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58Sunliner

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134. Way to misdirect with a straw man.

Reply to Hoyt (Reply #34)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 06:05 PM

Jul 2019

Yeah, she already basically admitted she was not qualified.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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I hope Harris will explain her appointment to, and work for, the CA Medical Assistance Commission [View all] highplainsdem Jul 2019 OP

She isn't doing well enough yet to be vetted in any meaningful way. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #1

She should have the answers ready anyway. Including now, for Democrats like myself who'd had highplainsdem Jul 2019 #2

Vetting is for people who have a shot. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #6

I want to follow up with what I mean about how deflection will be necessary to defend her record. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #15

She's also fond of saying "Let's move on" (judging by what I've read) but seems to have a double highplainsdem Jul 2019 #68

"Joe Biden Used Tax-Code Loophole Obama Tried to Plug" bluewater Jul 2019 #3

So your response to my OP about Harris accepting an appointment for which she had none highplainsdem Jul 2019 #7

Lucrative appointments to Commissions, Creative use of tax loopholes... it should all be vetted. bluewater Jul 2019 #16

Why wouldn't a DA who pursues criminal cases in the name of "the People" lapucelle Jul 2019 #24

Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #131

What was her job / position at the time? lapucelle Jul 2019 #142

There is nothing wrong with what Biden did. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #9

Correct DBoon Jul 2019 #31

Whataboutism is a great way to avoid directly answering a question. LanternWaste Jul 2019 #22

OP: "believing the primaries should include vetting of what candidates said and did" bluewater Jul 2019 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #42

This is a thread about something else treestar Jul 2019 #113

Biden would be a fool to piss away half a million USD. He filed legally. Celerity Jul 2019 #63

WHATABOUTBIDEN?! lol Cha Jul 2019 #65

Changing the subject treestar Jul 2019 #112

Was this during the time she was dating Willie Brown, Democratic speaker of the California State jalan48 Jul 2019 #4

See the SF Chronicle article I cited. highplainsdem Jul 2019 #10

Thanks. I'll read the whole article. jalan48 Jul 2019 #11

Yes. Can you guess who appointed her? Jose Garcia Jul 2019 #14

I didn't realize she was getting full and full benefits from the Commission and... 4139 Jul 2019 #5

According to everything I've been able to discover, it is correct. The SF Chronice article I link highplainsdem Jul 2019 #13

Didn't Michelle Obama have some hospital admin job, too? LisaM Jul 2019 #8

What office was she holding at the time? NT SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #12

Assistant DA. She was one of "the People's" representatives in criminal court cases. lapucelle Jul 2019 #20

The poster was referencing Obama. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #21

She wasn't, but I always remembered it because she didn't have a hospital background. LisaM Jul 2019 #40

She had a background in administration. SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #41

Lol BeyondGeography Jul 2019 #57

The difference is she wasn't appointed by her boyfriend Jose Garcia Jul 2019 #19

I don't particularly care about Harris's past relationships. I do care that she accepted an highplainsdem Jul 2019 #33

she had a JOB. a job she was more than qualified for. mopinko Jul 2019 #39

Michelle Obama is not running for President treestar Jul 2019 #114

She was a lawyer with experience in community relations through the city of Chicago. 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #133

concern trolling articles can really be entertaining at times. nt yaesu Jul 2019 #17

Abject denial of reality to support bias is also bemusing. At times. nt, part II LanternWaste Jul 2019 #25

This isn't concern trolling. I've stated in this forum previously that Harris was among my favorite highplainsdem Jul 2019 #26

Trashing one candidate to promote another SCantiGOP Jul 2019 #29

Again, I'd had a high opinion of Harris, and had said so here, before learning more about her highplainsdem Jul 2019 #35

Would she be considered "a representative of recipients of service" lapucelle Jul 2019 #18

I ran across nothing explaining her appointment to the board that way. Harris's own explanation highplainsdem Jul 2019 #23

I read the article. It was interestig. lapucelle Jul 2019 #30

Moi aussi. Mme. Defarge Jul 2019 #27

another mountain out of a molehill OKNancy Jul 2019 #32

So now we are criticizing people for working with Medi-Cal (Medicaid), the best model Hoyt Jul 2019 #34

