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30. Trump called Mexicans drug dealers and rapists, not racists.
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 07:26 PM
Nov 2019

I would say 'I'm sure some billionaires are good people.'

But honestly I'm not so sure.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
I knew somehow this was going to be a ridiculous argument. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #1
They are Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #2
I weep for all the poor put upon billionaires. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #3
Thanks for proving my point! Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #6
Maybe we should add 'billionaire' as a protected class to the civil rights act. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #7
And proving it yet again! Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #9
Or perhaps we could have billionaire sanctuary cities! Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #12
You made me laugh with that one! Red Oak Nov 2019 #90
Thanks again for proving my point Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #142
Your point has been demolished ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #11
Indeed. demmiblue Nov 2019 #14
So you support demonizing a whole group of people Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #17
Please proceed.... ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #19
How about "people responsible for wrecking our republic for their personal benefit"? Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #20
The individuals that are proven to have done that Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #26
So subjecting them to taxes is cruel and unusual punisment? hedda_foil Nov 2019 #83
Never said that Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #88
No, that's precisely what you're saying. hedda_foil Nov 2019 #95
Thank you ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #96
No it is not Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #102
Not ALL billionaires feel 'put upon', just the whiny ones. blm Nov 2019 #65
He didn't qualify anything Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #68
The poor put upon billionaires. Patriotic millionaires group doesn't feel blm Nov 2019 #72
But that was not posted Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #73
BS. The qualifier is the description 'put upon'. Patriotic group could NOT blm Nov 2019 #76
That is not a qualifier Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #80
It is. Like deplorable. Every HONEST person heard what HRC said, yet blm Nov 2019 #85
Actually Clinton said Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #92
There are billionaires who feel put upon and many who don't. blm Nov 2019 #103
There was no qualification Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #105
PUT UPON billionaires as opposed to those who DON'T feel put upon blm Nov 2019 #110
Stop pretending there was any qualification Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #113
Only YOU are pretending here. I know the difference blm Nov 2019 #118
There was no qualification Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #124
Dig away. blm Nov 2019 #127
I have no problem with stating the truth. Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #129
YOUR twisted version blm Nov 2019 #151
Only twisted to those Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #161
You're being ridiculous and argumentative. Why? SammyWinstonJack Nov 2019 #243
Projection Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #244
You've got to be kidding. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2019 #242
Seriously!! Boo-fuckin'-hoo!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #84
What about the infamous treestar Nov 2019 #150
an entire group DonCoquixote Nov 2019 #153
No one can speak? Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #162
yes...speech is stifled DonCoquixote Nov 2019 #249
We all have freedom of speech Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #251
Malarkey. n/t demmiblue Nov 2019 #4
Income inequality is real and its a real problem backtoblue Nov 2019 #5
Never said it wasn't Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #8
is it ok to demonize nazis? Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #16
Interesting that you bring up Nazis Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #21
Yes indeed, objecting to the oligarch class and the mess they have made of our country Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #27
Please don't put words in my mouth Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #29
lol Celerity Nov 2019 #128
So nice that you think Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #130
cry me a river Celerity Nov 2019 #132
Maybe you think we should take away there citizenship too Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #135
sorry, I don't play bullshit non sequitur games Celerity Nov 2019 #138
Could have fooled me Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #141
It can be if the group is privileged treestar Nov 2019 #226
Jokes are not the same Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #232
+10000000000 Celerity Nov 2019 #125
Deserved scrutiny backtoblue Nov 2019 #50
Then you should read Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #70
Do you think your argument has been successful? backtoblue Nov 2019 #214
It's your right to disagree Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #215
oh my. Kurt V. Nov 2019 #10
Reminds me of the billionaires for Bush ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #15
they were fabulous! Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #18
We need them RIGHT NOW! ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #22
FDR: Not your cup of tea, then? Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #13
Depends Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #23
"His support of segregation"? Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #25
He turned a blind eye to it Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #28
Far different from "supporting it." Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #38
Eleanor would disagree with you. Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #40
As far as African American segregation? Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #44
Yes Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #46
I fail to see where we disagree. Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #51
That is semantics Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #55
You said:"not fighting against segregation is supporting it." Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #63
A few laws Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #66
