Democratic Primaries

NYMinute

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Sun May 19, 2019, 06:43 PM

May 2019

What may have been the status quo in the past need not be the status quo of the present, nor of the future.

"Status quo" by definition is something that doesn't change.

Your statement is like saying, "The rock of Gibraltar of the past is not the same as the one present and definitely not the Rock of Gibraltar of the future."

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Democrats were furious and hungry for change. Then Biden jumped in. [View all] left-of-center2012 May 2019 OP

K&R Scurrilous May 2019 #1

Really? Does it occur that, with our massive problems Hortensis May 2019 #34

Does it occur that radical "big" changes may result in losing the election? brooklynite May 2019 #50

IMO, if people don't want change, they won't vote for it. Most candidates not pushing big changes. George Eliot May 2019 #62

Yes...that is my fear. Demsrule86 May 2019 #64

Are you voting out of fear? Or is Biden your preferred candidate? George Eliot May 2019 #124

Biden is my preferred candidate. I like the guy. He is a good kind man and smart. Demsrule86 May 2019 #129

? ALL big changes have to wait until Hortensis May 2019 #93

This is also true. I hear folks saying anyone can win...but that isn't true. Demsrule86 May 2019 #130

Reminds me that PA's having a special congressional Hortensis May 2019 #132

Maybe we get a happy surprise... Demsrule86 May 2019 #134

May be. :) Hortensis May 2019 #135

America's longing for a political revolution is seriously overestimated. comradebillyboy May 2019 #2

Oh, yeah. Finland, Norway, and Denmark are just hell holes. earthshine May 2019 #7

Wonderful countries, but they didn't form over night Politicub May 2019 #9

Instead? earthshine May 2019 #10

That's what makes Bernie special... it's that vision thang!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #14

There's no point in having vision when you can't get elected. BannonsLiver May 2019 #15

Great, so if Bernie isn't going to get elected as the nominee, you don't need to worry... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #19

I'm just here for the schadenfreude BannonsLiver May 2019 #21

It's okay to be worried Bernie's gonna be the Democratic nominee... it's perfectly understandable!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #23

Bahahaha! BannonsLiver May 2019 #25

platitudes and a "return to normalcy," earthshine May 2019 #28

Yes, but you can have platitudes along with vision... the two are not mutually exclusive. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #29

I want Biden to identify the time when Republicans were reasonable. Demit May 2019 #32

Lincoln's time, perhaps? earthshine May 2019 #35

Obama and Biden gave us the only healthcare we have and or likely to have Demsrule86 May 2019 #131

Actually, it did happen sort of over night in Norway. floppyboo May 2019 #59

I think 2016 showed a desire for big change. Bernie's mass turnouts and Trumps victory. George Eliot May 2019 #63

I think 2008 also showed the desire shanny May 2019 #94

Hope and CHANGE. We got the hope but not the change. It was disappointing. George Eliot May 2019 #137

it was. imo that was the explanation for 2010 shanny May 2019 #140

He wasn't in the general so our voters did not choose revolution. Demsrule86 May 2019 #133

We have states larger than those countries...you just can not beachbum bob May 2019 #40

We have the Nordic countries as models from which to start. earthshine May 2019 #43

None of them are socialist states by any meaninful definition of socialism. comradebillyboy May 2019 #49

What Bernie advocates for is what Scandinavia has. earthshine May 2019 #70

I take Bernie at his word, he''s a socialist. comradebillyboy May 2019 #86

It's a lot easier to do when the population of the country is under 6 million people. GemDigger May 2019 #52

It's easier to do if our leaders have the consciousness to do so. earthshine May 2019 #68

that is the underlying reality of the discussion G_j May 2019 #118

There is a lot of hostility towards Immigrants who tend to be minorities in those countries JI7 May 2019 #60

Have you noticed? It's everywhere. earthshine May 2019 #67

yes, people aren't so supportive of social programs once they see "those others" will benefit JI7 May 2019 #69

I thought, as liberals, we give a damn about others. earthshine May 2019 #71

those who are truly liberals do care that's why we can see why majority of white people JI7 May 2019 #72

You seem to be arguing without actually making a point. earthshine May 2019 #73

of course it does. the problem is the majority of white voters who vote for republicans JI7 May 2019 #75

Okay. You seem to not be on topic. Good night. earthshine May 2019 #76

no, i'm very much on topic. Vermont got rid of their Democratic Governor that tried to get single JI7 May 2019 #77

So, I guess the point you want to make is that YOU don't want it. earthshine May 2019 #80

Vermont didn't want it and Sanders himself did nothing to help the Democratic Governor get it JI7 May 2019 #82

Since none of the Nations you mention are socialist, GulfCoast66 May 2019 #61

Bernie advocates for what you call "Social Democratic tradition" and Biden does not. earthshine May 2019 #66

Sanders said he didn't think poor people from Mexico, China etc should come here JI7 May 2019 #78

This info is without context. Show me a link. earthshine May 2019 #81

but it's interesting when certain ones are named JI7 May 2019 #83

Enough of your poor excuse for communications. Do not write to me again. earthshine May 2019 #84

but you are ok wanting a president who is unable to answer when asked about policy JI7 May 2019 #85

Post removed Post removed May 2019 #120

Why do you keep replying ? JI7 May 2019 #122

LOL betsuni May 2019 #128

Finland, Norway, & Denmark are orders of magnitude less diverse than America... Hekate May 2019 #88

I take it YOU don't want it. earthshine May 2019 #89

We need to build on the strengths we have. Take that however you want. Hekate May 2019 #110

