Democratic Primaries

Bettie

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210. They are a very tiny portion of the population

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:48 PM

Nov 2019

with an extremely large control over our entire nation.

They own politicians. Apparently, owning a Senator or two is highly profitable these days.

They own the media and thus control the messaging.

They own the machines that record our votes.

They decide who gets medical care and who doesn't.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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I've never liked politicians that demonize groups of people. [View all] Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 OP

I knew somehow this was going to be a ridiculous argument. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #1

They are Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #2

I weep for all the poor put upon billionaires. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #3

Thanks for proving my point! Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #6

Maybe we should add 'billionaire' as a protected class to the civil rights act. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #7

And proving it yet again! Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #9

Or perhaps we could have billionaire sanctuary cities! Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #12

You made me laugh with that one! Red Oak Nov 2019 #90

Thanks again for proving my point Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #142

Your point has been demolished ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #11

Indeed. demmiblue Nov 2019 #14

So you support demonizing a whole group of people Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #17

Please proceed.... ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #19

How about "people responsible for wrecking our republic for their personal benefit"? Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #20

The individuals that are proven to have done that Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #26

So subjecting them to taxes is cruel and unusual punisment? hedda_foil Nov 2019 #83

Never said that Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #88

No, that's precisely what you're saying. hedda_foil Nov 2019 #95

Thank you ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #96

No it is not Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #102

Not ALL billionaires feel 'put upon', just the whiny ones. blm Nov 2019 #65

He didn't qualify anything Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #68

The poor put upon billionaires. Patriotic millionaires group doesn't feel blm Nov 2019 #72

But that was not posted Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #73

BS. The qualifier is the description 'put upon'. Patriotic group could NOT blm Nov 2019 #76

That is not a qualifier Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #80

It is. Like deplorable. Every HONEST person heard what HRC said, yet blm Nov 2019 #85

Actually Clinton said Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #92

There are billionaires who feel put upon and many who don't. blm Nov 2019 #103

There was no qualification Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #105

PUT UPON billionaires as opposed to those who DON'T feel put upon blm Nov 2019 #110

Stop pretending there was any qualification Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #113

Only YOU are pretending here. I know the difference blm Nov 2019 #118

There was no qualification Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #124

Dig away. blm Nov 2019 #127

I have no problem with stating the truth. Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #129

YOUR twisted version blm Nov 2019 #151

Only twisted to those Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #161

You're being ridiculous and argumentative. Why? SammyWinstonJack Nov 2019 #243

Projection Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #244

You've got to be kidding. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2019 #242

Seriously!! Boo-fuckin'-hoo!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #84

What about the infamous treestar Nov 2019 #150

an entire group DonCoquixote Nov 2019 #153

No one can speak? Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #162

yes...speech is stifled DonCoquixote Nov 2019 #249

We all have freedom of speech Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #251

Malarkey. n/t demmiblue Nov 2019 #4

Income inequality is real and its a real problem backtoblue Nov 2019 #5

Never said it wasn't Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #8

is it ok to demonize nazis? Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #16

Interesting that you bring up Nazis Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #21

Yes indeed, objecting to the oligarch class and the mess they have made of our country Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #27

Please don't put words in my mouth Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #29

lol Celerity Nov 2019 #128

So nice that you think Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #130

cry me a river Celerity Nov 2019 #132

Maybe you think we should take away there citizenship too Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #135

sorry, I don't play bullshit non sequitur games Celerity Nov 2019 #138

Could have fooled me Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #141

It can be if the group is privileged treestar Nov 2019 #226

Jokes are not the same Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #232

+10000000000 Celerity Nov 2019 #125

Deserved scrutiny backtoblue Nov 2019 #50

Then you should read Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #70

Do you think your argument has been successful? backtoblue Nov 2019 #214

It's your right to disagree Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #215

oh my. Kurt V. Nov 2019 #10

Reminds me of the billionaires for Bush ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #15

they were fabulous! Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #18

We need them RIGHT NOW! ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #22

FDR: Not your cup of tea, then? Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #13

Depends Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #23

"His support of segregation"? Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #25

He turned a blind eye to it Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #28

Far different from "supporting it." Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #38

Eleanor would disagree with you. Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #40

As far as African American segregation? Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #44

Yes Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #46

I fail to see where we disagree. Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #51

That is semantics Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #55

You said:"not fighting against segregation is supporting it." Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #63

A few laws Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #66

He started the fight. He fought it. To say he didn't and that he supported it is ridiculous. Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #78

Then why didn't he end segregation in the military? Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #82

He couldve done a lot of things he didnt do. Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #134

Truman ended segregation in the military Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #139

Fair enough Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #145

They still did more than FDR Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #159

Internment, segregation of troops in WWII, Soc Security didn't help Blacks initially, Hoyt Nov 2019 #74

Thanks Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #75

Do you ever stop with the HYPERBOLE? ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #100

"What is less known is his racist and anti-Semitic worldview and white supremacist loyalties, emmaverybo Nov 2019 #137

