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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Wed Mar 13, 2019, 02:40 PM Mar 2019

Beto O'Rourke is not the progressive some imagine [View all]

by Elizabeth Bruenig


In the meantime, though, we have the national election to think about, and when it comes to national politics, O’Rourke is plainly uninspiring.

As Zaid Jilani pointed out at Current Affairs, O’Rourke’s congressional voting record signals skepticism about progressive priorities. “While the Democratic base is coalescing around single-payer health care and free college, O’Rourke sponsored neither House bill,” Jilani wrote, “During his time in Congress, he never joined the Congressional Progressive Caucus.” Instead, O’Rourke is a member of the New Democrat Coalition, a centrist caucus with Clintonian views on health care, education and trade.

Where it comes to Medicare-for-all, O’Rourke has been carefully unclear about his stance: A Politico article from July notes that, at least for a time, he had sworn off using the terms “single payer” or “Medicare-for-all,” instead using the less-specific, policy-neutral phrase “universal, guaranteed, high-quality health care for all.”

His campaign website remains unclear, stating that he aims for achieving universal health care coverage “whether it be through a single payer system, a dual system, or otherwise.”

O’Rourke’s other progressive-ish policy positions tend to follow along these lines. While some progressives, rallied by talk of a Green New Deal, have argued for higher taxes on oil and gas company profits, fossil fuel lobbyists to be banned from working in the White House and a whole-economy overhaul slotting Americans into jobs producing carbon-neutral infrastructure, O’Rourke’s statements on energy have been surprisingly thin. He has called the decision between oil and gas and renewable energy sources “a false choice” and proposes on his campaign website mainly to rejoin the Paris climate accord, empower the Environmental Protection Agency and enact energy reform.