He started the fight. He fought it. To say he didn't and that he supported it is ridiculous. Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #78
Then why didn't he end segregation in the military? Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #82
He couldve done a lot of things he didnt do. Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #134
Truman ended segregation in the military Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #139
Fair enough Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #145
They still did more than FDR Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #159
Internment, segregation of troops in WWII, Soc Security didn't help Blacks initially, Hoyt Nov 2019 #74
Thanks Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #75
Do you ever stop with the HYPERBOLE? ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #100
"What is less known is his racist and anti-Semitic worldview and white supremacist loyalties, emmaverybo Nov 2019 #137
Thanks for posting this! betsuni Nov 2019 #144
+ a million. Political bigotry and blind anger are that no matter Hortensis Nov 2019 #24
shareholder returns aren't keeping up with ceo pay. Kurt V. Nov 2019 #32
Thanks! Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #34
Jamie Dimon said that AFTER he was exposed by Rep Katie Porter on live tv blm Nov 2019 #49
Yeah, because Jamie Dimon cares so much for the everyday hard worker kcr Nov 2019 #146
Trump called Mexicans drug dealers and rapists, not racists. aidbo Nov 2019 #30
Are you sure that they are all evil? Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #36
There's a difference with ridiculing people for the way they were BORN - stopbush Nov 2019 #31
Some people were born rich Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #35
Clearly that was NOT said in the reply from stopbush. blm Nov 2019 #41
Asking for clarity Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #43
Why, when it was never even slightly implied? blm Nov 2019 #54
Actually it was. Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #56
Actually it wasn't. blm Nov 2019 #60
No it was Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #62
Did not say ALL billionaires choose to not help. The criticism is blm Nov 2019 #69
You're playing semantics games Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #71
That would be YOU. No one here says ALL blm Nov 2019 #79
Trump never said all Mexicans are rapists either Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #86
What a reach. No one here at DU has ever stated ALL billionaires are bad. blm Nov 2019 #97
More semantics games Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #104
Enjoy the hole you dug for yourself. blm Nov 2019 #106
Just gonna leave this here JonAndKatePlusABird Nov 2019 #33
I'll ask the question again... pfeiffer Nov 2019 #37
Straw man alert!!!. Nobody has suggested confiscating the billionaires' billions. hedda_foil Nov 2019 #91
Jesus fucking Christ, Bill Gates didn't invent the computer... Humanist_Activist Nov 2019 #98
+1000 bronxiteforever Nov 2019 #147
thank you for your colorful response... pfeiffer Nov 2019 #252
Patriotic Millionaires have been arguing for increases in their taxes blm Nov 2019 #39
Very true Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #42
I think you're the one insisting it's about ALL when it CLEARLY isn't. blm Nov 2019 #57
Again Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #59
You are the one insisting it's about ALL rich people. blm Nov 2019 #61
No I'm not Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #64
NO ONE here says all wealthy people are bad and should be blm Nov 2019 #81
I don't think the term is correct. Newest Reality Nov 2019 #45
Actually it is Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #52
Even worse there are those on this site who demonize Nazis DBoon Nov 2019 #47
False analogy Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #53
The wealthy have made Nazis a real threat. DBoon Nov 2019 #149
So your answer is yes? Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #160
:) Wow. Mocking a call for honesty and decency, for Hortensis Nov 2019 #67
The billionaires who have bought property in New Zealand ... DBoon Nov 2019 #148
Wow BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #48
It creates a useful cartoon villain: "repeated-ad-infinitum sermons about billionaires twisting betsuni Nov 2019 #58
"I don't know who said this" melman Nov 2019 #77
Very interesting article, thanks for the link! betsuni Nov 2019 #89
No problem! melman Nov 2019 #101
I don't like to demonize groups of people. betsuni Nov 2019 #114
Heh. No archival evidence? betsuni Nov 2019 #241
Likening a demographic based on wealth to who Trump targets is silly Otto Lidenbrock Nov 2019 #87
What kind of twaddle is that??? It's utterly nonsensical. hedda_foil Nov 2019 #93
You're entitled to your opinion Otto Lidenbrock Nov 2019 #120
Billionaires have a vested class interest in keeping us living paycheck to paycheck... Humanist_Activist Nov 2019 #94
Thanks so much Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #108
There is no ethical way to accumulate a billion dollars or more... Humanist_Activist Nov 2019 #167
Thanks again for proving my point Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #171
OK, how do you accumulate a billion dollars ethically? Humanist_Activist Nov 2019 #179
I'm calling out demonization and hate Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #181
"No group of people should be demonized" That's an unrealistic standard to have... Humanist_Activist Nov 2019 #191
Yes it is unrealistic Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #193
You don't have a point. PETRUS Nov 2019 #195
No I do Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #197
No cross examination? No defense? PETRUS Nov 2019 #211
I don't need to argue Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #212
... PETRUS Nov 2019 #234
... Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #236
My goodness gracious! And you've only been here 5 weeks! With your brand of logic and reasoning, Atticus Nov 2019 #99
Thanks Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #109
Lololol. Your hole. Is.Deep. Enough. blm Nov 2019 #111
Yes you have Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #115
You are the only one in this thread who believes you have a point. Please proceed. nt Atticus Nov 2019 #117
So? Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #123
Lol! demmiblue Nov 2019 #173
Ooh, let me guess Bettie Nov 2019 #107
Not what I said Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #112
Jamie Dimon, is that you Bettie Nov 2019 #116
I'm waiting for breath holding or feet stomping next ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #119
Maybe we need to have a telethon for the Billionaires Bettie Nov 2019 #122
