #22
Other differences from straight white male make people happy too treestar Dec 2019 #42
Of course they make people happy StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #44
Now that they are all men treestar Dec 2019 #46
I disagree StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #47
I disagree on the white liberals treestar Dec 2019 #50
As a black woman who's frequently been on the receiving end when some white liberals show their true StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #55
In your hypothetical though treestar Dec 2019 #59
That wouldn't necessarily be true StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #63
This post is absolute nonsense LeftTurn3623 Dec 2019 #64
Why is it that you hate Biden so much? Having met him quite a few times. He is a decent guy... Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #25
I don't hate him. I prefer other candidates, and I see his age as a negative, not a plus. pnwmom Dec 2019 #29
I know i it is a big deal for you...but I blame Republicans for Anita Hill not Democrats and not Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #31
Age isn't the determining factor but, as I said, elderly age isn't a plus. And I do like Anita Hill pnwmom Dec 2019 #32
He did not have that power...not in those times. Democrats were going to vote for him in sufficient Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #33
Yes, in those times. For one thing, it was his decision and his alone to end the hearings pnwmom Dec 2019 #35
Democrats had signalled and out and out told him, they would vote for Thomas....so there was Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #36
If those women had publicly corroborated Anita, those Democrats would have been in a much pnwmom Dec 2019 #56
I spent time reviewing the evidence ...what I could find as I didn't watch these hearings... Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #48
It wasn't just one witness. There were at least two women willing to testify publicly. pnwmom Dec 2019 #57
According to what I read...one woman didn't want to testify and one was not there when the Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #69
One of them, an attorney, was prepared to testify about a sexualized atmosphere in Thomas's office. pnwmom Dec 2019 #70
I don't know that it would have changed anything. And you need to understand that the public Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #71
Millions of women like me supported her and watched with disgust. And Biden could have pnwmom Dec 2019 #72
no, William Henry Harrison was 68 (life expectancy for a man at that age was 74 in 1841) Celerity Dec 2019 #19
Interesting treestar Dec 2019 #39
the big thing back then was infant mortality, which was so so high Celerity Dec 2019 #41
Yes, they didn't drop dead at 40 treestar Dec 2019 #52
John Adams & Thomas Jefferson both died on the same day, July 4, 1826, on the US's 50th anniversary Celerity Dec 2019 #54
Isn't that amazing? treestar Dec 2019 #58
Charles Carroll, Nov 14, 1832 (95yo) Last signer of the United States Declaration of Independence Celerity Dec 2019 #60
That's so interesting thank you! treestar Dec 2019 #65
+100000 Celerity Dec 2019 #67
How did Steyer & Klobuchar make the stage? LeftTurn3623 Dec 2019 #5
It's not based on averages, it's based on having enough specific polls. n/t pnwmom Dec 2019 #10
Her neighbour Iowa only saved Klobuchar. If not for IA, she would only have 1 qualify poll. Celerity Dec 2019 #43
Interesting, thanks! nt redqueen Dec 2019 #45
yw Celerity Dec 2019 #49
Six white candidates, 4 of them male. stopbush Dec 2019 #6
harris chose to drop out, she didn't have to. not being in a debate does not mean msongs Dec 2019 #12
She cited a lack of funds, and that she cannot self fund like the billionaires. stopbush Dec 2019 #13
Nonsense. Klobuchar hasn't dropped out. Gabbard hasn't dropped out DrToast Dec 2019 #34
What? squirecam Dec 2019 #14
Gay men? Plural. Who's the other one? stopbush Dec 2019 #17
What about Jewish? killaphill Dec 2019 #21
Women make up 50.8% of the population (2010 census), stopbush Dec 2019 #26
Minority status doesn't just have to do with raw numbers. killaphill Dec 2019 #28
So facts are malleable to you when it comes to making your point. stopbush Dec 2019 #30
This is not a grouping that requires diversity treestar Dec 2019 #38
I'm pretty heartbroken by this. Jirel Dec 2019 #11
I think all the candidates on the stage have something to say. StevieM Dec 2019 #16
Booker and Harris had five debates in which to say them... brooklynite Dec 2019 #20
Yang and Gabbard may well make the debate stage as well. StevieM Dec 2019 #15
I hope not...the debates suck with so many candidates...unwatchable. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #23
We can give all the opportunity but we can't manage the outcomes...it is also true that Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #24
I was sorry to see Harris withdraw. With such a large field it is challenging to get enough funds. 33taw Dec 2019 #27
We can't expect to have a black President at all times treestar Dec 2019 #37
+1 redqueen Dec 2019 #40
The best president in my lifetime. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #51
Same here. treestar Dec 2019 #66
agree. As i posted yesterday, natural attrition onetexan Dec 2019 #61
Good. Polly Hennessey Dec 2019 #53
Having two women on the stage and a gay is historically diverse question everything Dec 2019 #62
Bummer-- she was one of my favorites, but so it goes. TreasonousBastard Dec 2019 #68
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