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In reply to the discussion: Fact check: Kamala Harris makes false claim about Trump and auto jobs [View all]Princetonian
(1,501 posts)6. Yes. I agree with Nate Silver - and also Rolling Stone.
It just shows, says Hawaii congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard, that launching a smear campaign is the only response to the truth.
Gabbard, 38, burst into headlines after a July 31 Democratic Party presidential debate, when she went after California Senator Kamala Harriss record as Attorney General of the State of California. The smear campaign refers to the bizarre avalanche of negative press that ensued, as reporters seemed to circle wagons around a Harris, a party favorite... backed by nearly $25 million in campaign funds, Gabbard instantly became the subject of a slew of negative leaks, tweets, and press reports. Many of these continued the appalling recent Democratic Party tradition of denouncing anything it doesnt like as treasonous aid to foreign enemies.
Harris national press chair Ian Sams tweeted, Yo, you love Assad!, a reference to Gabbards controversial visit with Syrian president Bashar al-Assad in 2017. He then tweeted a link to an insidious February 2 NBC News story, which asserted that Gabbards campaign was the beneficiary of Russian bots.
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The New York Times wrote Gabbard believes the United States has wrought horror on the world, and that critics have called her actions un-American. Politico denounced Gabbards Star Wars bar scene-like following and hissed that the Daily Stormer was a supporter (Gabbard has repeatedly condemned white nationalism and sworn off their support). On The View, co-host Sunny Hostin called Gabbard a Trojan Horse, while Ana Navarro viciously insinuated Gabbard, an Iraq veteran, was part of a foreign column.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/podcast-tulsi-gabbard-kamala-harris-syria-iraq-870003/
Gabbard, 38, burst into headlines after a July 31 Democratic Party presidential debate, when she went after California Senator Kamala Harriss record as Attorney General of the State of California. The smear campaign refers to the bizarre avalanche of negative press that ensued, as reporters seemed to circle wagons around a Harris, a party favorite... backed by nearly $25 million in campaign funds, Gabbard instantly became the subject of a slew of negative leaks, tweets, and press reports. Many of these continued the appalling recent Democratic Party tradition of denouncing anything it doesnt like as treasonous aid to foreign enemies.
Harris national press chair Ian Sams tweeted, Yo, you love Assad!, a reference to Gabbards controversial visit with Syrian president Bashar al-Assad in 2017. He then tweeted a link to an insidious February 2 NBC News story, which asserted that Gabbards campaign was the beneficiary of Russian bots.
<snip>
The New York Times wrote Gabbard believes the United States has wrought horror on the world, and that critics have called her actions un-American. Politico denounced Gabbards Star Wars bar scene-like following and hissed that the Daily Stormer was a supporter (Gabbard has repeatedly condemned white nationalism and sworn off their support). On The View, co-host Sunny Hostin called Gabbard a Trojan Horse, while Ana Navarro viciously insinuated Gabbard, an Iraq veteran, was part of a foreign column.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/podcast-tulsi-gabbard-kamala-harris-syria-iraq-870003/
For the record, in the service of truth over lies:
".... Gabbard agreed to meet with Trump to make her case for a noninterventionist foreign policy. A few months later, she flew to Syria and met with Bashar al-Assad, who is presiding over a brutal civil war; she and he seemed to agree that the United States should not intervene to stop it."
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/06/what-does-tulsi-gabbard-believe
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/11/06/what-does-tulsi-gabbard-believe
There have been exceptions in the print media, though, who seem less starstruck than talking heads. I have yet to read a debate fact check that refuted Gabbard's criticisms of Harris' history as DA and AG. In fact, Harris herself and her campaign has not refuted a single claim either, preferring to Attack The Messenger instead.
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Fact check: Kamala Harris makes false claim about Trump and auto jobs [View all]
Princetonian
Aug 2019
OP
How can you fact check something that hasn't happened yet? Auto companies have been known to...
brush
Aug 2019
#5
She's not claiming that something will happen, rather that EXPERTS SAY it will.
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#93
Harris misfired and made false claims twice in a month. The OP is a quote from CNN's front page.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#8
It's a CNN Fact Check which is allowed here. Did you bother to read the article?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#10
this thread is the same politics I've seen you complain about against Biden, vociferously
bigtree
Aug 2019
#11
Apples and oranges: this is about Harris being wrong on the FACTS not an instance of malapropism.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#15
If Joe was wrong on the FACTS and made two false claims about Trump and the auto industry...
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#27
no, not your new favorite word (which is an inaccurate description of recent mistatements by Biden)
bigtree
Aug 2019
#36
Are we going to argue how many angels can dance on the head of a pin next?
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#45
Harris made two false claims in interviews a month apart and misattributed two separate sources...
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#46
the WaPo fact checks aren't instances of Biden merely mispeaking. Those were apparent on their face
bigtree
Aug 2019
#48
Your whataboutism is noted. This CNN Fact Check was issued yesterday and is timely front page news.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#51
What's despicable the amount this thread has been about ATTACKING The Messenger.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#65
I respectfully disagree that this CNN Fact Check which is front page news is anything but unbiased.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#55
I'm fairly certain no one has cared to post the at least THREE WaPo/Biden fact checks since May
bigtree
Aug 2019
#58
I respectfully disagree w/your characterization. Since you have complaints, contact CNN Fact Check.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#60
There are an abundance of things to attack Trump on. We should not make up ones that aren't true.
thesquanderer
Aug 2019
#90
Again, apples and oranges: this is about Harris being wrong on the FACTS not...
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#21
Please show me where this CNN Fact Check does anything but correct both of Harris' false claims...
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#19
Harris is not infallible, is she? I am puzzled at the outrage over a simple CNN Fact Check.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#30
Thank goodness you didn't let this slip by. Maybe you can call these media outlets and ask them to
MrsCoffee
Aug 2019
#26
I am going with Nate Silver and Rolling Stone on this. Your mileage may differ.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#35
FYI, I volunteered for Senator Obama in 2007-2008 and stood behind him on the risers at HyVee.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#68
says the poster who couldn't resist posting an article carrying Trump water against a Dem candidate
bigtree
Aug 2019
#78
This is the title of this CNN FactCheck which is on the front page. I did not change it.
Princetonian
Aug 2019
#69