https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-beto-orourke-not-progressive-enough-1207-20181206-story.html
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Who is this "some"? TwilightZone Mar 2019 #1
He's the brother of Trump's pal, everyone...... getagrip_already Mar 2019 #51
He mached his district well. Scruffy1 Mar 2019 #149
That's fine... Beto is entitled to his views. But, voters don't have to accept them. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #180
The author grasped at straws to write that. RandySF Mar 2019 #2
Elizabeth Breunig is a Bernie supporter. octoberlib Mar 2019 #35
Yep dalton99a Mar 2019 #47
Not surprised. George II Mar 2019 #70
Thats good news................. Old Vet Mar 2019 #111
Bernie and his supporters are terrified of Beto NastyRiffraff Mar 2019 #144
Sounds like a Bernie-ite- Beto will definitely take a chunk of Bernie fans redstateblues Mar 2019 #3
Not hardly with views like that workinclasszero Mar 2019 #8
I guess that sanders supporters are nervous and so it is time to attack Beto again Gothmog Mar 2019 #13
Naw all the cool kids around here call it vetting workinclasszero Mar 2019 #15
Have you met Carnival Cruz? Do you know how Texas GOP operate? Gothmog Mar 2019 #16
Have you seen Bernie's taxes? LakeArenal Mar 2019 #41
Joe's been vetted for decades and Beto was heavily vetted in his race vs. Cruz. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #44
Obama was satisfied with Joe Gothmog Mar 2019 #75
He vetted him for VP, not P. And when Joe ran for President, Obama didn't pnwmom Mar 2019 #103
Obama made no choice in 2016 Gothmog Mar 2019 #105
Biden ran for President in 1988 and lost to Dukakis, pnwmom Mar 2019 #106
President Obama vetted Joe and that is good enough for me Gothmog Mar 2019 #126
Most people only know Joe as President Obama VP workinclasszero Mar 2019 #100
Nope. Biden has been a national figure for decades, even from the time he was first elected.... George II Mar 2019 #125
Projection. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #136
President Obama vetted Joe and that is sufficient for most real Democrats Gothmog Mar 2019 #147
Biden's positions will seem very different now. sfwriter Mar 2019 #134
"Vetted"? Where are the tax returns that were promised three years ago? George II Mar 2019 #73
Asking for financial transparency isn't an "attack" though. emulatorloo Mar 2019 #89
Today would be a great day for sanders to release his tax returns Gothmog Mar 2019 #148
Yeah we are attacking him workinclasszero Mar 2019 #142
I am amused that sanders supporters are so terrified of Beto Gothmog Mar 2019 #146
BTW, I just donated to Beto Gothmog Mar 2019 #150
Will you be correcting this mistake at some point? Renew Deal Mar 2019 #153
Nervous?! Hardly!! Good one though... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #181
No they won't. Beto is the real deal. George II Mar 2019 #72
Is Beto in favor of Medicare for all? workinclasszero Mar 2019 #101
Gotta love these circular firing squads going on, Geez Old Vet Mar 2019 #112
"I don't know." TwilightZone Mar 2019 #138
The hemming and hawing by Beto on these issues tells me everything I need to know. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #182
Not as brutal as for those who have to answer questions about missing votes, missing tax returns, lapucelle Mar 2019 #139
I don't think so. A compelling argument can be made against Medicare for All. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #158
Health Care is costly now. BlueWI Mar 2019 #170
Wrong...people who have workplace insurance would pay more...there are no family plans on Medicare. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #171
Nothing wrong. BlueWI Mar 2019 #173
I think our system needs to be fixed with a lowering of medicare age and a public option. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #174
I agree in part. BlueWI Mar 2019 #175
No Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #17
"It's like deja vu all over again." George II Mar 2019 #76
I think that's why some are getting verrrry nervous! George II Mar 2019 #68
lol shanny Mar 2019 #91
He hasn't impressed me Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #4
Well yeah I'm voting for the dem candidate workinclasszero Mar 2019 #9
Not at all. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #183
He's a pretty moderate Democrat, but he's young and has, you know, "charisma." MineralMan Mar 2019 #5
And the tooth cleaning video was so inspiring! Tipperary Mar 2019 #7
That's my feeling: he didn't win the Senat seat in Texas Merlot Mar 2019 #45
So? He's a Democrat in Texas, an uphill climb trying to unseat an incumbent republican.... George II Mar 2019 #85
Biden nor Harris nor Sanders will carry Texas. lynintenn Mar 2019 #54
I don't think any Democrat was going to win in Texas. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #80
Cruz isn't the president. Amimnoch Mar 2019 #116
But, but, he can skateboard! HopeAgain Mar 2019 #6
I agree Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #10
All I know is he pledged to "Work with the other side to get things done" Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #18
Ha! NurseJackie Mar 2019 #19
Oooops! Thanks for enlightening Cha Mar 2019 #24
Bazinga! sheshe2 Mar 2019 #30
I know, right? NurseJackie Mar 2019 #32
I see what you did there. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #33
Here's exactly what Sanders said. No zinger, sorry Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #43
LOL! NurseJackie Mar 2019 #49
Working with the Republicans is a disaster because Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #50
Riiiiight. I know double standards when I see them. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #58
So you believe it is possible to work with Trump Republicans Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #59
I said no such thing and you know it. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #60
It isn't hypocrisy Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #61
Yes it is. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #62
I dig how you hold the same action to two different standards. LanternWaste Mar 2019 #166
You mean like this? ehrnst Mar 2019 #168
Sanders praises Trump's meetings with Kim Jong Un Cha Mar 2019 #66
I remember that. Disgusting. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #67
Yes, everyone got it.. that it Cha Mar 2019 #71
Sanders voted against Russian sanctions too forklift Mar 2019 #108
BS couldn't be bothered to vote for the Magnitsky Act.. Cha Mar 2019 #109
He conveniently didn't show up forklift Mar 2019 #110
Excellently put NJ !!! Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #52
Sanders praises Trump's meetings with Kim Jong Un Cha Mar 2019 #65
HIGH FIVE Jackie! Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 #86
Working with the other side is how the political world works. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #20
And when the other side are fascists who never compromise, ever Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #21
I don't know - ask your candidate. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #22
