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highplainsdem

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16. Yes, and then Klobuchar went on to say that "no one has a monopoly on good ideas." That's HER
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 11:00 PM
Nov 2019

way of expressing what both Biden and Buttigieg meant by Warren's "my way or the highway" attitude.

I admire Warren's intelligence. But she does often project an academic elitism that I think is partly due to her debate background (even when you train to argue both sides of an issue, you train to argue them in each debate as if the other side has no real validity) and her background as a law professor lecturing students.

After one of the debates, I saw one of her supporters here post a message praising Warren for looking like a brilliant professor lecturing dumb students (the dumb students being the other candidates). Those weren't the exact words used, and I've been trying to find that post again but haven't used the right keywords, apparently. But that was the gist of it. Brilliant professor versus dumb students.

I was really struck by that post -- both by how perfectly it nailed an image Warren creates at times that IMO hurts her with people who aren't completely sold on her already, and by how unaware that Warren supporter was that coming across that way could be a problem for Warren.

And btw, if you don't think criticizing a "my way or the highway" attitude and saying "no one has a monopoly on good ideas" mean the same thing, here's part of a speech from President Obama:

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2013/07/25/remarks-president-economy-jacksonville-fl


So put out some plans. I don't claim to have a monopoly on every good idea. (Laughter.) I don't. I'm happy to steal good ideas from anybody, because I just want to make things work. And it may seem hard sometimes, but if we're willing to take a few bold steps -- if Washington will just shake off its complacency and set aside just this kind of constant gridlock and “my way or the highway” attitude, then our economy will be better a year from now, just like it's better now than it was last year. And it will be better five years from now. And it will be better 10 years from now.



In his essay posted on Medium, Biden made it clear he was talking about an elitism that believes it has a monopoly on good ideas:

Some call it the “my way or the highway” approach to politics. But it’s worse than that. It’s condescending to the millions of Democrats who have a different view.

It’s representative of an elitism that working and middle class people do not share: “We know best; you know nothing”. “If you were only as smart as I am you would agree with me.”



