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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,939 posts) Sun Jul 7, 2019, 06:22 PM Jul 2019

Kamala Harris stops short of fully accepting Joe Biden's apology: 'We cannot rewrite history' [View all]

Sen. Kamala Harris said Sunday that she applauds former Vice President Joe Biden's apology on his comments about his ability to be civil and work with segregationist senators in the 1970s, but stopped short of absolving him of all of his past remarks on issues of race.

The California Democrat said a "point of disagreement" between the two still remains when it comes to desegregation busing.

"He is right to recognize the impact of his words, and I applaud him for doing that," Harris said of her 2020 presidential opponent during a gaggle with reporters in Hartsville, South Carolina. "There is still a point of disagreement between he and I, and that remains ... which is the issue of busing."

"We cannot rewrite history about what segregationists were doing at that time on a number of issues including opposing busing."

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Kamala Harris stops short of fully accepting Joe Biden's apology: 'We cannot rewrite history' [View all] Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2019 OP

This is a losing issue for you Kamala and for the Democratic Party redstateblues Jul 2019 #1

She's giving them ammunition calguy Jul 2019 #4

Curious ... does she find anything that Trump says about what he was doing RHMerriman Jul 2019 #31

Kamala is out to win nomination and must knockout Biden at140 Jul 2019 #51

and Warren needs to step up her game AlexSFCA Jul 2019 #52

Yes, front runner receives the most flak at140 Jul 2019 #61

Funny, I thought the point was to win the election in November. RHMerriman Jul 2019 #53

Cart before the Horse! at140 Jul 2019 #60

Allies couldn't win in 1945 if the Soviets were defeated in 1942... RHMerriman Jul 2019 #66

And your point is? at140 Jul 2019 #69

Focus on the real enemy? RHMerriman Jul 2019 #76

Too early for that, the prize is just too important at140 Jul 2019 #91

Set aside personal ambition in favor of the common good? RHMerriman Jul 2019 #106

Nice concept, but rarely has happened before! at140 Jul 2019 #108

Given the stakes, perhaps it should? RHMerriman Jul 2019 #110

Accept the reality as it exists at140 Jul 2019 #113

Trust me, there's one Democratic incumbent I won't be voting for next time around... RHMerriman Jul 2019 #114

I don't have too much use for any Democrat who refuses to look oasis Jul 2019 #109

You are not alone... RHMerriman Jul 2019 #111

It is not necessary to knockout someone else treestar Jul 2019 #81

How many opponents Hillary had during primaries? at140 Jul 2019 #90

Fight for it on their merits treestar Jul 2019 #96

+1 treestar Jul 2019 #8

K&R onetexan Jul 2019 #57

Yes indeed. And this is not a good thing. Owl Jul 2019 #87

A lot of folk must believe that EffieBlack Jul 2019 #88

I saw her answer this morning on MSNBC. Yes, we can't rewrite history, but isn't she expecting... George II Jul 2019 #2

How so? bluewater Jul 2019 #3

She expects him to believe her hard luck story. ucrdem Jul 2019 #5

"she didn't desegregate Thousand Oaks elementary. It was never segregated." bluewater Jul 2019 #9

Thousand Oaks had a 2.1% AA student population the year before the busing program started. ucrdem Jul 2019 #11

You made a statement that the elementary school was never segregated. bluewater Jul 2019 #13

It wasn't segregated. It had a mixed student population. ucrdem Jul 2019 #17

So you can't provide actual data? bluewater Jul 2019 #21

Berkeley schools were never segregated. If you think they were, prove it. nt ucrdem Jul 2019 #22

Thanks! Cha Jul 2019 #24

Heya Cha! ucrdem Jul 2019 #25

Go Cha Jul 2019 #26

LOL ucrdem Jul 2019 #29

That's not how it works. YOU are the one making the claims. bluewater Jul 2019 #27

See below. ucrdem Jul 2019 #28

I was wrong -- it was 3% at Thousand Oaks in 1963, before Harris was even born ucrdem Jul 2019 #23

"while other schools had a black population as high as 97%" wtf! bluewater Jul 2019 #30

There was no systematic segregation and no lawsuit against it. There was unequal distribution ucrdem Jul 2019 #32

So you were wrong and are now moving the goal posts? bluewater Jul 2019 #33

In the context of busing, there was no determination of systematic segregation. ucrdem Jul 2019 #34

Your claim that Berkley schools were never segregated was wrong. bluewater Jul 2019 #36

Show me the consent decree compelling Berkeley to desegregate and you win. ucrdem Jul 2019 #37

The courts didn't get involved because, unlike many other cities Berkeley desegregated voluntarily StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #40

The school was still segregated when Harris started attending it. bluewater Jul 2019 #42

