Democratic Primaries

boomer_wv

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33. yes it is

Tue Nov 5, 2019, 01:53 AM

Nov 2019

The entire point the article leads you to is that the democratic primary is leading candidates too far to the left to compete with Trump in these states, but overlooks the points that the most moderate candidate in the field, Biden, is leading and hasn't moved left at all. Arguing instead that his presence has only served to block other moderate candidates.

It also argues a flawed position that 2016 polling was fundamentally flawed in some way. It wasn't. The bias present in 2016 polling was smaller than that of most other cycles. We also shouldn't assume that the bias that will exist in polling this cycle will match 2016 in either magnitude of direction. We can't know that until after the election.

There's no reason to react more to this set of polls than any other polls we see right now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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New Poll Shows Democratic Candidates Have Been Living in a Fantasy World [View all] Celerity Nov 2019 OP

Scary. Turin_C3PO Nov 2019 #1

Why? boomer_wv Nov 2019 #2

the articles goes into the reasons, but you have to read it from the link, as we cannot post Celerity Nov 2019 #4

Yeah boomer_wv Nov 2019 #21

New York Magazine is hardly clickbait Celerity Nov 2019 #24

Yet boomer_wv Nov 2019 #25

non sequitur Celerity Nov 2019 #28

yes it is boomer_wv Nov 2019 #33

I'm not buying it. I've said a wet paper bag can beat tRump and still believe it. Joe941 Nov 2019 #3

not if we are seen (fairly or not) as too radical nt Celerity Nov 2019 #5

And so we need to frame the narrative. Joe941 Nov 2019 #6

well, we can start by disavowing all this MFA talk, it is electoral suicide nt Celerity Nov 2019 #9

Wrong. Mfa is really needed. Joe941 Nov 2019 #11

'needed' NEVER automatically equals actual manifestation into law nt Celerity Nov 2019 #16

That is a defeatist attitude. Joe941 Nov 2019 #17

actually it is the opposite. The surest way to win, to defeat Rump is to NOT adopt Celerity Nov 2019 #19

I don't understand where this idea that everyone hates MFA comes from. Not from surveys vsrazdem Nov 2019 #30

check back with me after half a billion USD is spent to mash it to dust in every conceivable way Celerity Nov 2019 #31

that link is over 14 months old stopdiggin Nov 2019 #34

Dems have the characters to - blow it, and somehow lose empedocles Nov 2019 #8

Those who fail to learn from history Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #39

Which is why this time we need to not make the mistake of not electing bernie! Joe941 Nov 2019 #43

Lol! Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #44

Experts and polls said Trump was too extreme to win in 2016 IronLionZion Nov 2019 #7

greed will latch onto hate, and hate onto greed, fairness and socio-economic betterment? not so much Celerity Nov 2019 #13

The Russians hacked into 22 different states. The polls dewsgirl Nov 2019 #35

A single poll? Andy823 Nov 2019 #10

It's one damn poll ritapria Nov 2019 #12

if we nominate a far left candidate, and if the economy stays fairly solid, and IF we bollocks up Celerity Nov 2019 #15

We don't need 2 Republican parties - one is more than enough ritapria Nov 2019 #18

Sorry, the US is too right-shifted to get elected on (let alone pass Celerity Nov 2019 #20

The tradition of FDR Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #40

I think once we settle on one candidate, most voters who are against Trump will vote for the Dem dawg day Nov 2019 #14

i've been afraid of this for months 0rganism Nov 2019 #22

And this time in 2012, Herman Cain was leading for the... SKKY Nov 2019 #23

It's crazy how much of a deal people are making this. Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #27

I'm sorry but this is kinda a bullshit meme. Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #26

"Normally, it is a mistake to overreact to... a single poll." John Fante Nov 2019 #29

LOL. It's one poll and so far it's an outlier. Downtown Hound Nov 2019 #32

I think that the analysis of the poll is off OKNancy Nov 2019 #36

a lot can happen chiefsanders Nov 2019 #37

no. MFM008 Nov 2019 #38

Interesting to read the responses to your OP. cwydro Nov 2019 #41

time after time, the media tells us that issues don't actually matter... for republicans. unblock Nov 2019 #42

This isn't at all shocking to me. Amimnoch Nov 2019 #45