So you have three candidates who are all getting the same impression from Warren. (At least three.)
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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
It's probably no more ridiculous than her "running in the wrong primary" comment. TwilightZone Nov 2019 #1
Oh, adult tips BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #2
She basically called him a GOP for not supporting M4A...said he needed to run in the GOP primary. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #7
Oh but but...we're gonna pile on front runner...SAD!! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #8
Yep, He is the front runner and I think he is moving up... Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #31
Holding your own candidate to a lower standard than the other candidates is... LanternWaste Nov 2019 #61
You're right. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #99
That's for sure PatSeg Nov 2019 #17
Stop making sense PatSeg MustLoveBeagles Nov 2019 #39
Ha, ha, ha PatSeg Nov 2019 #50
I was trying to lighten the mood MustLoveBeagles Nov 2019 #66
Same here PatSeg Nov 2019 #68
This forum can be addicting MustLoveBeagles Nov 2019 #69
Oh my, both of them? PatSeg Nov 2019 #71
Yep. Back left leg on both of them MustLoveBeagles Nov 2019 #88
That is so bizarre PatSeg Nov 2019 #89
My Way or the Highway Warren kennetha Nov 2019 #3
Amy Klobuchar on Biden calling Warren's policies 'elitist:' 'I wouldn't use that word' BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #4
No, I wouldnt use "elitist". Just "unrealistic". oldsoftie Nov 2019 #5
Yes...it is but we all like unicorns and magic beads ...right??!! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #9
You do not understand how health insurance works. Jakes Progress Nov 2019 #75
Biden's plan is the ACA with public option and other improvements. betsuni Nov 2019 #76
But the ACA with a public option didn't pass Buzz cook Nov 2019 #77
It passed Congress with a public option. betsuni Nov 2019 #78
Biden's plan Jakes Progress Nov 2019 #91
Yes, Warren has shown her funding plan. 1/2 of it is a fairytale. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #86
Go ahead and trot out the Wall Street meme. Jakes Progress Nov 2019 #90
No, it ignores what most other countries do, which is tax almost EVERYONE. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #94
Ah. You have a magic plan. Let's hear it. Jakes Progress Nov 2019 #108
Its not magic at all. Its dealing with REALITY. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #109
You do know Jakes Progress Nov 2019 #111
Making up sources of revenue? Guess I fit right in with Warren! oldsoftie Nov 2019 #113
You are obviously avoiding actually having a point. Jakes Progress Nov 2019 #114
I'd trust Steve Rattner over Paul Krugman any day. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #115
That explains a lot. Jakes Progress Nov 2019 #116
Yes, I read it. It assumes too many things that cannot be assumed, which is Krugmans thing oldsoftie Nov 2019 #117
Ask Biden the same question. Jakes Progress Nov 2019 #118
If only she was as grounded as Joe BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #11
Actually, she is. beastie boy Nov 2019 #21
Oh no!!! The voice of sanity...heavens sakes....thank you!! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #45
You are very uninformed on the matter. Jakes Progress Nov 2019 #74
You are uninformed on reality. 5 trillion a year CANNOT be raised. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #87
Stop doing Wall Street's work. Jakes Progress Nov 2019 #92
No, you CANT refute every point. Fully 1/2 of her revenue projections are guesses. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #93
I see you never worked with budgets. Jakes Progress Nov 2019 #107
You will NOT cover more people for less when you cancel coverages that people LIKE oldsoftie Nov 2019 #110
Do you not know how Medicare works? Jakes Progress Nov 2019 #112
Yes, and then Klobuchar went on to say that "no one has a monopoly on good ideas." That's HER highplainsdem Nov 2019 #16
Democrats need to quit using right-wing PatSeg Nov 2019 #19
Exactly right, fire away, but try not to write Trump's lines for him BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #20
Exactly! PatSeg Nov 2019 #47
Bernie Sanders says "elite" all the time. betsuni Nov 2019 #24
Thank you, betsuni! This is BS AFTER the General Election on CBS Nov 14th.. Cha Nov 2019 #35
He says it constantly. I guess some people aren't very familiar with Bernie! betsuni Nov 2019 #38
Yes and I'm glad you brought it up because Cha Nov 2019 #40
Never! betsuni Nov 2019 #43
Boom! Skya Rhen Nov 2019 #44
Whoa, that's unsettling PatSeg Nov 2019 #48
He also doesn't call himself a Dem. Never won the Presidential primary, either. kcr Nov 2019 #72
I thought Biden used it in a "taste of your own medicine" kind of way. betsuni Nov 2019 #73
Sanders on CBS AFTER the General Election.. November 14th.. Cha Nov 2019 #37
Yeah PatSeg Nov 2019 #49
was going to say the same thing stopdiggin Nov 2019 #52
Spot on PatSeg Nov 2019 #58
Thanks for this! BlueMTexpat Nov 2019 #54
You're welcome! PatSeg Nov 2019 #59
So much this. It's a ready-made ad clip for tRump. JudyM Nov 2019 #62
I know PatSeg Nov 2019 #64
Isn't that what other candidates say as well, though? TCJ70 Nov 2019 #56
Precisely!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #80
First of all, she shouldn't call Democrats who don't agree with her as needing to run in a Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #6
Can't claim this but .. Biden is running against trump, everyone else is running against Joe Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #10
Very good point...love the smiley... Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #30
WILL YOU PEOPLE STOP PISSING ON EACH OTHER!!!!!! pangaia Nov 2019 #12
Hey, I discovered this lovely Scriabin piano concerto this week BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #13
I've heard that one long ago? pangaia Nov 2019 #15
I was thrilled to hear it BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #18
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Playing this one next week pangaia Nov 2019 #23
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Thank you, friend BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #27
Ah ha, funny you should mention that.. pangaia Nov 2019 #41
Spoiled brats indeed!! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #14
Thank you for your post and video clip MustLoveBeagles Nov 2019 #36
Lolololol pangaia Nov 2019 #42
Amy's a mean boss, Cory's mom wears combat boots MustLoveBeagles Nov 2019 #65
come to think of it... pangaia Nov 2019 #67
LOL MustLoveBeagles Nov 2019 #70
Why did Warren start this shit? redstateblues Nov 2019 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #28
Same here. eom BlueMTexpat Nov 2019 #55
What worked against Scott Brown in ultra-blue Massachusetts PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #32
Oh so true! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #46
If you dish out be prepared to receive or candidates FloridaBlues Nov 2019 #33
Warren will not ever stop fighting for Medicare for All. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #34
I like Joe Biden customerserviceguy Nov 2019 #51
Well... Mike Nelson Nov 2019 #53
Ridiculous is right!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #57
Biden "the senator from MBNA", lol Baclava Nov 2019 #60
"Elitism" is a shameful attack from someone who used to point out he was the first in his family muriel_volestrangler Nov 2019 #63
"Elizabeth Warren ripped Joe Biden's big Philly fund-raiser. Last year, she did an event with some.. Cha Nov 2019 #79
"swanky private fundraisers" betsuni Nov 2019 #82
Yes, EW accuses Biden of going to "Swanky private fundraisers.." Cha Nov 2019 #83
I'd bristle too. Insinuations that donors are buying influence and candidates are corrupt. betsuni Nov 2019 #84
Too Right.. Thanks for pointing that out!.. Cha Nov 2019 #85
Biden's hypocrisy is laughable WobblyDem Nov 2019 #81
A Harvard professor would be a member of the so called "elite" Renew Deal Nov 2019 #95
I agree with Joe Gothmog Nov 2019 #96
Whiny and untrue BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #97
I strongly disagree Gothmog Nov 2019 #98
He called her a liar again last night BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #100
No he did not -Watch the clip Gothmog Nov 2019 #101
Tell us the truth BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #103
There is a concept in poltics called vetting Gothmog Nov 2019 #104
Oh, a real world lecture...Joe's supposedly easy to pass plan will be fought just as hard as M4A BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #105
According to Jared Bernstein, a Public Option is a far cheaper alternative Gothmog Nov 2019 #106
Anyone wanna talk about who's all in for corporations? Anyone, anyone. gibraltar72 Nov 2019 #102
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