Thanks for posting this! betsuni Nov 2019 #144

+ a million. Political bigotry and blind anger are that no matter Hortensis Nov 2019 #24

shareholder returns aren't keeping up with ceo pay. Kurt V. Nov 2019 #32

Thanks! Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #34

Jamie Dimon said that AFTER he was exposed by Rep Katie Porter on live tv blm Nov 2019 #49

Yeah, because Jamie Dimon cares so much for the everyday hard worker kcr Nov 2019 #146

Trump called Mexicans drug dealers and rapists, not racists. aidbo Nov 2019 #30

Are you sure that they are all evil? Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #36

There's a difference with ridiculing people for the way they were BORN - stopbush Nov 2019 #31

Some people were born rich Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #35

Clearly that was NOT said in the reply from stopbush. blm Nov 2019 #41

Asking for clarity Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #43

Why, when it was never even slightly implied? blm Nov 2019 #54

Actually it was. Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #56

Actually it wasn't. blm Nov 2019 #60

No it was Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #62

Did not say ALL billionaires choose to not help. The criticism is blm Nov 2019 #69

You're playing semantics games Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #71

That would be YOU. No one here says ALL blm Nov 2019 #79

Trump never said all Mexicans are rapists either Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #86

What a reach. No one here at DU has ever stated ALL billionaires are bad. blm Nov 2019 #97

More semantics games Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #104

Enjoy the hole you dug for yourself. blm Nov 2019 #106

Just gonna leave this here JonAndKatePlusABird Nov 2019 #33

I'll ask the question again... pfeiffer Nov 2019 #37

Straw man alert!!!. Nobody has suggested confiscating the billionaires' billions. hedda_foil Nov 2019 #91

Jesus fucking Christ, Bill Gates didn't invent the computer... Humanist_Activist Nov 2019 #98

+1000 bronxiteforever Nov 2019 #147

thank you for your colorful response... pfeiffer Nov 2019 #252

Patriotic Millionaires have been arguing for increases in their taxes blm Nov 2019 #39

Very true Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #42

I think you're the one insisting it's about ALL when it CLEARLY isn't. blm Nov 2019 #57

Again Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #59

You are the one insisting it's about ALL rich people. blm Nov 2019 #61

No I'm not Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #64

NO ONE here says all wealthy people are bad and should be blm Nov 2019 #81

I don't think the term is correct. Newest Reality Nov 2019 #45

Actually it is Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #52

Even worse there are those on this site who demonize Nazis DBoon Nov 2019 #47

False analogy Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #53

The wealthy have made Nazis a real threat. DBoon Nov 2019 #149

So your answer is yes? Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #160

:) Wow. Mocking a call for honesty and decency, for Hortensis Nov 2019 #67

The billionaires who have bought property in New Zealand ... DBoon Nov 2019 #148

Wow BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #48

It creates a useful cartoon villain: "repeated-ad-infinitum sermons about billionaires twisting betsuni Nov 2019 #58

"I don't know who said this" melman Nov 2019 #77

Very interesting article, thanks for the link! betsuni Nov 2019 #89

No problem! melman Nov 2019 #101

I don't like to demonize groups of people. betsuni Nov 2019 #114

Heh. No archival evidence? betsuni Nov 2019 #241

Likening a demographic based on wealth to who Trump targets is silly Otto Lidenbrock Nov 2019 #87

What kind of twaddle is that??? It's utterly nonsensical. hedda_foil Nov 2019 #93

You're entitled to your opinion Otto Lidenbrock Nov 2019 #120

Billionaires have a vested class interest in keeping us living paycheck to paycheck... Humanist_Activist Nov 2019 #94

Thanks so much Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #108

There is no ethical way to accumulate a billion dollars or more... Humanist_Activist Nov 2019 #167

Thanks again for proving my point Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #171

OK, how do you accumulate a billion dollars ethically? Humanist_Activist Nov 2019 #179

I'm calling out demonization and hate Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #181

"No group of people should be demonized" That's an unrealistic standard to have... Humanist_Activist Nov 2019 #191

Yes it is unrealistic Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #193

You don't have a point. PETRUS Nov 2019 #195

No I do Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #197

No cross examination? No defense? PETRUS Nov 2019 #211

I don't need to argue Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #212

... PETRUS Nov 2019 #234

... Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #236

My goodness gracious! And you've only been here 5 weeks! With your brand of logic and reasoning, Atticus Nov 2019 #99

Thanks Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #109

Lololol. Your hole. Is.Deep. Enough. blm Nov 2019 #111

Yes you have Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #115

You are the only one in this thread who believes you have a point. Please proceed. nt Atticus Nov 2019 #117

So? Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #123

Lol! demmiblue Nov 2019 #173

Ooh, let me guess Bettie Nov 2019 #107

Not what I said Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #112

Jamie Dimon, is that you Bettie Nov 2019 #116

I'm waiting for breath holding or feet stomping next ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #119

Maybe we need to have a telethon for the Billionaires Bettie Nov 2019 #122

Again Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #126

Well shit howdy look at this thread, where you ARE talking about taxes ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #121

but but Celerity Nov 2019 #131

Actually that was someone else's post Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #133

