Democratic Primaries

True Dough

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155. A few of us have been saying this for a quite a while

Reply to LeftTurn3623 (Original post)

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 06:36 PM

Oct 2019

and we even have a "hide" or two for daring to utter such words!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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The hard truth about Biden and I hate saying it [View all] LeftTurn3623 Oct 2019 OP

VP Biden will be ok. Iliyah Oct 2019 #1

Former VP, the commentator was right, Bernie looked sharper Baclava Oct 2019 #21

Commentators only True Blue American Oct 2019 #32

Everybody only gives their opinions.. whathehell Oct 2019 #40

They can also be as bad. True Blue American Oct 2019 #49

Did anyone say otherwise? whathehell Oct 2019 #58

My opinions in this thread have to do with True Blue American Oct 2019 #62

Uh huh whathehell Oct 2019 #150

Here's the reason Bernie looked sharper: luvtheGWN Oct 2019 #51

Plus, he's had a couple of weeks off the campaign trail to rest. Texin Oct 2019 #56

It also seems like his questions are not gotchas Dream Girl Oct 2019 #77

Amen, he could just carrying a recorder in his pocket and hit play. redstatebluegirl Oct 2019 #87

x1000! peggysue2 Oct 2019 #90

He Says the Same Things... McKim Oct 2019 #92

that is the thing I admire about Bernie The Mouth Oct 2019 #118

+100 InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #152

I guess, when Bernie's right, he's right... that never changes, true!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #151

Well when you've been saying the same thing over and over and over again for years I'm sure he UniteFightBack Oct 2019 #161

Yea, but I don't want OK. kacekwl Oct 2019 #50

I don't know if it is a matter of him "not having it" anymore. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #2

Agree with you. zentrum Oct 2019 #3

Opening up clogged arteries in your heart will do that sdfernando Oct 2019 #44

Fascinating. zentrum Oct 2019 #139

No, I think I will just donate...and the piling up on Biden makes me more determined to Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #4

sorry LeftTurn3623 Oct 2019 #15

+1 myohmy2 Oct 2019 #26

100% SterlingPound Oct 2019 #60

Which elephant are you talking about. You name about four. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #86

You see it that way because you want to...and it is piling on...he has a different style than Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #162

That's strange. cwydro Oct 2019 #42

I've noticed that StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #78

Your candidate has pretty much got a pass and has not been attacked like Biden has been Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #160

Oh, Jeebus, are they starting back up with that again? SMC22307 Oct 2019 #171

Do not True Blue American Oct 2019 #52

Very true...we must get rid of the orange idiot. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #159

She's actually trolling trump on fb. cwydro Oct 2019 #54

I do not believe she will win the electoral college...she has my vote in a general of course but Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #157

Your vote is yours, and I don't pretend to have any ownership over it ramen Oct 2019 #127

I have never 'taken my ball and gone home'...I vote blue no matter who in a general...but MFA Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #158

I misunderstood the last couple sentence fragments, ramen Oct 2019 #164

I probably should have been more clear...no problem... Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #169

I agree... Mike Nelson Oct 2019 #5

you know LeftTurn3623 Oct 2019 #7

I think one of the reasons this has... Mike Nelson Oct 2019 #12

Very fond of him as VP and before he announced I had thought he would be the one Autumn Oct 2019 #6

I liked Steyer last night, too, Autumn. JudyM Oct 2019 #141

Yes he has some really good ideas. I watch his videos on FB. He's a very good person Autumn Oct 2019 #154

So why are you backing Steyer? ehrnst Oct 2019 #144

Your concern is noted. highplainsdem Oct 2019 #8

This is one of those responses that I don't think is worthy of DU. If... LAS14 Oct 2019 #18

I think you should let people respond Cha Oct 2019 #22

I will continue to make a case for rational discussion as contrasted with ad hominem interaction. n LAS14 Oct 2019 #29

People don't like to be told what to do. I know Cha Oct 2019 #31

Neither do I True Blue American Oct 2019 #57

Nobody does.. I can't believe someone's Cha Oct 2019 #95

Aloha back. True Blue American Oct 2019 #136

Lol, one of the posters you're defending often tells others how and what to post. cwydro Oct 2019 #166

Yet you told the poster what they shouldn't be doing Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #91

