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PatrickforO

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60. No, it actually isn't. The concept is called conflation, and what it looks like
Sun Jul 7, 2019, 03:08 PM
Jul 2019

on the ground is that there are two separate issues.

First, the Obamas are waiting until the primary is over, or at least well underway to endorse any one of the candidates.

Second, Biden is under criticism for playing up how he successfully worked with these segregationists, and subsequently apologized.

Two...

separate...

events...

But, by putting them together, the reporter and editor of the for-profit news media outlet can make it 'seem' more 'interesting' i.e. controversial, by writing the headline so it implies a causal relationship between the two separate events. Because to me, the headline seems engineered to imply that a) Biden made the comments, b) Michelle Obama heard the comments, c) Michelle Obama was offended by the comments, d) Michelle said she was specifically going to withhold endorsement from Joe Biden BECAUSE of the comment.

Then, of course, when you read the article, you see it doesn't say that at all.

Pardon me for being curious, but surely you've noticed this penchant for creating faux 'controversy' in headlines before? I mean, all you have to do is look at ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and you can see this in action. I will remind you also that our major media outlets are all, every single one, owned by for-profit publicly held corporations. Remember that the primary mission of ANY emission from ANY of these stations is to either keep revenue stable or increase revenue, because increased revenue is the fiduciary responsibility of the CEO - to keep shareholder profits up regardless of the welfare of workers, consumers or the environment.

That's just how it is, blue.

Now, your motive here seems to be to take a poke at Biden supporters based on this misleading headline and generate lots of back and forth responses, but the problem is those back and forth responses are based on the fallacy of conflation. There are plenty of things all of the candidates need to answer for during this primary season, and it seems to me that you do not need to use a misleading headline that conflates two separate issues to do so.

If you wanted to make a credible criticism of Biden, there are certainly enough factual things out there, votes, support for bills, etc. to do that without this particular article. That is my point.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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I admire her principled stance on this True Dough Jul 2019 #1
it would be a lose-lose move by her. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #2
Exactly. I will support whoever is nominated. ananda Jul 2019 #3
Presidents and spouses do not endorse until after the electorate has chosen their champions.. Peacetrain Jul 2019 #4
Another misleading headline... quickesst Jul 2019 #5
Yes, deliberately misleading. highplainsdem Jul 2019 #6
They're not getting any better at it either quickesst Jul 2019 #9
Yes. Headline is deliberating misleading to create an impression opposite to what she said. yardwork Jul 2019 #10
I agree quickesst Jul 2019 #15
And this is the so-called "liberal media." The blatantly fascist media just lies. yardwork Jul 2019 #40
I actually think.... quickesst Jul 2019 #50
I pray you are right! I certainly intend to fight like hell for whomever is our nominee. yardwork Jul 2019 #56
Yes, the headline is misleading. People who don't read beyond the headlines Arkansas Granny Jul 2019 #11
It was not a very smooth attempt quickesst Jul 2019 #34
Agree 100 percent. emmaverybo Jul 2019 #28
Yep... quickesst Jul 2019 #35
MSM wants a war within the party mcar Jul 2019 #31
I plan on it... quickesst Jul 2019 #36
Brava. MBS Jul 2019 #7
Yet another misleading headline. MineralMan Jul 2019 #8
Wise. BlueWI Jul 2019 #12
Is this a misquote? SCVDem Jul 2019 #13
Assume unspoken: ['... of the season'] Tactical Peek Jul 2019 #19
probably was supposed to be first OF seven games (n/t) thesquanderer Jul 2019 #42
Is disappointment feuling claims the Headline is misleading? bluewater Jul 2019 #14
The headline is a hybrid.... quickesst Jul 2019 #20
No candidate was endorsed, that includes Biden. bluewater Jul 2019 #22
no one is disputing that quickesst Jul 2019 #32
It seemed clear enough to me. bluewater Jul 2019 #37
The headline is literally true, but gives a false impression. thesquanderer Jul 2019 #44
let me restate this here... bluewater Jul 2019 #45
I'm not Biden-sensitive (my 4th choice at best), I just think it's an ambiguously written headline, thesquanderer Jul 2019 #49
I just think people are overly sensitive about a Headline bluewater Jul 2019 #54
I will agree.... quickesst Jul 2019 #46
Thanks bluewater Jul 2019 #48
You are welcome, and thank you quickesst Jul 2019 #52
Back at you! bluewater Jul 2019 #55
Post removed Post removed Jul 2019 #21
Quoting Michelle Obama is "bad" now? bluewater Jul 2019 #25
"Quoting" R B Garr Jul 2019 #27
Want to see Michelle's quotes again? Okie Dokie bluewater Jul 2019 #29
Thanks for eliminating the trollish spin. R B Garr Jul 2019 #30
Ah, the perrsonal Attack! The last gasp of a failing argument. lol bluewater Jul 2019 #33
As a Warren supporter, I find your response.... inaccurate at best. yardwork Jul 2019 #41
Media stirring the pot LibFarmer Jul 2019 #16
How Dare the Media interview Michelle Obama! bluewater Jul 2019 #17
"pot stirrers" R B Garr Jul 2019 #24
ikr lol bluewater Jul 2019 #38
Wow, Biden can't profit after his time spent serving Obama Beringia Jul 2019 #18
Please just let us know mainstreetonce Jul 2019 #23
However the media twists the headline, everyone knows who she supports Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #26
"everyone knows who she supports" DesertRat Jul 2019 #58
This is quite a misleading headline. PatrickforO Jul 2019 #39
The Headline seems to have hit a nerve. bluewater Jul 2019 #43
It's not 100% correct unless Michelle had been planning to announce an endorsement. ucrdem Jul 2019 #47
"but she had no intention of making an endorsement until the nomination is official" bluewater Jul 2019 #51
"demurs" would be more accurate. Shorter too! ucrdem Jul 2019 #53
Lol. yardwork Jul 2019 #57
No, it actually isn't. The concept is called conflation, and what it looks like PatrickforO Jul 2019 #60
"Now, your motive here seems to be.. " bluewater Jul 2019 #61
Sure. No worries. It gets pretty hot around here during the primaries and lots of folks get upset PatrickforO Jul 2019 #62
or themselves! bluewater Jul 2019 #63
Obama heaped praise onto Joe Biden after his former VP entered the 2020 presidential campaign... Skya Rhen Jul 2019 #59
Good Reminder, Skya.. Thank You! Cha Jul 2019 #64
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