Of course you didn't say the word taxes ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #136

My point was that we need modern solutions Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #140

Does the guy you work for know exactly how you're trying to advance his cause here? bullwinkle428 Nov 2019 #143

I don't think anyone's "demonizing" millionaires and billionaires... regnaD kciN Nov 2019 #152

But the OP has a new idea ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #155

The point is there if you squint real hard dalton99a Nov 2019 #187

If you don't Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #163

Thanks for having the courage to stand up for oppressed billionaires. Aaron Pereira Nov 2019 #154

Not the point Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #164

Most millionaires... boomer_wv Nov 2019 #156

The wealth tax that is so feared Bettie Nov 2019 #157

Do they? boomer_wv Nov 2019 #158

Ahhh somebody has a sad ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #165

Salient point to the question peggysue2 Nov 2019 #166

Ah, of course, another person who Bettie Nov 2019 #168

Lol boomer_wv Nov 2019 #213

Post removed Post removed Nov 2019 #169

I don't think it's jealousy Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #175

Stop. I weep for them. Autumn Nov 2019 #170

Not about taxes Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #172

What you see as demonization I see as truth. They do not pay a fair share of their money to taxes. Autumn Nov 2019 #174

Then you've proved my point for me Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #176

I proved nothing for you. You haven't even proved your own point. But by all mean keep trying. Autumn Nov 2019 #178

Again not about taxes Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #180

Yes it is all about taxes. Why else would they be in the discussion and being" demonized" Autumn Nov 2019 #183

My point is not about taxes Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #184

What is your point? Prove it please. What are they being picked on for? TIA nt Autumn Nov 2019 #185

Read my OP again Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #186

I did. By the way there is one billionaire I praise very often, because he gives so much back. Autumn Nov 2019 #189

It's not Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #190

So "all wealthy people are called the oligarch class or that no wealth can be accumulated Autumn Nov 2019 #192

Again not about taxes Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #194

Not about taxes? So what is it about? What are they being demonized for? Give one example of Autumn Nov 2019 #196

I explained Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #198

Since you can't provide one single example of those poor billionaires being demonized by the left Autumn Nov 2019 #200

Read some of the posts Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #201

Nope. Not going to happen. You can't rely on responses to your OP that you claim have nothing to Autumn Nov 2019 #203

Your next response should be this: demmiblue Nov 2019 #204

So you ask for examples Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #205

Stop. You are attempting to use responses that you claim have nothing to do with your OP as proof Autumn Nov 2019 #206

Read the responses Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #207

Not going to do it. They are responses, they are not proof of what you claim your OP is not about. Autumn Nov 2019 #208

The responses prove it Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #209

They are utterly helpless and defenseless against the corporate media dalton99a Nov 2019 #177

Thanks Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #182

180+ posts about Billionaires (really richfolk)? Seriously?? NoMoreRepugs Nov 2019 #188

They are a very tiny portion of the population Bettie Nov 2019 #210

Millionaires are very common these days, billionaires are rare. tinrobot Nov 2019 #199

I'm not a millionaire Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #202

They have demonized themselves Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #216

Thanks for proving my point Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #217

That's all you got? Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #233

It's all I need Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #235

Another fail Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #237

Yes you keep doing that Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #240

They can afford to be demonized; it is not going to hurt them treestar Nov 2019 #218

Thank you Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #219

This is not an effective argument treestar Nov 2019 #220

Again Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #223

That's all you have to say treestar Nov 2019 #224

It's all I need to say Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #225

No it is not and you are not convincing treestar Nov 2019 #245

Yes is is Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #247

Episode V - Oberliner Strikes Back! jcgoldie Nov 2019 #221

Lol! demmiblue Nov 2019 #222

225 replies and only 13 recs. unblock Nov 2019 #227

Somebody, call the whaaaaaaaaaambulance! roody Nov 2019 #228

DUzy. A-Schwarzenegger Nov 2019 #229

Demonization is a problem because it is not effective. pat_k Nov 2019 #230

Exactly how the argument should be made Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #231

There's really no need to demonize millionaires and billionaires TheFarseer Nov 2019 #238

Exactly Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #248

All billionaires have hidden, untaxed assets, totaling in the trillions of dollars, globally. ronnie624 Nov 2019 #239

Hilarious thread. Nt BootinUp Nov 2019 #246

The :sarcasm: tag exists for a reason. BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #250

Equally, I've never liked posters that pretend the false oppression of a privileged demographic. LanternWaste Nov 2019 #253

Thanks for proving my point Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #254

You confuse proof with a biased inference of yours. Again. LanternWaste Nov 2019 #257

Thanks again Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #258

"You proved my point..." LanternWaste Nov 2019 #260

Again Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #261

... Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #255

... demmiblue Nov 2019 #259

With you 100% Dem4Life1102 The Valley Below Nov 2019 #256

Yep. (nt) ehrnst Dec 2019 #262