OMG LOL RandiFan1290 Oct 2019 #142

They'd rather just insinuate that you're a troll. Cobalt Violet Oct 2019 #38

Thank you. cwydro Oct 2019 #167

How does one pronounce cwydro? Is it Welsh? nt LAS14 Oct 2019 #172

Thank you. True Blue American Oct 2019 #36

If you can't tell the difference between what the op said Lordquinton Oct 2019 #145

Perhaps the "Biden is losing it folks" snowybirdie Oct 2019 #9

Stuttering is not the same as getting facts wrong. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2019 #28

Biden did not get the facts wrong! True Blue American Oct 2019 #39

His stuttering issue is not the problem. pangaia Oct 2019 #47

I listened to the debate this morning. True Blue American Oct 2019 #65

+1000 This needs to be said FakeNoose Oct 2019 #80

Hard truth? Hard opinion. Everyone has one LakeArenal Oct 2019 #10

Yeah, it's "hard opinion" and the OP is Cha Oct 2019 #73

Pura Vida as they say in Costa Rica LakeArenal Oct 2019 #82

Interesting that DU is one of the only forums that thinks EW did so well Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #99

They're proud she dodged from what I'm reading.. not sure why. Cha Oct 2019 #107

Oh don't ya thou!! Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #114

Joe was laying out a whole list of facts True Blue American Oct 2019 #120

Aww, so sorry cwydro Oct 2019 #133

I am not sorry. True Blue American Oct 2019 #137

Lol. cwydro Oct 2019 #138

Funny, it seems like DU is one of the few places that thinks Warren didn't do well Lordquinton Oct 2019 #146

He's had stuttering problems his whole life. W_HAMILTON Oct 2019 #11

+1 dalton99a Oct 2019 #14

I hope you are right LeftTurn3623 Oct 2019 #19

Again, thank you. True Blue American Oct 2019 #41

It looked like he knew what he wanted to say, but couldn't quite get it out at times Martin Eden Oct 2019 #53

I have. Both stayed articulate, but had problems with simple daily processes, losing stuff, short emmaverybo Oct 2019 #85

*That* is a sign of aging -- not full blown dementia or Alzheimer's. W_HAMILTON Oct 2019 #100

With dementia, persistent short term memory problems, inability to follow steps in a process, emmaverybo Oct 2019 #130

I think we are seeing latent signs of his stuttering ALBliberal Oct 2019 #13

Yep. And he will not be in a group debate with Putin. His speeches and writings have been A+, emmaverybo Oct 2019 #89

I attended 2 of Joe's campaign appearances in January 2008, just ahead bullwinkle428 Oct 2019 #16

Vitality and mental competence don't last forever. We all age. We age in a variety of ways. Eyeball_Kid Oct 2019 #37

you seem very concerned ! stonecutter357 Oct 2019 #17

See my reply #18. LAS14 Oct 2019 #20

No , I think i will just put you on Full Ignore and Auto-trash by Keyword ! stonecutter357 Oct 2019 #23

Aloha, stonecutter! Cha Oct 2019 #25

Hi cha ! stonecutter357 Oct 2019 #30

lol Cha Oct 2019 #34

... Scurrilous Oct 2019 #84

Good idea.. because it's never right to drag down our dem candidates Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #102

+1 myohmy2 Oct 2019 #24

He's competing against Democrats. MaryMagdaline Oct 2019 #27

:) True Blue American Oct 2019 #43

That's a problem for me Jarqui Oct 2019 #46

I mostly agree with that. LuvNewcastle Oct 2019 #101

I think u r correct on this. wnylib Oct 2019 #131

Just read the transcript of any Trump speech! maddiemom Oct 2019 #72

Well... you're right. Eyeball_Kid Oct 2019 #33

Welcome to DU! You must have been watching a different debate than I did because Joe emulatorloo Oct 2019 #35

Except... phandancer917 Oct 2019 #48

It was pretty clear he wants to increase capital gains tax, he even stated the percentage of emulatorloo Oct 2019 #64

I believe Biden said he wanted to double the CAP Gains Tax Rate ritapria Oct 2019 #109

Which one? Mosby Oct 2019 #123

Yes, he did! Again, DU seems to be one of the only forums that doesn't think so- Amy was great Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #110