No, I'm questioning someone accepting a high-paying appointment to a commission for which highplainsdem Jul 2019 #36

I'm glad she has that experience. It's a positive. Hoyt Jul 2019 #37

Would you accept an appoointment to a highly paid commission doing important work if you had highplainsdem Jul 2019 #38

I actually worked for another state Medicaid program. The Board was made up of highly Hoyt Jul 2019 #47

+1000 nt Andy823 Jul 2019 #50

... mcar Jul 2019 #59

I don't know what your state's law stipulated as qualifications for members of that program, but highplainsdem Jul 2019 #67

Apparently she, and others like her, did meet the qualifications. Hoyt Jul 2019 #70

No, they were NOT qualified...which was the point of that SF Chronicle article. highplainsdem Jul 2019 #72

Where did it say Harris wasn't qualified. Answer: it doesn't. Politicub Jul 2019 #85

There's absolutely no evidence I've been able to find that says she was the person appointed highplainsdem Jul 2019 #87

Who made the appointments?-Willie Brown, the sole decider. 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #136

Willie Brown is one of the most accomplished politicians in this country. He recognizes Hoyt Jul 2019 #138

Harris attended 80% of the twice a month meetings. bluewater Jul 2019 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author bluewater Jul 2019 #52

So 24 meetings a year qazplm135 Jul 2019 #53

agree! All of us complain bitterly about repukes having cush jobs they are not really qualified for Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #105

Way to misdirect with a straw man. 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #134

Where does Harris say she was not qualified? Hoyt Jul 2019 #140

If Kamala becomes our nominee, I'll need to clearly explain this oasis Jul 2019 #43

Tell them that Harris attended 80% of the Commission meetings. bluewater Jul 2019 #49

Decent attendance rate, but her qualifications for the appointment oasis Jul 2019 #55

Qualifications required: "... and a representative of recipients of service." bluewater Jul 2019 #56

One could argue that a $99k post would be filled by one oasis Jul 2019 #61

One could argue almost anything but... bluewater Jul 2019 #62

I would think that would mean someone who is receiving those services dsc Jul 2019 #92

According to your reading, only person qualified would be a hospital CEO. Hoyt Jul 2019 #141

Good point. Her Biden thing was defended as a toughening up exercise treestar Jul 2019 #115

If favoritism played a role in her $99k appointment, primary voters oasis Jul 2019 #120

LOL! SharonClark Jul 2019 #44

Yep. You can count on it. stopbush Jul 2019 #46

There are certain Harris supporters treestar Jul 2019 #119

Exactly, Treestar! Why should she Cha Jul 2019 #150

Yawn. stopbush Jul 2019 #45

Exactly! Andy823 Jul 2019 #51

Harris attended 80% of the meetings. bluewater Jul 2019 #54

Well, she was highly paid for that job Hav Jul 2019 #58

The article doesn't mention the attendance rate for other Commission members bluewater Jul 2019 #60

You seem to have problems with reading comprehension. highplainsdem Jul 2019 #66

And yet you never mentioned she had an 80% attendance rate in all subsequent posts. bluewater Jul 2019 #69

LOL! highplainsdem Jul 2019 #74

I worked in the medical field all my life. Sat on various boards for air lift medical transport Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #107

If I missed one day every week at my job, I would be fired MichMan Jul 2019 #80

Oh goody. Concern threads... SidDithers Jul 2019 #64

Exactly! Andy823 Jul 2019 #73

Re what Penn is paying Biden: highplainsdem Jul 2019 #76

Oh, and please note that, as the article explains, the average salary of a Penn professor is $270K. highplainsdem Jul 2019 #79

I hope she explains stuff better than Biden does Skittles Jul 2019 #71

lol.. another shot Biden. Cha Jul 2019 #75

I'm not following your thinking. What's the issue? Politicub Jul 2019 #77

Politicub, since the qualifications stipulated in the law creating the commission referred to highplainsdem Jul 2019 #81

