Democratic Primaries

Docreed2003

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33. I love Joe...I really do

Reply to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Sun May 19, 2019, 07:28 PM

May 2019

(And here's the but) but he is a "safe" choice for a steady, experienced hand that has the ability to turn this ship and that might be exactly what we need right now, and that is clearly resonating with people. I welcome the primary because we have a ton of amazing voices sharing their visions, and when/if Biden has the nomination I'll gladly work my butt off for him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Democrats were furious and hungry for change. Then Biden jumped in. [View all] left-of-center2012 May 2019 OP

K&R Scurrilous May 2019 #1

Really? Does it occur that, with our massive problems Hortensis May 2019 #34

Does it occur that radical "big" changes may result in losing the election? brooklynite May 2019 #50

IMO, if people don't want change, they won't vote for it. Most candidates not pushing big changes. George Eliot May 2019 #62

Yes...that is my fear. Demsrule86 May 2019 #64

Are you voting out of fear? Or is Biden your preferred candidate? George Eliot May 2019 #124

Biden is my preferred candidate. I like the guy. He is a good kind man and smart. Demsrule86 May 2019 #129

? ALL big changes have to wait until Hortensis May 2019 #93

This is also true. I hear folks saying anyone can win...but that isn't true. Demsrule86 May 2019 #130

Reminds me that PA's having a special congressional Hortensis May 2019 #132

Maybe we get a happy surprise... Demsrule86 May 2019 #134

May be. :) Hortensis May 2019 #135

America's longing for a political revolution is seriously overestimated. comradebillyboy May 2019 #2

Oh, yeah. Finland, Norway, and Denmark are just hell holes. earthshine May 2019 #7

Wonderful countries, but they didn't form over night Politicub May 2019 #9

Instead? earthshine May 2019 #10

That's what makes Bernie special... it's that vision thang!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #14

There's no point in having vision when you can't get elected. BannonsLiver May 2019 #15

Great, so if Bernie isn't going to get elected as the nominee, you don't need to worry... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #19

I'm just here for the schadenfreude BannonsLiver May 2019 #21

It's okay to be worried Bernie's gonna be the Democratic nominee... it's perfectly understandable!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #23

Bahahaha! BannonsLiver May 2019 #25

platitudes and a "return to normalcy," earthshine May 2019 #28

Yes, but you can have platitudes along with vision... the two are not mutually exclusive. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #29

I want Biden to identify the time when Republicans were reasonable. Demit May 2019 #32

Lincoln's time, perhaps? earthshine May 2019 #35

Obama and Biden gave us the only healthcare we have and or likely to have Demsrule86 May 2019 #131

Actually, it did happen sort of over night in Norway. floppyboo May 2019 #59

I think 2016 showed a desire for big change. Bernie's mass turnouts and Trumps victory. George Eliot May 2019 #63

I think 2008 also showed the desire shanny May 2019 #94

Hope and CHANGE. We got the hope but not the change. It was disappointing. George Eliot May 2019 #137

it was. imo that was the explanation for 2010 shanny May 2019 #140

He wasn't in the general so our voters did not choose revolution. Demsrule86 May 2019 #133

We have states larger than those countries...you just can not beachbum bob May 2019 #40

We have the Nordic countries as models from which to start. earthshine May 2019 #43

None of them are socialist states by any meaninful definition of socialism. comradebillyboy May 2019 #49

What Bernie advocates for is what Scandinavia has. earthshine May 2019 #70

I take Bernie at his word, he''s a socialist. comradebillyboy May 2019 #86

It's a lot easier to do when the population of the country is under 6 million people. GemDigger May 2019 #52

It's easier to do if our leaders have the consciousness to do so. earthshine May 2019 #68

that is the underlying reality of the discussion G_j May 2019 #118

There is a lot of hostility towards Immigrants who tend to be minorities in those countries JI7 May 2019 #60

Have you noticed? It's everywhere. earthshine May 2019 #67

yes, people aren't so supportive of social programs once they see "those others" will benefit JI7 May 2019 #69

I thought, as liberals, we give a damn about others. earthshine May 2019 #71

those who are truly liberals do care that's why we can see why majority of white people JI7 May 2019 #72

You seem to be arguing without actually making a point. earthshine May 2019 #73

of course it does. the problem is the majority of white voters who vote for republicans JI7 May 2019 #75

Okay. You seem to not be on topic. Good night. earthshine May 2019 #76

no, i'm very much on topic. Vermont got rid of their Democratic Governor that tried to get single JI7 May 2019 #77

So, I guess the point you want to make is that YOU don't want it. earthshine May 2019 #80

Vermont didn't want it and Sanders himself did nothing to help the Democratic Governor get it JI7 May 2019 #82

Since none of the Nations you mention are socialist, GulfCoast66 May 2019 #61

Bernie advocates for what you call "Social Democratic tradition" and Biden does not. earthshine May 2019 #66

Sanders said he didn't think poor people from Mexico, China etc should come here JI7 May 2019 #78

This info is without context. Show me a link. earthshine May 2019 #81

but it's interesting when certain ones are named JI7 May 2019 #83

Enough of your poor excuse for communications. Do not write to me again. earthshine May 2019 #84

but you are ok wanting a president who is unable to answer when asked about policy JI7 May 2019 #85

Post removed Post removed May 2019 #120

Why do you keep replying ? JI7 May 2019 #122

LOL betsuni May 2019 #128

Finland, Norway, & Denmark are orders of magnitude less diverse than America... Hekate May 2019 #88

I take it YOU don't want it. earthshine May 2019 #89

We need to build on the strengths we have. Take that however you want. Hekate May 2019 #110

