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Celerity

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15. if we nominate a far left candidate, and if the economy stays fairly solid, and IF we bollocks up

Mon Nov 4, 2019, 09:26 PM

Nov 2019

impeachment, then Rump's chances skyrocket. I am not willing to play a far, radical (radical for the US, it is utterly bland and middle of the road here in the EU where I am at atm) left gambit on ditching Rump. I sympathise with the Sanderite agenda, I am FAR more left in my EU/UK politics than my American ones. The US system is far too right-shifted for a Sanderite agenda to get elected, let alone passed into law. It will take at least 2 decades (assuming that we do not win a majority of State legislative chambers on 2020, and then the Rethugs will do further massive RW gerrymandering (and voter suppression laws and systemic hi-jacking) based off of the 2020 census.) to undo the artificial RW gerrymandering. I took them almost around 40 to 50 years to fully build it out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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New Poll Shows Democratic Candidates Have Been Living in a Fantasy World [View all] Celerity Nov 2019 OP

Scary. Turin_C3PO Nov 2019 #1

Why? boomer_wv Nov 2019 #2

the articles goes into the reasons, but you have to read it from the link, as we cannot post Celerity Nov 2019 #4

Yeah boomer_wv Nov 2019 #21

New York Magazine is hardly clickbait Celerity Nov 2019 #24

Yet boomer_wv Nov 2019 #25

non sequitur Celerity Nov 2019 #28

yes it is boomer_wv Nov 2019 #33

I'm not buying it. I've said a wet paper bag can beat tRump and still believe it. Joe941 Nov 2019 #3

not if we are seen (fairly or not) as too radical nt Celerity Nov 2019 #5

And so we need to frame the narrative. Joe941 Nov 2019 #6

well, we can start by disavowing all this MFA talk, it is electoral suicide nt Celerity Nov 2019 #9

Wrong. Mfa is really needed. Joe941 Nov 2019 #11

'needed' NEVER automatically equals actual manifestation into law nt Celerity Nov 2019 #16

That is a defeatist attitude. Joe941 Nov 2019 #17

actually it is the opposite. The surest way to win, to defeat Rump is to NOT adopt Celerity Nov 2019 #19

I don't understand where this idea that everyone hates MFA comes from. Not from surveys vsrazdem Nov 2019 #30

check back with me after half a billion USD is spent to mash it to dust in every conceivable way Celerity Nov 2019 #31

that link is over 14 months old stopdiggin Nov 2019 #34

Dems have the characters to - blow it, and somehow lose empedocles Nov 2019 #8

Those who fail to learn from history Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #39

Which is why this time we need to not make the mistake of not electing bernie! Joe941 Nov 2019 #43

Lol! Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #44

Experts and polls said Trump was too extreme to win in 2016 IronLionZion Nov 2019 #7

greed will latch onto hate, and hate onto greed, fairness and socio-economic betterment? not so much Celerity Nov 2019 #13

The Russians hacked into 22 different states. The polls dewsgirl Nov 2019 #35

A single poll? Andy823 Nov 2019 #10

It's one damn poll ritapria Nov 2019 #12

if we nominate a far left candidate, and if the economy stays fairly solid, and IF we bollocks up Celerity Nov 2019 #15

We don't need 2 Republican parties - one is more than enough ritapria Nov 2019 #18

Sorry, the US is too right-shifted to get elected on (let alone pass Celerity Nov 2019 #20

The tradition of FDR Dem4Life1102 Nov 2019 #40

I think once we settle on one candidate, most voters who are against Trump will vote for the Dem dawg day Nov 2019 #14

i've been afraid of this for months 0rganism Nov 2019 #22

And this time in 2012, Herman Cain was leading for the... SKKY Nov 2019 #23

It's crazy how much of a deal people are making this. Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #27

I'm sorry but this is kinda a bullshit meme. Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #26

"Normally, it is a mistake to overreact to... a single poll." John Fante Nov 2019 #29

LOL. It's one poll and so far it's an outlier. Downtown Hound Nov 2019 #32

I think that the analysis of the poll is off OKNancy Nov 2019 #36

a lot can happen chiefsanders Nov 2019 #37

no. MFM008 Nov 2019 #38

Interesting to read the responses to your OP. cwydro Nov 2019 #41

time after time, the media tells us that issues don't actually matter... for republicans. unblock Nov 2019 #42

This isn't at all shocking to me. Amimnoch Nov 2019 #45