Though you allege concern LanternWaste Oct 2019 #45

you want a sample LeftTurn3623 Oct 2019 #134

And still... simply anecdotal and unsupported interpretive inference. LanternWaste Oct 2019 #135

As I said in another thread kennetha Oct 2019 #55

trump: "Joe Biden has truly lost his fastball" - August 9 crazytown Oct 2019 #69

+1 emulatorloo Oct 2019 #71

It's Not Wrong to Say It panfluteman Oct 2019 #59

Someone who has been active on the national and international.. Kahuna7 Oct 2019 #61

So make him an adviser SterlingPound Oct 2019 #67

He voted for the Iraq war. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2019 #79

Yep Lordquinton Oct 2019 #147

I'll see your mahalo and raise you one hakuna matata Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2019 #148

which is what he will draw upon in his daily duties and interactions as Prez, not some dazzling emmaverybo Oct 2019 #94

You: " I hate to say this cause I like Biden"? dubyadiprecession Oct 2019 #63

:) True Blue American Oct 2019 #66

same mis-direction as always, there will be plenty of money for Biden as he brings a huge big tent beachbumbob Oct 2019 #68

Indeed! Sanders far out raised Hillary in '16. Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #111

Now I have to donate to Joe again Green Line Oct 2019 #70

I'm 100% with you. Have felt this since pnwest Oct 2019 #74

Well, Ha! blue-wave Oct 2019 #75

And he has from his launch, which is why Trump fears him. emmaverybo Oct 2019 #96

And he made that very clear, especially when it comes to foreign policy Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #112

Warren would eat trump alive on the stage Lordquinton Oct 2019 #149

Your concern and empathy towards Biden brought tears to my eyes PhoenixDem Oct 2019 #76

lol Cha Oct 2019 #88

You're right vlyons Oct 2019 #81

He may have been faster on his feet in a debate in the past, The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #83

I agree about Joe Biden and I am not happy with Elizabeth Warren for other reasons. Chemisse Oct 2019 #93

Me too! Amy and Pete were so spot on!! Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #113

./? raging moderate Oct 2019 #97

I agree with you Beringia Oct 2019 #98

The fact that he's not buying ads to target younger voters pretty much sums it up lettucebe Oct 2019 #103

I agree jcgoldie Oct 2019 #104

Biden 'had it', greatly, in 2008, but Dem primary voters paved the road empedocles Oct 2019 #105

Joe Biden's alleged ability awesomerwb1 Oct 2019 #106

I agree. He struggles to find words when he answers. jalan48 Oct 2019 #108

I think it has to do with debate prep jcgoldie Oct 2019 #115

If he's our candidate the problem will be magnified. jalan48 Oct 2019 #116

Ya sew doubts about our best candidates bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #117

+1. We've seen this movie, and we know how it ends. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2019 #121

But when one hates to do it, but tells the "hard truth" anyway? Doesn't that kind of heroic emmaverybo Oct 2019 #126

I'm not worried about Joe Biden Baked Potato Oct 2019 #119

neither am I.. Peacetrain Oct 2019 #124

This message was self-deleted by its author Peacetrain Oct 2019 #122

I did not watch last night Katinfl Oct 2019 #125

I met Biden at a fundraiser after the Houston Debate and I disagree Gothmog Oct 2019 #128

If the low-information voters, indie voters and a small % of R voters willing to vote D stopbush Oct 2019 #129

My deplorable co worker said he could 'handle' Biden. I said Oh come on nobody else on the debate UniteFightBack Oct 2019 #163

"Debating" on a stage with 11 other people has nothing to do with being President! ElementaryPenguin Oct 2019 #132

Correct, we are electing a president, not a debating team coach. totodeinhere Oct 2019 #143

Thank you for backing up your opionion with supporting reasons. Joe941 Oct 2019 #140

Why does the MSM make age a factor for Warren, Sanders and Biden but nobody says doc03 Oct 2019 #153

A few of us have been saying this for a quite a while True Dough Oct 2019 #155

I supported Biden in 2007, saw him in person and motorcity Oct 2019 #156

I too sometimes forget what I'm saying mid-sentence if it's a complex argument BUT mahina Oct 2019 #165

It hasn't PDittie Oct 2019 #168

I think you are wrong and consider this. Joe is still the front runner despite some pollsters and Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #170

I was wondering if this was discussed here. redqueen Oct 2019 #173