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Bleacher Creature

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12. Yep, Elizabeth Warren has all of his positives and none of his negatives.

Sun May 19, 2019, 12:07 PM

May 2019

I truly don't understand why anyone would support Sanders over her, much less any of our fantastic candidates not named Gabbard, Ryan, or Moulton.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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So, Senator Sanders is dissing Democrats again on MTP? [View all] MineralMan May 2019 OP

I'm part of the "Democratic establishment", have been for years. George II May 2019 #1

Yeah, me, too! MineralMan May 2019 #2

This should be a poll question LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #9

Bernie, although not a Democrat except when it's to his advantage to label himself as such, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #16

Don't say Bernie is not part of the establishment Fresh_Start May 2019 #50

Bingo. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #58

Word EffieBlack May 2019 #202

Indeed. (nt) ehrnst May 2019 #265

True. betsuni May 2019 #272

:) No discrepancy, though. After getting confused trying to Hortensis May 2019 #61

So am I! Ever since the Student Coalition for Humphrey/Muskie. calimary May 2019 #72

Wow! I haven't heard the name 'Hubert Humphrey' in quite some time. PatrickforO May 2019 #81

Meh, old fart here. I now qualify for the label "Grandma," too. calimary May 2019 #91

Ha! Great story! MyOwnPeace May 2019 #186

Me, too. I started working in campaigns when I was 15 years old. MineralMan May 2019 #99

I volunteered for JFK also! NastyRiffraff May 2019 #103

Yup. I did a lot of setting up chairs and putting them away MineralMan May 2019 #107

I fetched coffee and made copies when I was 11 The Mouth May 2019 #192

Somebody has to. Thanks for being part of it! MineralMan May 2019 #232

My first vote! Grade school 1968. Humphrey won the 4th grade MaryMagdaline May 2019 #105

Have been a Democrat all my life, zentrum May 2019 #77

Noshit... LakeArenal May 2019 #82

What is with the ridiculous Democratic Nuggets May 2019 #100

Bernie used the same term in 2016. Blue_true May 2019 #196

he is NOT part of the "Democratic Establishment" ... He's not even a DEMOCRAT trueblue2007 May 2019 #108

I have been very active in the party for a long time Gothmog May 2019 #250

No! No! No! All you have to do is inspire millions of people who haven't voted in the past... brooklynite May 2019 #3

Oh crap! I forgot about that. MineralMan May 2019 #5

Being in the so-called "Democratic establishment" sounds weirldy boasty. DemocracyMouse May 2019 #22

Where have I expressed opposition to debate? brooklynite May 2019 #54

Whoops, sorry.... I was responding to Mineralman's original post DemocracyMouse May 2019 #121

Ah, well, you missed. MineralMan May 2019 #127

Hey fellow campaigner! Thank you for that wonderful history DemocracyMouse May 2019 #159

You need to be telling republicans this, not members of DU. NT SWBTATTReg May 2019 #63

I was responding to Mineralman's original post DemocracyMouse May 2019 #122

Autocratic? Control-Z May 2019 #148

We live in a poorly designed Democracy at times where we have DemocracyMouse Jun 2019 #278

All Hope Abandon, Ye Who Enter Here Hekate May 2019 #130

Well, he tends to do that on days that end in "y." NT Bleacher Creature May 2019 #4

Well, that schtick isn't going to work this time. MineralMan May 2019 #6

Yep, Elizabeth Warren has all of his positives and none of his negatives. Bleacher Creature May 2019 #12

Agree nt spooky3 May 2019 #35

It's interesting how much he's flailing. nolabear May 2019 #13

The morning after Biden's excellent speech, Bernie comes out to remind people that he is still here. Skya Rhen May 2019 #115

Same ole, same ole. kstewart33 May 2019 #166

I take issue with anyone who feels that super delegates are democratic. watoos May 2019 #7

Remember that time when the Super Delegates decided the nominee? MineralMan May 2019 #8

West Virginia Catch2.2 May 2019 #60

Super Delegates have no vote until the Convention. MineralMan May 2019 #66

So that makes it ok Catch2.2 May 2019 #69

I did not say that. It's a system. MineralMan May 2019 #76

Well maybe the system Catch2.2 May 2019 #79

Do you know who changes that system? MineralMan May 2019 #90

Awwww, that sounds too much like hard work... Hekate May 2019 #133

You touched on the issue. Blue_true May 2019 #201

Indeed, but the way some people bellyache about the process you would think it was soooo unfair... Hekate May 2019 #213

That's because it is hard work. MineralMan May 2019 #231

People parachuting into the party wants to just take over. Blue_true May 2019 #260

MM, some people prefer to parachute in and take over the party. Blue_true May 2019 #199

That never works. Too many people have no idea MineralMan May 2019 #230

"The system" that all candidates know about before they agree to run as a Dem Candidate? ehrnst May 2019 #240

Clinton had the nomination numerically wrapped up. Blue_true May 2019 #198

You mean like trying to get Superdelegates to vote to overturn the will of the majority ehrnst May 2019 #239