Bernie was very specific, but nice try Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #26
Yep. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #31
Thanks HBS Power 2 the People Mar 2019 #34
He was very specifically wrong about what Trump tapped into. Garrett78 Mar 2019 #38
He was very specific when he made the statement at hand Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #56
I'm referring to this statement: Garrett78 Mar 2019 #96
Well, he was completely wrong about why people voted for Trump. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #39
And the statement at hand is not what the person I replied to said it was Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #57
Sure, it was. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #82
Really? When did he do that, and in what context? George II Mar 2019 #83
Fwiw...I was around him a lot in Texas. He is Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #53
Lacking any evidence to support it, I'd allege the same... LanternWaste Mar 2019 #165
I've got no problem with him based on the information I have. David__77 Mar 2019 #11
Lots of similarities to Sanders. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #12
The differences are not as great as Happy Adjusters prefer to believe Awsi Dooger Mar 2019 #14
"Happy Adjusters" TwilightZone Mar 2019 #28
I'm beginning to get this feeling... OilemFirchen Mar 2019 #23
lol@neo-progressives.. Cha Mar 2019 #27
The increased attacks on him and Biden over the last few days tell me the same thing. George II Mar 2019 #84
I agree...Beto is my second choice. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #159
I wish we could choose three or four this early. I have it narrowed down to: George II Mar 2019 #161
I will vote for any candidate in a general. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #162
Its not that I don't like some that I've tossed, I just don't think they'd be strong enough... George II Mar 2019 #163
I believe only Beto or Biden can win a general so I won't vote for any others in the primary. Ohio Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #169
*ALL* that matters is whether a candidate can beat Trump. scheming daemons Mar 2019 #25
+1000 Thekaspervote Mar 2019 #64
+2000 mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #97
Yes Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #99
I enthusiastically supported him for his Senate run femmedem Mar 2019 #29
What makes you think Buttigieg can defeat Trump? BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #63
At this point I'm not making my choice on electability. femmedem Mar 2019 #77
What I've seen of Pete so far has been very impressive. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #92
awwwwwwwwwww brandnewday2009 Mar 2019 #36
Isn't Bruenig an active Sanders supporter? RandySF Mar 2019 #37
Big time. dalton99a Mar 2019 #48
Yes, very similar to Sirota. Pro-Sanders opinion piece writer. emulatorloo Mar 2019 #88
And Josh Voorhees: dalton99a Mar 2019 #98
Given the Long Duration of the Campaign, There Will Be Sufficient Time to Vet all of the Candidates dlk Mar 2019 #40
Biden/Beto 2020 LakeArenal Mar 2019 #42
Two white guys? Not sure how well that would be received this time. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #121
Not different to me. I'm color blind. LakeArenal Mar 2019 #129
Nobody is color blind. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #143
It's an issue that is based on color. LakeArenal Mar 2019 #154
If it makes people stay home that will suck. Just Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #140
I bet Beto releases his taxes what do you think? jcgoldie Mar 2019 #46
I think so too.... Pachamama Mar 2019 #133
And bet he pays a higher percentage than Romney Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2019 #141
but he was 'born to it' bigtree Mar 2019 #55
Why are you posting negative "opinion" pieces about Beto O'Rouke? George II Mar 2019 #69
Probably because anybody watching Beto launch his campaign realize that many of the Bernie support Pachamama Mar 2019 #135
One of the biggest knocks I've seen on him is that he's "young and charismatic", like that's bad! George II Mar 2019 #137
The Sanders people will now gang attack forklift Mar 2019 #74
Will Beto show his taxes?? awesomerwb1 Mar 2019 #78
I'm sure he will. Why do you ask? George II Mar 2019 #81
Because I want all the candidates to do the same. awesomerwb1 Mar 2019 #122
Getting a whiff of fear in one of the camps redstateblues Mar 2019 #79
Happened with Harris a bit ago, and Biden in the last few days, this is the second time with Beto emulatorloo Mar 2019 #94
Sadly it's more of just a whiff. George II Mar 2019 #128
Beto pamdb Mar 2019 #87
Heavily biased. Propaganda. Should be banned. lancelyons Mar 2019 #90
Are you serious? workinclasszero Mar 2019 #104
It could've been published in a Vatican publication awesomerwb1 Mar 2019 #131
It's never too early to start the purity tests SFnomad Mar 2019 #93
Anyone aiming at Dems rather than the fat, lying, treasonous racist, is not a Dem. Hassler Mar 2019 #95
I don't care. I care about whether he can beat Trump. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #102
Beto is going to vacuum all the millennials away forklift Mar 2019 #107
I think so too. Good bye youth vote. All that will be left are some angry populist CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #115
Yikes... Mike Nelson Mar 2019 #113
He will have MFM008 Mar 2019 #114
I hope Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #118
The opinion author and her husband are both Socialists so OKNancy Mar 2019 #117
How does one imagine a progressive MyNameGoesHere Mar 2019 #119
My sons and their Bernie supporting friends are ghosting Sanders. MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #120
There was a huge turnout for him in November. The lines were long and full of younger people dalton99a Mar 2019 #124
Mine too. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #160
He may not be "pure" by some standards forklift Mar 2019 #123
I have met Beto and I really like him Gothmog Mar 2019 #127
I like Beto O'Rourke!! Peacetrain Mar 2019 #130
I see Bernie supporters leaving and moving to be Beto supporters...... Pachamama Mar 2019 #132
These are reasonable positions for any candidate to take. yardwork Mar 2019 #145
He's progressive enough for me. comradebillyboy Mar 2019 #151
Good Loki Liesmith Mar 2019 #152
Exactly grantcart Mar 2019 #178
This isn't ground breaking news JustAnotherGen Mar 2019 #155
Neither is Bernie, though people still support him Politicub Mar 2019 #156
I don't want medicare for all. I think trying to pass and implement a bill that takes away Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #157
I love the fact that both fox news and the sanders supporters are terrified of Beto Gothmog Mar 2019 #164
Precisely JCMach1 Mar 2019 #167
And yet, some Sanders supporters will bail to follow Beto. MineralMan Mar 2019 #172
taxes please ! stonecutter357 Mar 2019 #176
The priority is getting Trump out of the White House EricMaundry Mar 2019 #177
I knew who the poster supported before I even opened the thread. NBachers Mar 2019 #179
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