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Celerity

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33. Beyond that, if we want more progressives elected, we have to systematically undue the decades
Thu Oct 24, 2019, 04:31 AM
Oct 2019

of RW Rethug partisan gerrymandering that has created so so many artificially produced swing/pink/purple/red districts where is very hard for a prog to win. Now that the SCOTUS has been taken over by the RW and has just ruled again that partisan gerrymandering is legal (what a disastrous decision!) then pretty much the only way to do this is at state level by winning back the majority of the state legislative bodies. The 2020 state legislative body elections are SO key, as 2020 is not only a POTUS election and federal and state election year, but also a CENSUS year, and the states will draw new maps based off it that will potentially fuck us for a another 10 years.

The problem is that in the already Rethug-controlled states, those bodies not only gerrymander for the House elections at federal level, but they gerrymander as well for their very own bodies. It is as epic clusterfuck that has shifted the US electoral map and overall philosophical bent of the reps and senators at both federal and state level so far to the right that even moderate, centrist and Blue dog types and even many centre-left US DEMOCRATS (state reps, senators, federal reps and senators) would be on the rightward edge of many, many major centre right European parties. Even some of the 'far right' parties (mostly the ones who are populist and anti-immigration) are streets ahead of the US Democrats as a whole in terms of healthcare system platforms, etc etc.

Most all of the mainstream right-wing parties in most all of the advanced world would never dream (other than their most RW parts) of dismantling their universal healthcare schemes or taking away free or ultra low cost uni systems and instituting a S style system laden with 1.7 trillion USD in student debt (population-adjust of course), etc etc.

Hell, Warren would be (IF she kept her exact same stances she holds now) considered centre-right on many things. Bernie would be a completely bog standard, milquetoast social democrat (centre left), and actual socialists parties would NEVER let him in, unless he radically changed many of his stances much farther to the left. We (the US) live (I have mostly lived in the UK and the EU, and I am in the EU now, but have spent a few years back (where I was born and left to London as a baby) in Los Angeles) in such a SKEWED system.

For example, if someone tells you that massive numbers (I have even seen the outright insane claim of a majority) of Europeans, Aussies, Canadians, etc would swap their healthcare systems for the US model, well that person is, to be polite, fucking lying to your face. It is complete bollocks, period, end of story. The US political system (and many other parts of the overall socio-economic and cultural spheres) are utterly broken at a multiplicity of levels, including the basic definitions and actions of what is left and what is right, as well as the capture of the rule of law by not just Rumpian ultra-gaslighting and destruction of truth, but also by the corporatisation and buying of all things political.

I am nothing if not a very pragmatic 23 year old (my UK and EU politics are far to the left of my US politics (especially when viewed through the tragically skewed American political prism), simply due to the limited possibilities in the American system atm. Again this superstructure of limitation for US progressivism comes from the reasons listed above (and others too, that are beyond the scope of this already far too long reply) and, to bring it full circle and to a close, I also strive to be a realist, thus my outright lack of hope for (anytime soon) a working majority of 'progressives' in Congress and at a majority of state levels as well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
You could sing the same of bernie SterlingPound Oct 2019 #1
I've got my mind set on Joe.. got my mind set on Joe Peacetrain Oct 2019 #5
VoteBlueNoMatterWho SterlingPound Oct 2019 #7
Got my mind set on Joe!! Peacetrain Oct 2019 #8
in many cases 'progressive' is a general election loser (I do not think that is a good thing, but I Celerity Oct 2019 #31
If you want to hear that progressives are electible from our dem leaders and SterlingPound Oct 2019 #32
Beyond that, if we want more progressives elected, we have to systematically undue the decades Celerity Oct 2019 #33
Not to mention 100 years of anti progressive propaganda on all levels of our society SterlingPound Oct 2019 #34
Talking about raining on a parade... emmaverybo Oct 2019 #15
I made my third contribution last night - all small, but every little bit helps.... George II Oct 2019 #2
Me too Peacetrain Oct 2019 #3
AWESOME song by me mate, George Dennis Donovan Oct 2019 #4
I was at Lowes and heard that the song coming off someones headset Peacetrain Oct 2019 #6
That's the thing. Brings us a little happiness. And goodness knows, Joe doesn't get any media emmaverybo Oct 2019 #16
The fact that Joe is in the race makes me so hopeful.. yep that the word emmaverybo Peacetrain Oct 2019 #20
Yay for happy hope! I got my mind set too and that's our primary prerogative Peacetrain. emmaverybo Oct 2019 #22
I contributed also iamateacher Oct 2019 #9
I got my contribution out also.. Peacetrain Oct 2019 #12
After the Taylor hearings today, Biden might've accidentally already accomplished what he set to do. phleshdef Oct 2019 #10
Hubby and I were talking about that... how Biden got the better of Trump Peacetrain Oct 2019 #13
I've got MY mind SweepPicker Oct 2019 #11
Me too... in the end, we should all have our minds set on BLUE Peacetrain Oct 2019 #14
That's good. We all do. But does no harm to get some morale going among supporters especially emmaverybo Oct 2019 #17
I'm all in for Joe!!! quickesst Oct 2019 #18
That is really fun. No more years LOL ! You Go, Joe! emmaverybo Oct 2019 #19
thought everybody.... quickesst Oct 2019 #23
Love it, love it , love it Peacetrain Oct 2019 #21
Thanks Peacetrain... quickesst Oct 2019 #24
I support Joe because the man he is when the cameras aren't looking. Gothmog Oct 2019 #25
Thank you for posting.... that is such a great story!! Peacetrain Oct 2019 #26
I won't stop fighting for the hardworking Americans who make our country run every single day. Gothmog Oct 2019 #27
Biden's support, base, and momentum are stronger than ever before! Gothmog Oct 2019 #28
I am sitting here smiling ear to ear... Peacetrain Oct 2019 #29
I am glad that Biden is doing well Gothmog Oct 2019 #30
@JoeBiden Leads by 10 in New @McLaughlinAssoc Poll Gothmog Oct 2019 #35
Awesome!!! Peacetrain Oct 2019 #36
This makes me smile Gothmog Oct 2019 #37
I always thought. ... TrunKated Oct 2019 #38
I am looking forward to Sunday's interview of Joe Gothmog Oct 2019 #39
Me too! WA-03 Democrat Oct 2019 #40
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