I have to fold socks. BBL. n/t rzemanfl May 2019 #187

So much laundry, so little time Hekate May 2019 #214

You must share your sorting system with me. TexasTowelie May 2019 #216

Really? Can you provide a link? Blue_true May 2019 #197

here... progressoid May 2019 #207

That was *after after Sanders endorsed Clinton,* after she had the #of pledged delegates to win ehrnst May 2019 #241

Blue True asked for a link, I supplied a link. progressoid May 2019 #242

Squabble? You mean point me pointing the details that ehrnst May 2019 #243

Whatevs. progressoid May 2019 #246

The link proved the exact opposite of what you claimed. Blue_true May 2019 #259

I didn't make that claim. progressoid May 2019 #262

The link disproves the claim. End of story. nt Blue_true May 2019 #264

They don't get that WV votes second to last LibFarmer May 2019 #252

This message was self-deleted by its author ehrnst May 2019 #238

Nope, didn't happen. See the thread on this. ehrnst May 2019 #244

I remember when GOP wished they had the superdelegates robbedvoter May 2019 #65

he needs to be held to his pledge. mopinko May 2019 #10

Well, he can campaign against other candidates, certainly. MineralMan May 2019 #26

What did he say? I must have missed it. Only heard him mention Dem establishment in Nanjeanne May 2019 #11

For some reason they are always looking for excuses to diss Bernie. I think they're afraid of him. pdsimdars May 2019 #23

"Dissing" him by using his own words? George II May 2019 #27

The op contains zero quotes from Senator Sanders. Voltaire2 May 2019 #132

Who's "they"? lapucelle May 2019 #59

They do love to bash Catch2.2 May 2019 #62

Who's "they"? lapucelle May 2019 #71

a number of people on this board Catch2.2 May 2019 #73

Ah...how terrible that BS is a victim of the anonymous, apocryphal "they". lapucelle May 2019 #80

Not seeing any bashing him. Can you point them out? ehrnst May 2019 #247

I am one of the 'they' group. I can't stand the man. comradebillyboy May 2019 #98

I wish I could offer you a donut, lapucelle May 2019 #114

I just finished baking up some calzones. so I'm good. comradebillyboy May 2019 #155

Many of us remember 2016. kstewart33 May 2019 #165

Here's one of them! MyOwnPeace May 2019 #188

They never miss an opportunity... only shows they fear Bernie!! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #218

I don't fear Bernie Vidal May 2019 #229

Actually the interview with Chuck Todd was suprisingly informative and good. I typically hate Chuck Nanjeanne May 2019 #140

Yes. When will people learn to be unbiased and just listen to the issues? pdsimdars May 2019 #152

When will BS stop bashing the Dem Cha May 2019 #277

You mean like the victim card? BannonsLiver May 2019 #173

It's so obvious they're afraid Bernie will win the Democratic primary... otherwise they'd ignore him InAbLuEsTaTe May 2019 #217

Old habits die hard. dalton99a May 2019 #14

Sanders would get booted from websites with TOS against disparaging fellow Democrats aeromanKC May 2019 #15

I don't know about that, actually. MineralMan May 2019 #29

Considering how badly DU has failed to police itself in that regard, I'd say that's wishful thinking FreepFryer May 2019 #89

concern.... yaesu May 2019 #17

But, you see, I'm not concerned at all. Not even a little. MineralMan May 2019 #30

This should not be a surprise peggysue2 May 2019 #18

You don't have to worry about Sanders. As you say, he is going to fail. rgbecker May 2019 #19

Wake Up Vidal May 2019 #21

I'm not worried about Sanders. I'm offering him some advice. MineralMan May 2019 #34

So let me get this straight. You want Sanders to do better? rgbecker May 2019 #253

Exactly Metalmom May 2019 #47

That's up to the voters, isn't it? Cha May 2019 #263

Why? Because he cannot help our efforts to oust Trump, but he can certainly harm them LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #48

wildfires are exciting Fresh_Start May 2019 #56

Real realistic change. kstewart33 May 2019 #168

Hello! BS' own words get pushbacks.. Cha May 2019 #275

Has the ink on the pledge even dried yet? mcar May 2019 #20

Sanders won't join the party rebe303 May 2019 #24

Again with the "Democratic establishment" canard? Why? WHY,? WHY? SunSeeker May 2019 #25

When did we take over the Democratic Party? vermont farmguy May 2019 #28

I didn't say they had a hidden agenda. MineralMan May 2019 #42

Except it's not working and you don't speak for all Americans. BannonsLiver May 2019 #46

Not even all Democrats, or a majority of Democrats. George II May 2019 #87

Wait...what? What are you talking about? lapucelle May 2019 #113

Hostile takeover that never happened, apparently. Hortensis May 2019 #180

And who's the apocryphal "we"? N/T lapucelle May 2019 #181

:) Beats me. I'm guessing Nancy and Hillary know who Hortensis May 2019 #183

Yes, we need more focus on individual rights and far fewer legislative handouts to corporations. JudyM May 2019 #128

