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Showing Original Post only (View all)New Poll Shows Democratic Candidates Have Been Living in a Fantasy World [View all]
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/11/poll-trump-beats-democrats-swing-state-biden-warren-sanders.htmlIn 2018, Democratic candidates waded into hostile territory and flipped 40 House districts, many of them moderate or conservative in their makeup. In almost every instance, their formula centered on narrowing their target profile by avoiding controversial positions, and focusing obsessively on Republican weaknesses, primarily Donald Trumps abuses of power and attempts to eliminate health insurance for millions of Americans. The Democratic presidential field has largely abandoned that model. Working from the premise that the country largely agrees with them on everything, or that agreeing with the majority of voters on issues is not necessary to win, the campaign has proceeded in blissful unawareness of the extremely high chance that Trump will win again.
A new batch of swing state polls from the New York Times ought to deliver a bracing shock to Democrats. The polls find that, in six swing states Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida, North Carolina, and Arizona Trump is highly competitive. He trails Joe Biden there by the narrowest of margins, and leads Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren.
Normally, it is a mistake to overreact to the findings of a single poll. In general, an outlier result should only marginally nudge our preexisting understanding of where public opinion stands. This case is different. To see why, you need to understand two interrelated flaws in the 2016 polling. First, they tended to under-sample white voters without college degrees. And this made them especially vulnerable to polling misses in a handful of states with disproportionately large numbers of white non-college voters. The Times found several months ago that Trump might well win 270 Electoral College votes even in the face of a larger national vote defeat than he suffered in 2016.
All this is to say that, if youve been relying on national polls for your picture of the race, youre probably living in la-la land. However broadly unpopular Trump may be, at the moment he is right on the cusp of victory. What about the fact Democrats crushed Trumps party in the midterms? The new Times polling finds many of those voters are swinging back. Almost two-thirds of the people who supported Trump in 2016, and then a Democrat in the 2018 midterms, plan to vote for Trump again in 2020.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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New Poll Shows Democratic Candidates Have Been Living in a Fantasy World [View all]
Celerity
Nov 2019
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the articles goes into the reasons, but you have to read it from the link, as we cannot post
Celerity
Nov 2019
#4
I'm not buying it. I've said a wet paper bag can beat tRump and still believe it.
Joe941
Nov 2019
#3
actually it is the opposite. The surest way to win, to defeat Rump is to NOT adopt
Celerity
Nov 2019
#19
I don't understand where this idea that everyone hates MFA comes from. Not from surveys
vsrazdem
Nov 2019
#30
check back with me after half a billion USD is spent to mash it to dust in every conceivable way
Celerity
Nov 2019
#31
greed will latch onto hate, and hate onto greed, fairness and socio-economic betterment? not so much
Celerity
Nov 2019
#13
if we nominate a far left candidate, and if the economy stays fairly solid, and IF we bollocks up
Celerity
Nov 2019
#15
I think once we settle on one candidate, most voters who are against Trump will vote for the Dem
dawg day
Nov 2019
#14