I take it YOU don't want it. earthshine May 2019 #111

They are Social Democracies, NOT Socialist. pangaia May 2019 #12

You are correct to distinguish social democracy from socialism. comradebillyboy May 2019 #51

They have great food, also.. :))))))))) pangaia May 2019 #54

I visited Denmark, Sweden and Finland and found the cuisine to comradebillyboy May 2019 #55

I'm going to Kyoto Sunday.. pangaia May 2019 #58

I was stationed in Okinawa for 18 months way back comradebillyboy May 2019 #87

hummmm. which broader cuisine were an issue? pangaia May 2019 #98

Raw fish, sea weed and the like. comradebillyboy May 2019 #99

I must say, sushi is my favorite of everything in the world. But I understand your concern. :) pangaia May 2019 #100

I've tried both and they are not to my taste. I have aalways been comradebillyboy May 2019 #101

Turkey! What kind of Cha May 2019 #90

Pide, a Turkish Flat bread with ground meat and vegetables comradebillyboy May 2019 #97

Looks interesting and Cha May 2019 #116

I know what you're saying Turin_C3PO May 2019 #17

here we go again, Triloon May 2019 #3

If the "status quo" no longer exists, it's not the "status quo".... George II May 2019 #4

I dont need to think about it Triloon May 2019 #8

hahahahahahaha NYMinute May 2019 #22

You can't be more mistaken. Triloon May 2019 #36

"Status quo ante" is the correct term for your example. lapucelle May 2019 #39

"The status quo needs to go because the status quo is different" is your usage, not mine. Triloon May 2019 #46

Inference and interpretation based on a series of statements lapucelle May 2019 #47

that's exactly what I was trying to tell you - Triloon May 2019 #48

... lapucelle May 2019 #53

I believe we can both agree that Triloon May 2019 #74

Ignoratio elenchi... lapucelle May 2019 #91

I regret that my faith in your expertise was misplaced. Triloon May 2019 #114

The reference was to let you know that your tactic was obvious. The answer to your question lapucelle May 2019 #123

But when there's a new status quo, what do we do with all those dozens or hundreds.... George II May 2019 #56

I'm sorry, but I dont understand your question. Triloon May 2019 #115

What would you describe as 'non-vigorous' "business as usual centrism?" ehrnst May 2019 #96

You're right, I need to be more clear and specific, thanks for your patience. I will try. Triloon May 2019 #119

So essentially, you think that he hasn't earned the popularity that he has. ehrnst May 2019 #136

No, that's not what I think. Triloon May 2019 #138

i took another look at what you said and I think I understand it better. Triloon May 2019 #125

+1 earthshine May 2019 #11

This is no time to play it safe... that's for damn sure!! There's way too at stake!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #26

There is nothing "safe" about any of our candidates. All of them support the same set of goals emulatorloo May 2019 #103

Goals are goals. I wanna know what ACTIONS candidates will take, then we voters decide on a nominee. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #107

All of them are talking about policy and implementation! It is exciting! emulatorloo May 2019 #108

Well put. shanny May 2019 #95

Trump, the Koch Brothers, and the Freedom Caucus are the status quo emulatorloo May 2019 #102

I, for one, couldn't be happier. LakeArenal May 2019 #5

"old white guy" pushback left-of-center2012 May 2019 #20

I, for one, am incredibly tired of it. Talk about old and tired. Mindless memes need retirement. emmaverybo May 2019 #31

American voters snowybirdie May 2019 #6

Before ANY of that can happen, we need to save the damn country from turning into I know not what ! pangaia May 2019 #13

Joe Biden for president NBachers May 2019 #16

Any Change From Trump Is Good colsohlibgal May 2019 #18

Democratic Socialism will NOT defeat Trump NYMinute May 2019 #24

If it didn't have "socialist" in the title, Turin_C3PO May 2019 #27

Bernie's biggest mistake was to use that word. earthshine May 2019 #30

He LIKES saying he is a socialist - for the shock value and attention nt NYMinute May 2019 #44

It's like he wants to force feed "socialism" to America and be like.. Kahuna7 May 2019 #92

I love Joe...I really do Docreed2003 May 2019 #33

Democrats were/are furious hungry for change The Mouth May 2019 #37

I find this quite sad. NRaleighLiberal May 2019 #38

Too early to watch polls. America is full of invisible and unengaged voters. Give it time. George Eliot May 2019 #65

Safe choice. Like John Kerry? Like Bob Dole for the Republicans? TryLogic May 2019 #41

, left-of-center2012 May 2019 #45

Joe's the Goldilocks's choice. Not too hot, not too cold, just right! jalan48 May 2019 #42

playing safe DonCoquixote May 2019 #57

Democrats wanted a Change from Trump. Not a Change from OBama JI7 May 2019 #79

Only at DU and Reddit do I see people claim that most Democrats hate Obama emulatorloo May 2019 #104

once people realize and accept how popular Obama is then it's not really surprising to see why JI7 May 2019 #127

Biden is change though. emulatorloo May 2019 #105

If they were really hungry they'd focus more on the House and Senate. Amimnoch May 2019 #106

Democrats want Trump out and a proven leader in. IluvPitties May 2019 #109

I want to win in 2020 Gothmog May 2019 #112

Its true that not risky may win the primary -- but what about the GE aikoaiko May 2019 #113

Washington Post-Analysis: How the Democrats' shift to the left indirectly aids Joe Biden Gothmog May 2019 #117

Well, I always wanted something more during the Obama administration.. mvd May 2019 #121

Thereis a... Mike Nelson May 2019 #126

Love these headlines peggysue2 May 2019 #139