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Blue_true

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79. Cha, there is no response that will pull them out of that space.
Sun Jun 16, 2019, 08:52 PM
Jun 2019

Just like rightwingers that see mysterious black helicopters everywhere, people on the left that are convinced that the 2016 primary was rigged are going to cling to their fantasy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Is the Bernie Thing wearing thin? Wellstone ruled Jun 2019 #1
I hope so Skittles Jun 2019 #9
Sanders is an American hero and a national treasure DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #16
By the time we hit October, Wellstone ruled Jun 2019 #20
And keep educating ourselves about all the issues DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #21
The quite undertow is,the Young Voters Wellstone ruled Jun 2019 #22
But they are on the right side to beat trump. No solely "progressive" is going to get independents wasupaloopa Jun 2019 #30
Many independents lean left. BlueWI Jun 2019 #83
The point is that there are not enough progressives wasupaloopa Jun 2019 #92
There are Wellstone ruled Jun 2019 #104
I don't think Obama was the more liberal contender (and I don't mean to say he's not liberal) LisaM Jun 2019 #152
I agree to a point. BlueWI Jun 2019 #153
One has to win 11-12% of those Wellstone ruled Jun 2019 #103
What happened then? Celerity Jun 2019 #102
Should be 1960 sorry, the College Wellstone ruled Jun 2019 #106
I am deffo gonna to read up on the late 50's to early 60's period in terms of the youth movements. Celerity Jun 2019 #107
Hey,that short period of time was a true blast. Wellstone ruled Jun 2019 #108
Greatest Music known to man kind came from the Garage Bands Celerity Jun 2019 #109
Couple of groups, Wellstone ruled Jun 2019 #110
Not many of the "College Campus Crowd"... brooklynite Jun 2019 #146
Based on the past I'll treat him with distain than you. He is no national treasure to me. wasupaloopa Jun 2019 #28
The way he's been treated by the establishment is no surprise. DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #34
Sorry I don't buy it. Bernie is a Dem when it is convinient wasupaloopa Jun 2019 #44
Voters decided the 2016 nomination. It is way past time that people get thst Blue_true Jun 2019 #48
Mahalo, Blue_true.. Cha Jun 2019 #62
Cha, there is no response that will pull them out of that space. Blue_true Jun 2019 #79
Yeah, I wonder who Cha Jun 2019 #88
. Blue_true Jun 2019 #115
Oh Please.. "Establishment" "Establishment" Cha Jun 2019 #61
Yeah, there's an establishment. And an establishment mentality. DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #70
It's part of the pendulum cycle. History swings back and forth between the poles. marylandblue Jun 2019 #72
Thank you! And I love that Buttigieg. DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #73
Warren is my.second choice👍 marylandblue Jun 2019 #74
Many of us just don't like him.. Cha Jun 2019 #75
You haven't said anything to suggest you understood, or even cared about, what I just wrote. DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #80
I give respect to those who have earned Cha Jun 2019 #89
You sound like an autocrat, not a humane Democrat. DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #93
Ironic that you allege that of someone else... LanternWaste Jun 2019 #99
Thank You, LanternWaste! Cha Jun 2019 #112
+++++++++++++++++++++++++ still_one Jun 2019 #113
Here's an insightful post for you.. Cha Jun 2019 #111
What a terrible thing to say mcar Jun 2019 #114
Mahalo, mcar! Cha Jun 2019 #123
This is OTT, Cha mcar Jun 2019 #128
I agree.. I would Cha Jun 2019 #130
Really? You have no idea about who you just attacked. George II Jun 2019 #126
... sheshe2 Jun 2019 #133
Projection? (nt) ehrnst Jun 2019 #141
Nina...Is That You? Me. Jun 2019 #144