Again Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #126
Well shit howdy look at this thread, where you ARE talking about taxes ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #121
but but Celerity Nov 2019 #131
Actually that was someone else's post Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #133
Of course you didn't say the word taxes ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #136
My point was that we need modern solutions Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #140
Does the guy you work for know exactly how you're trying to advance his cause here? bullwinkle428 Nov 2019 #143
I don't think anyone's "demonizing" millionaires and billionaires... regnaD kciN Nov 2019 #152
But the OP has a new idea ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #155
The point is there if you squint real hard dalton99a Nov 2019 #187
If you don't Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #163
Thanks for having the courage to stand up for oppressed billionaires. Aaron Pereira Nov 2019 #154
Not the point Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #164
Most millionaires... boomer_wv Nov 2019 #156
The wealth tax that is so feared Bettie Nov 2019 #157
Do they? boomer_wv Nov 2019 #158
Ahhh somebody has a sad ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #165
Salient point to the question peggysue2 Nov 2019 #166
Ah, of course, another person who Bettie Nov 2019 #168
Lol boomer_wv Nov 2019 #213
Post removed Post removed Nov 2019 #169
I don't think it's jealousy Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #175
Stop. I weep for them. Autumn Nov 2019 #170
Not about taxes Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #172
What you see as demonization I see as truth. They do not pay a fair share of their money to taxes. Autumn Nov 2019 #174
Then you've proved my point for me Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #176
I proved nothing for you. You haven't even proved your own point. But by all mean keep trying. Autumn Nov 2019 #178
Again not about taxes Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #180
Yes it is all about taxes. Why else would they be in the discussion and being" demonized" Autumn Nov 2019 #183
My point is not about taxes Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #184
What is your point? Prove it please. What are they being picked on for? TIA nt Autumn Nov 2019 #185
Read my OP again Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #186
I did. By the way there is one billionaire I praise very often, because he gives so much back. Autumn Nov 2019 #189
It's not Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #190
So "all wealthy people are called the oligarch class or that no wealth can be accumulated Autumn Nov 2019 #192
Again not about taxes Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #194
Not about taxes? So what is it about? What are they being demonized for? Give one example of Autumn Nov 2019 #196
I explained Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #198
Since you can't provide one single example of those poor billionaires being demonized by the left Autumn Nov 2019 #200
Read some of the posts Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #201
Nope. Not going to happen. You can't rely on responses to your OP that you claim have nothing to Autumn Nov 2019 #203
Your next response should be this: demmiblue Nov 2019 #204
So you ask for examples Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #205
Stop. You are attempting to use responses that you claim have nothing to do with your OP as proof Autumn Nov 2019 #206
Read the responses Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #207
Not going to do it. They are responses, they are not proof of what you claim your OP is not about. Autumn Nov 2019 #208
The responses prove it Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #209
They are utterly helpless and defenseless against the corporate media dalton99a Nov 2019 #177
Thanks Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #182
180+ posts about Billionaires (really richfolk)? Seriously?? NoMoreRepugs Nov 2019 #188
They are a very tiny portion of the population Bettie Nov 2019 #210
Millionaires are very common these days, billionaires are rare. tinrobot Nov 2019 #199
I'm not a millionaire Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #202
They have demonized themselves Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #216
Thanks for proving my point Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #217
That's all you got? Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #233
It's all I need Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #235
Another fail Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #237
Yes you keep doing that Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #240
They can afford to be demonized; it is not going to hurt them treestar Nov 2019 #218
Thank you Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #219
This is not an effective argument treestar Nov 2019 #220
Again Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #223
That's all you have to say treestar Nov 2019 #224
It's all I need to say Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #225
No it is not and you are not convincing treestar Nov 2019 #245
Yes is is Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #247
Episode V - Oberliner Strikes Back! jcgoldie Nov 2019 #221
Lol! demmiblue Nov 2019 #222
225 replies and only 13 recs. unblock Nov 2019 #227
Somebody, call the whaaaaaaaaaambulance! roody Nov 2019 #228
DUzy. A-Schwarzenegger Nov 2019 #229
Demonization is a problem because it is not effective. pat_k Nov 2019 #230
Exactly how the argument should be made Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #231
There's really no need to demonize millionaires and billionaires TheFarseer Nov 2019 #238
Exactly Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #248
All billionaires have hidden, untaxed assets, totaling in the trillions of dollars, globally. ronnie624 Nov 2019 #239
Hilarious thread. Nt BootinUp Nov 2019 #246
The :sarcasm: tag exists for a reason. BuffaloJackalope Nov 2019 #250
Equally, I've never liked posters that pretend the false oppression of a privileged demographic. LanternWaste Nov 2019 #253
Thanks for proving my point Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #254
You confuse proof with a biased inference of yours. Again. LanternWaste Nov 2019 #257
Thanks again Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #258
"You proved my point..." LanternWaste Nov 2019 #260
Again Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #261
... Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #255
... demmiblue Nov 2019 #259
With you 100% Dem4Life1102 The Valley Below Nov 2019 #256
Yep. (nt) ehrnst Dec 2019 #262
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