She wasn't some random person off the street. You do realize that, highplainsdem, don't you? Politicub Jul 2019 #83

It is hard to think she thought it was important when she didn't show up for board meetings dsc Jul 2019 #86

She was there 80% of the time AND had a full-time job in the DA's office AND was highly qualified. Politicub Jul 2019 #89

I am on a board myself which meets once a month dsc Jul 2019 #91

Some posts insinuate she didn't belong there or wasn't good enough. That's offensive to me. Politicub Jul 2019 #94

again, I am a board member dsc Jul 2019 #97

Well you should probably understand the context in which not one, but 2 jobs were 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #137

Bookmarking. n/t rzemanfl Jul 2019 #78

Looking at the replies Biden and Warren folks have wasupaloopa Jul 2019 #82

I'm a Warren person, and I have no idea what the issue is. I do have a sense for the motivation... Politicub Jul 2019 #84

They need to understand these kind of commissions wasupaloopa Jul 2019 #88

I agree. My grandmother served on the board of a non-profit and had a full-time job. She wasn't able Politicub Jul 2019 #90

was she paid 90k for it dsc Jul 2019 #93

Had she been offered $90k, she would have taken it. Do you think that Harris set her own salary? Politicub Jul 2019 #95

she deserved 80% of it since that is what she showed up for dsc Jul 2019 #98

Maybe so. Makes sense to me. Politicub Jul 2019 #100

She did not make the rules. She has no fault here. wasupaloopa Jul 2019 #109

the rules forced her to miss 20% of the meetings? dsc Jul 2019 #111

Give it up wasupaloopa Jul 2019 #126

That was the salary. It was indeed great money. Politicub Jul 2019 #122

Again, you're talking about a different type of board. This health-care comimission was established highplainsdem Jul 2019 #96

That is being pedantic. People are smart enough to know the difference. Politicub Jul 2019 #99

I don't think article said she missed more meetings than others. Hoyt Jul 2019 #101

Yes, it did. As I quoted in the OP. highplainsdem Jul 2019 #102

First off, she was working for people of California. Second, you don't mention her record Hoyt Jul 2019 #106

It was described as the highest absentee rate of anyone on that commission treestar Jul 2019 #118

No. These offer an opportunity for nepotism and eating at the public trough. emmaverybo Jul 2019 #108

Harris was more than qualified. There was no nepotism. Politicub Jul 2019 #121

She was not qualified for this particular commission. NT emmaverybo Jul 2019 #124

Your talking point has been debunked. This has been covered over and over again Politicub Jul 2019 #125

Stretch it all you want. Obviously this was the technicality used to bring people in to enjoy the emmaverybo Jul 2019 #128

You see what you want to see. I can't help you. Politicub Jul 2019 #129

Not if you get paid 90K per year treestar Jul 2019 #117

No-you probably need to understand the political machine of California. 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #135

No, certainly customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #104

She has nothing to explain. You don't Like it that is your problem. wasupaloopa Jul 2019 #110

Oh, it will be Sen. Harris' problem soon enough in the debates customerserviceguy Jul 2019 #145

It will probably be Gabbard who lets the air out of her tires. ucrdem Jul 2019 #146

It was just vetting when panties were in a wad treestar Jul 2019 #116

posted without comment... RHMerriman Jul 2019 #103

It's a cheap shot by a right wing site. Politicub Jul 2019 #123

What goes around comes around. ucrdem Jul 2019 #148

K&R nt NYMinute Jul 2019 #127

It wasn't the only job Willie gave her either, for which she was unqualified. 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #130

Whoa - back up. This is complete hyperbole with no basis in fact. Promising to tell details about Politicub Jul 2019 #139

Sorry-true, not a right wing talking point. She did indeed mention it at a campaign event. 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #143

Your are conflating disparate things. There's no way I can debate you when you do that. Politicub Jul 2019 #144

I'm starting to see a pattern here. ucrdem Jul 2019 #147

Harris (and her supporters) really don't like anyone digging into her past wyldwolf Jul 2019 #132

She's golden in CA. ucrdem Jul 2019 #149