This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Jun 2019 #119
Wow first you say sheshe2 Jun 2019 #120
Ikr, she.. Mahalo. Cha Jun 2019 #121
You are welcome Cha. sheshe2 Jun 2019 #125
OK for me but not for thee mcar Jun 2019 #129
Apparently, mcar. sheshe2 Jun 2019 #132
Your preferred candidate would be appalled at what you are saying obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #149
American hero? Seriously? Such hyperbole lunamagica Jun 2019 #33
Exactly, Lunamagica! Cha Jun 2019 #63
There is no hyperbole grand or righteous enough for the Sacred Cow. LanternWaste Jun 2019 #100
Don't forget "a national treasure". lapucelle Jun 2019 #151
I really have a hard time finding anything heroic in any of it, NNadir Jun 2019 #81
For one, he opened up the national discourse to the DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #94
I would suggest you need to understand what... NNadir Jun 2019 #95
Thank You, NNadir! Cha Jun 2019 #122
"The best that can be said for him is that he's not Trump", but they have similar "heroic".... George II Jun 2019 #131
You have evidence directly supporting your premise? LanternWaste Jun 2019 #101
No he didn't. It wasn't "his" doing, that discourse has been going on for decades.... George II Jun 2019 #124
Ganging up on relative newcomers? What do you all gain? DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #136
"Ganging up"? Care to address what I posted about the Clayton Act or Sherman Act? I'll wait. George II Jun 2019 #137
You attacked another DUer, some of us defended her mcar Jun 2019 #140
I don't think that 's a fair take DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #145
You called another DUer an autocrat and inhumane because your feelings were hurt? mcar Jun 2019 #147
"American hero." WTF? NT SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #98
lolz calling Harris and Warren "young," like they are whippersnappers obamanut2012 Jun 2019 #148
Beyond thin, it's approaching threadbare. George II Jun 2019 #127
It seems to be trending in that direction. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #2
Her brilliance is difficult to hide. She was always one of my favs but she is definitely moving up. monmouth4 Jun 2019 #5
She's brilliant and she doesn't speak in slogans or platitudes. n/t pnwmom Jun 2019 #12
Bernie changed the national narrative precisely BECAUSE he repeated his concerns DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #18
If he had conceded once Hillary's win was inevitable, when all the R's were campaigning for Trump, pnwmom Jun 2019 #25
I really don't want to chew old gum, but he had pretty good reasons. DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #29
Pretty good reasons for not conceding when he knew he could not win, which lunamagica Jun 2019 #35
".. pretty good reasons.." Cha Jun 2019 #68
I know, Cha! I guess to some, Sanders comes before the nation! lunamagica Jun 2019 #90
Unreal.. very disrespectful of our Cha Jun 2019 #91
What in the heck do you mean by that? Blue_true Jun 2019 #49
Oh? What reasons, pray tell. mcar Jun 2019 #116
Okay. He has repeated his concerns. sheshe2 Jun 2019 #134
I supported Bernie Sanders in the last primary.... Boomer Jun 2019 #39
There was a lot of support for a Warren run here in 2016. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #41
The gene test hurt her and made her seem weak. marylandblue Jun 2019 #82
It always looked petty. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #87
Warren isn't my top choice Dopers_Greed Jun 2019 #3
I predict once the debates begin, there will be a mass defection from Bernie to Warren Fiendish Thingy Jun 2019 #4
No one True Blue American Jun 2019 #8
Perhaps you are neglecting to learn about democratic socialism. luvtheGWN Jun 2019 #17
"It doesn't mean what you think it means." TwilightZone Jun 2019 #32
