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crazytown

(7,277 posts)
12. Popular in the Midwest
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 05:37 PM
Nov 2019

(devil's advocate here) or have trump's lying promises left a mark?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
8% payroll Tax needed to fund MFA ritapria Nov 2019 #1
Payroll taxes are regressive...and we already pay too much. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #3
Savings from MFA outweigh increase in Payroll Taxes ritapria Nov 2019 #7
You know what's really regressive? Premiums, copays and deductibles. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2019 #15
I don't find this surprising...what is surprising is Warren's doubling down on this....a losing Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #2
Yes, people love their health insurance! (sarcasm) Red Oak Nov 2019 #6
Yeah I love mine. Loki Liesmith Nov 2019 #16
We must work to change this through regulation and bringing down costs. Single payer will also emmaverybo Nov 2019 #27
I'm not crazy about our health insurance system. Happy Hoosier Nov 2019 #54
"I am not a fan of Medicare for All," said Zandi crazytown Nov 2019 #4
No chit. She can't pay for it all in reality and too many voters won't fall for it. Hoyt Nov 2019 #5
You bet! Red Oak Nov 2019 #8
A Public Option will get us there much quicker than Hoyt Nov 2019 #11
How are we going to pay for a public option!?!??11? Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2019 #17
PO is cheaper and more likely to pass. But, nice that you admit Hoyt Nov 2019 #19
CEO of America's Health Insurance Plans: Biden's healthcare plan is not much different from MFA BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #20
It's significantly different in that people can choose. Hoyt Nov 2019 #21
Of course it's different, the point is it will be lobbied against just as hard BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #22
A pubic option does not cost much Gothmog Nov 2019 #37
Lol. The Public option doesn't cost much but is ranked with MFA as "low cost and high quality"? Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2019 #40
Building on the ACA is the best way to go in the real world Gothmog Nov 2019 #41
Didn't you just post something showing that system as highest cost and lower quality? Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2019 #42
No Gothmog Nov 2019 #43
"This is troubling for Bernie." LanternWaste Nov 2019 #47
Can we please stop with this "real world" shit? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #48
Can you explain how Warren's plan will be adopted in the real world? Gothmog Nov 2019 #50
Have you tried asking her? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #51
I sat three rows behind Senator Warren at the National Convention but the issue never came up Gothmog Nov 2019 #52
Surely can write her. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #53
I am working to turn Texas blue Gothmog Nov 2019 #55
I thought you were concerned about how we were going to pay for it. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #56
Medicare for All at the top of the ticket in 2020 will lose us the House. Gothmog Nov 2019 #57
Your position was clear the first time. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #58
Warren's latest health plan is causing concerns for some centrist, moderate and rural Democrats Gothmog Nov 2019 #63
A public-option plan is the best way to go Gothmog Nov 2019 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author Gothmog Nov 2019 #45
From Jared Bernstein Gothmog Nov 2019 #46
Totally agree. okieinpain Nov 2019 #60
No country has a plan like the proposed M4A dansolo Nov 2019 #30
The rest of the industrialized nations pay much more tax than we do. And they tried wealth emmaverybo Nov 2019 #31
She will pay for it by 'Economic Pariotism' crazytown Nov 2019 #9
Yeah, treat foreign workers like scabs. EP and America First Hoyt Nov 2019 #10
Popular in the Midwest crazytown Nov 2019 #12
Yep, bashing foreigners and minorities is popular in red states. Hoyt Nov 2019 #14
This is one of the reasons why DETAILS are needed. George II Nov 2019 #13
Exactly! peggysue2 Nov 2019 #25
the real story here is billionaires will do everything to avoid this tax. Kurt V. Nov 2019 #18
Totally agree. okieinpain Nov 2019 #61
Her wealth tax probably won't see the light of day and most of her plans revolve around it. FloridaBlues Nov 2019 #23
The wealth tax will probably be challenged as unconstitutional. Could take years to litigate as it emmaverybo Nov 2019 #33
A wealth tax may be unconstitutional and will be tied up in the courts for a long time Gothmog Nov 2019 #38
From my twitter feed Gothmog Nov 2019 #24
Because . . . The Math peggysue2 Nov 2019 #26
Well she needs to prune and prioritize her plans. He is not saying M4All can't get paid for, but emmaverybo Nov 2019 #28
Zandi's wrong, at least in his implication. MH1 Nov 2019 #29
You're right. I'm not happy with it. I'm happy that I have it. It's better than not having it. Iggo Nov 2019 #34
About half. Can't cite. Makes sense. We sure know many are happy with Obamacare. , emmaverybo Nov 2019 #35
Gov. John Lynch talks about how Medicare for All will harm New Hampshire's economy. Gothmog Nov 2019 #39
What does being "happy with [your] insurance" even mean? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #49
Warren's plan did not pass muster Gothmog Nov 2019 #59
You are having an extremely difficult time staying on topic. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author Iggo Nov 2019 #32
Economist Mark Zandi who signed off on Warren's math calculations came out against her plan." Gothmog Nov 2019 #36
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