I take it YOU don't want it. earthshine May 2019 #111

They are Social Democracies, NOT Socialist. pangaia May 2019 #12

You are correct to distinguish social democracy from socialism. comradebillyboy May 2019 #51

They have great food, also.. :))))))))) pangaia May 2019 #54

I visited Denmark, Sweden and Finland and found the cuisine to comradebillyboy May 2019 #55

I'm going to Kyoto Sunday.. pangaia May 2019 #58

I was stationed in Okinawa for 18 months way back comradebillyboy May 2019 #87

hummmm. which broader cuisine were an issue? pangaia May 2019 #98

Raw fish, sea weed and the like. comradebillyboy May 2019 #99

I must say, sushi is my favorite of everything in the world. But I understand your concern. :) pangaia May 2019 #100

I've tried both and they are not to my taste. I have aalways been comradebillyboy May 2019 #101

Turkey! What kind of Cha May 2019 #90

Pide, a Turkish Flat bread with ground meat and vegetables comradebillyboy May 2019 #97

Looks interesting and Cha May 2019 #116

I know what you're saying Turin_C3PO May 2019 #17

here we go again, Triloon May 2019 #3

If the "status quo" no longer exists, it's not the "status quo".... George II May 2019 #4

I dont need to think about it Triloon May 2019 #8

hahahahahahaha NYMinute May 2019 #22

You can't be more mistaken. Triloon May 2019 #36

"Status quo ante" is the correct term for your example. lapucelle May 2019 #39

"The status quo needs to go because the status quo is different" is your usage, not mine. Triloon May 2019 #46

Inference and interpretation based on a series of statements lapucelle May 2019 #47

that's exactly what I was trying to tell you - Triloon May 2019 #48

... lapucelle May 2019 #53

I believe we can both agree that Triloon May 2019 #74

Ignoratio elenchi... lapucelle May 2019 #91

I regret that my faith in your expertise was misplaced. Triloon May 2019 #114

The reference was to let you know that your tactic was obvious. The answer to your question lapucelle May 2019 #123

But when there's a new status quo, what do we do with all those dozens or hundreds.... George II May 2019 #56

I'm sorry, but I dont understand your question. Triloon May 2019 #115

What would you describe as 'non-vigorous' "business as usual centrism?" ehrnst May 2019 #96

You're right, I need to be more clear and specific, thanks for your patience. I will try. Triloon May 2019 #119

So essentially, you think that he hasn't earned the popularity that he has. ehrnst May 2019 #136

No, that's not what I think. Triloon May 2019 #138

i took another look at what you said and I think I understand it better. Triloon May 2019 #125

+1 earthshine May 2019 #11

This is no time to play it safe... that's for damn sure!! There's way too at stake!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #26

There is nothing "safe" about any of our candidates. All of them support the same set of goals emulatorloo May 2019 #103

Goals are goals. I wanna know what ACTIONS candidates will take, then we voters decide on a nominee. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #107

All of them are talking about policy and implementation! It is exciting! emulatorloo May 2019 #108

Well put. shanny May 2019 #95

Trump, the Koch Brothers, and the Freedom Caucus are the status quo emulatorloo May 2019 #102

I, for one, couldn't be happier. LakeArenal May 2019 #5

"old white guy" pushback left-of-center2012 May 2019 #20

I, for one, am incredibly tired of it. Talk about old and tired. Mindless memes need retirement. emmaverybo May 2019 #31

American voters snowybirdie May 2019 #6

Before ANY of that can happen, we need to save the damn country from turning into I know not what ! pangaia May 2019 #13

Joe Biden for president NBachers May 2019 #16

Any Change From Trump Is Good colsohlibgal May 2019 #18

Democratic Socialism will NOT defeat Trump NYMinute May 2019 #24

If it didn't have "socialist" in the title, Turin_C3PO May 2019 #27

Bernie's biggest mistake was to use that word. earthshine May 2019 #30

He LIKES saying he is a socialist - for the shock value and attention nt NYMinute May 2019 #44

It's like he wants to force feed "socialism" to America and be like.. Kahuna7 May 2019 #92

I love Joe...I really do Docreed2003 May 2019 #33

Democrats were/are furious hungry for change The Mouth May 2019 #37

I find this quite sad. NRaleighLiberal May 2019 #38

Too early to watch polls. America is full of invisible and unengaged voters. Give it time. George Eliot May 2019 #65

Safe choice. Like John Kerry? Like Bob Dole for the Republicans? TryLogic May 2019 #41

, left-of-center2012 May 2019 #45

Joe's the Goldilocks's choice. Not too hot, not too cold, just right! jalan48 May 2019 #42

playing safe DonCoquixote May 2019 #57

Democrats wanted a Change from Trump. Not a Change from OBama JI7 May 2019 #79

Only at DU and Reddit do I see people claim that most Democrats hate Obama emulatorloo May 2019 #104

once people realize and accept how popular Obama is then it's not really surprising to see why JI7 May 2019 #127

Biden is change though. emulatorloo May 2019 #105

If they were really hungry they'd focus more on the House and Senate. Amimnoch May 2019 #106

Democrats want Trump out and a proven leader in. IluvPitties May 2019 #109

I want to win in 2020 Gothmog May 2019 #112

Its true that not risky may win the primary -- but what about the GE aikoaiko May 2019 #113

Washington Post-Analysis: How the Democrats' shift to the left indirectly aids Joe Biden Gothmog May 2019 #117

Well, I always wanted something more during the Obama administration.. mvd May 2019 #121

Thereis a... Mike Nelson May 2019 #126

Love these headlines peggysue2 May 2019 #139