No. they are not interchangeable. luvtheGWN Jun 2019 #43
Okay, but Canada isn't socialist or communist. marylandblue Jun 2019 #69
Not true - universal healthcare and a living wage were rejected by Dem mainstream for decades Fiendish Thingy Jun 2019 #23
You must have missed the mid 1990s. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #38
Did you read the article you linked? Takket Jun 2019 #60
They're not "progressives" - they're rational, clear-eyed Democrats DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #31
Excuse me? Boomer Jun 2019 #40
"I predict once the debates begin, there will be a mass defection from Bernie to Warren." LenaBaby61 Jun 2019 #42
Elizabeth Warren wants to pay for her plans Eric J in MN Jun 2019 #55
On what grounds would SCOTUS rule Warren's tax unconstitutional ? Nt Fiendish Thingy Jun 2019 #59
The text of Constitution Eric J in MN Jun 2019 #76
Turley makes a weak case for unconstitutionality, and concedes any SCOTUS case would be "close" Fiendish Thingy Jun 2019 #77
Yes. If Elizabeth Warren had proposed Eric J in MN Jun 2019 #78
Here's a legal opinion that says it's Constitutional marylandblue Jun 2019 #84
I'm not taking a position on whether it's constitutional in the abstract. Eric J in MN Jun 2019 #138
Senator Warren is a far better candidate. NYMinute Jun 2019 #6
She held a Leo Gottleib professorship at Harvard law, after a long and illustrious career pnwmom Jun 2019 #15
Nah. Bernie's basically MLK now... SidDithers Jun 2019 #7
OMG! You're killing me! NurseJackie Jun 2019 #10
Yeah, No. Cha Jun 2019 #13
... mcar Jun 2019 #24
.... ehrnst Jun 2019 #143
IMO the junior senator from VT should be thrilled tishaLA Jun 2019 #11
He should drop out and endorse her lunamagica Jun 2019 #36
He should. n/t pnwmom Jun 2019 #47
Slogans of Elizabeth Warren Eric J in MN Jun 2019 #56
I'm sorry to see that you'd diminish the senior senator from MA tishaLA Jun 2019 #64
That's ridiculous and Cha Jun 2019 #67
She has both slogans and policies. A rare wonk who can speak in sound bites. marylandblue Jun 2019 #71
I like those slogans mcar Jun 2019 #117
I personally wouldn't be opposed to a Warren/Sanders ticket. The Liberal Lion Jun 2019 #14
I would really hate that. I think EW is smarter than that. ecstatic Jun 2019 #86
I seriously doubt that EW would choose BS for Cha Jun 2019 #19
me too Kurt V. Jun 2019 #27
No way in hell, lol. MrsCoffee Jun 2019 #96
Go Elizabeth Warren! At least "you have a plan for that." wasupaloopa Jun 2019 #26
How many delegates do they each have so far? Martin Eden Jun 2019 #37
Poor Nate. He thinks winning is Bernie's only goal. aikoaiko Jun 2019 #45
That's an interesting assertion. TwilightZone Jun 2019 #51
Exactly BS wants to win.. otherwise why Cha Jun 2019 #57
Go Warren!!!! Skid Rogue Jun 2019 #46
This Biden supporter agrees! Cha Jun 2019 #66
Sirota just blocked Nate on Twitter Gothmog Jun 2019 #50
Wow.. Thanks, Goth! Cha Jun 2019 #118
The fact that Sirota blocked Nate is interesting Gothmog Jun 2019 #135
If Bernie really cared about his issues aeromanKC Jun 2019 #52
Too late for concern customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #53
Warren could handle trump, I believe Irishxs Jun 2019 #54
You can't ever say Warren is not a true blood Democrat to her core Bhkylib Jun 2019 #58
EW is 1% ahead of BS in Wisconsin right now.. Cha Jun 2019 #65
Bernie and trump's supporters overlap as well. The trump supporting berners would never vote ecstatic Jun 2019 #85
Where are these mythical saidsimplesimon Jun 2019 #105
Warren is for things. SouthernProgressive Jun 2019 #97
Your observations are correct. Well said! NurseJackie Jun 2019 #139
+1000. (nt) ehrnst Jun 2019 #142
Sanders wants Democrats to think that Warren's gains are a function of moderates. They aren't Gothmog Jun 2019 #150
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