Per NYT the school was 40.2 percent AA the year before Harris got there: ucrdem Jul 2019 #45

The school was desegregated between 1968 and 1969 thanks to the busing program. bluewater Jul 2019 #54

It was at 40.2% AA per NYT, 37% per Sac Bee, the year before she started in 1970. nt ucrdem Jul 2019 #49

Again, Desegregated between 1968 and 1969 thanks to the busing program bluewater Jul 2019 #55

So she desegregated an unsegregated school while attending Montessori. ucrdem Jul 2019 #56

Facts are stubborn things, Harris helped desegregate her school. bluewater Jul 2019 #62

Yes thank you. It appears to have been a great success! ucrdem Jul 2019 #43

If you knew Berkeley, 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #63

Exactly. ucrdem Jul 2019 #67

No. No. No StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #73

By the way-those predominantly black schools had white students. 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #115

Very good point. ucrdem Jul 2019 #116

Thousand Oaks was 40.2% AA in 1969, the year BEFORE Harris was first bused there: ucrdem Jul 2019 #38

Harris did help desegregate it. It's explained in your own article. bluewater Jul 2019 #44

It was fully integrated the year before she got there. ucrdem Jul 2019 #46

a WHOLE year? A distinction without a difference? bluewater Jul 2019 #47

I'd call 40.2% fully integrated. YMMV. nt ucrdem Jul 2019 #48

Because of the busing program she was a participant in. lol bluewater Jul 2019 #50

"It was fully integrated the year before she got there" StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #58

I am at a loss for words. bluewater Jul 2019 #64

It was *already* integrated. But more accurately ucrdem Jul 2019 #68

Segregation needn't be deliberate and systematic in order to exist and to be unconstitutional StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #71

It was never segregated at all if you want to get semantic. ucrdem Jul 2019 #74

As I said, you don't know enough about this to lecture anyone about "bottom lines" or anything else StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #75

Look in any dictionary.nt ucrdem Jul 2019 #77

Thanks for the definitive data. Now you're being told that R B Garr Jul 2019 #78

Thank you. I thought when she said it that it sounded peculiar ucrdem Jul 2019 #80

If that were the case Chitown Kev Jul 2019 #79

Well he is not to talk about things treestar Jul 2019 #10

I rather not joke about what 'those old segregationists" actually did. It's not funny. bluewater Jul 2019 #12

Yes, segregationists whose raison d'etre was to dehumanize black folks tishaLA Jul 2019 #16

Berkeley isn't in Mississippi. nt ucrdem Jul 2019 #19

Where did Sen Eastland hail from and who was it that tishaLA Jul 2019 #20

They are not going to go away treestar Jul 2019 #82

How is asking someone if think they were wrong about something in the past "rewriting history"? StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #7

She will. ucrdem Jul 2019 #6

I'm in a world of hurt in anticipation of another Trump term. oasis Jul 2019 #14

Please Kamala, it's "between him and me" not "he and I." CTyankee Jul 2019 #15

All of what you said tishaLA Jul 2019 #18

Drives me crazy when educated people do that. cwydro Jul 2019 #39

That made my eyes roll back in my head. StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #72

Must've been a odd prosecutor whistler162 Jul 2019 #35

The Innocence Project has been going after Harris' prosecutions for years. ucrdem Jul 2019 #41

Just ask her why she could not advocate for victims of church abuse. 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #59

Harris has a lot of skeletons that will make her an unviable candidate in a general election. Princetonian Jul 2019 #83

Yep.She gets the nom, it will be endless. And it will smell. 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #84

Something will smell, alright EffieBlack Jul 2019 #86

They will be shredding her over the Willie Brown machine. And not just because she dated him. 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #89

Uh-hunh. Nice research about Willie Brown - (that has nothing to do with Harris) EffieBlack Jul 2019 #92

I really did not have to look far for info. I was born in the Bay Area. 58Sunliner Jul 2019 #95

Don't fall for the ratfuck EffieBlack Jul 2019 #85

Disappointing reaction, but not surprising, given what I've learned about her recently. highplainsdem Jul 2019 #65

What have you learned? nt Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #93

Hang it up tirebiter Jul 2019 #70

I like Harris Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #94

When did Harris last talk about busing, not in response to a question? StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #97

I hope so Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #98

"Media attention" - 'nuff said StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #101

She still could have accepted Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #102

She did accept his apology - in fact she said she applauded it StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #103

I'm not moving the goal posts Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #107

Harris is the one "Not letting this GO". Cha Jul 2019 #100

How is she not letting this go? StarfishSaver Jul 2019 #104

If she thinks she can ride her debate performance and Biden was a segregationist like his pals emmaverybo Jul 2019 #105

So who is "not letting this GO"? Cha Jul 2019 #99

I just peeked. Nt BootinUp Jul 2019 #112