No, you're wrong, vermont farmguy.. Cha May 2019 #150

Are you really the film maker? lapucelle May 2019 #153

Except for the majority of Democrats like me. GulfCoast66 May 2019 #204

How is that "removing Democratic leadership" going for "you" 'progressives?' ehrnst May 2019 #226

Yeah, the BlueWave happened Cha May 2019 #271

To be honest, this is my issue with "outside criticism". moriah May 2019 #236

No.. BS is down in the polls.. look around. Cha May 2019 #270

Rank and file wsbradshaw May 2019 #31

The candidate they picked got 3 million more votes than Trump. MineralMan May 2019 #37

Not quite true Catch2.2 May 2019 #57

Care to discuss caucus states? Which thankfully there are few of now. GulfCoast66 May 2019 #208

A majority of primary voters, otherwise known as "the people", picked Clinton. LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #44

The voters always choose the Democratic nominee. lapucelle May 2019 #85

You won't get an answer for that question at the end. Blue_true May 2019 #206

If by "Democratic establishment" you mean the majority of voters, then yes.... George II May 2019 #129

Delegates were picked by actual party voters in primaries or caucuses. Blue_true May 2019 #203

What "elites" chose the candidate? Are you talking about 16,914,722 million Democratic voters? ehrnst May 2019 #227

4 million more "people" voted for the winning candidate nt LibFarmer May 2019 #233

Your concern and best wishes for the Senator are noted. aikoaiko May 2019 #32

What concern? I hope the candidate who gets the most votes MineralMan May 2019 #39

So what if you did express concern? Cary May 2019 #179

I actually watched that ismnotwasm May 2019 #33

Did it ever dawn on him that perhaps "Establishment Democrats" are what Democrats.... George II May 2019 #36

Democratic Primary voters will make what they want known MineralMan May 2019 #49

The bad news for Sanders is that he did very poorly in primaries in general, closed primaries.... George II May 2019 #64

Well, primary voters decide for whom to vote in different ways. MineralMan May 2019 #67

Except that in open primaries some vote for the candidate they'd like to oppose their REAL candidate George II May 2019 #70

Yes, some do. I don't think it's a major factor, MineralMan May 2019 #74

That is all Bernie has left LibFarmer May 2019 #38

What did he say Metalmom May 2019 #40

You can watch the Meet the Press episode. MineralMan May 2019 #52

I think Metalmom May 2019 #101

Here's part of what he had to say on MTP: MineralMan May 2019 #102

He's not wrong Metalmom May 2019 #112

Interesting. MineralMan May 2019 #116

oh please Metalmom May 2019 #143

No, thanks. MineralMan May 2019 #144

no problem Metalmom May 2019 #149

Yeah, how's that working Cha May 2019 #273

Same here. DU's starting to sound like 2015's primary Hortensis May 2019 #182

So you would use racial slurs among AA to "empower them" ehrnst May 2019 #224

"Oh please" yourself.. the "average person" knows Cha May 2019 #267

Wow.... revmclaren May 2019 #125

really? Metalmom May 2019 #145

No, "shame on you". Cha May 2019 #157

pfft Metalmom May 2019 #160

Yeah... shame on you and BS bashing Cha May 2019 #162

again Pfft Metalmom May 2019 #163

It's the Voters who took the poll who say BS Cha May 2019 #171

Interesting when people talk about a post they haven't read. ehrnst May 2019 #235

Was that the problem? Cha May 2019 #261

Pot, meet kettle. ehrnst May 2019 #222

"pfft"? lol Cha May 2019 #274

Have I ever told you about my friend who does the faux-umbrage-shaming routine AND lapucelle May 2019 #167

Why no you haven't, lapucelle.. Cha May 2019 #172

Bazinga. sheshe2 May 2019 #176

Thank you. Tipperary May 2019 #190

I know.. Cha May 2019 #219

Oooh. sheshe2 May 2019 #175

Mahalo, she.. Cha May 2019 #221

Yes, BS is WRONG.. he's bashing to build Cha May 2019 #154

#1 bitch? Tipperary May 2019 #189

BS is dead wrong.. and so are you. Cha May 2019 #266

Strange how you are fine with what Ed Redell had to say about Elizabeth Warren. Autumn May 2019 #126

Is Ed Rendell running for the nomination? Besides, there's a huge difference between..... George II May 2019 #131

Not running for a nomination gives the former head of the Democratic Party in PA every right to Autumn May 2019 #134

How is that "trashing" them, he was making an observation about Democrats in his state.... George II May 2019 #139

And.......? LiberalLovinLug May 2019 #142

What happened to Tulsi? BannonsLiver May 2019 #178

Sorry, still undecided. LiberalLovinLug May 2019 #194

Nah, just wondering why you abandoned Tuls. BannonsLiver May 2019 #237

Whoa! That is a nasty thing to say. If he's so sick and tired, R B Garr May 2019 #185

I'll underline the bad parts where he dissed and trashed Democrats. Autumn May 2019 #111

Same old, same old from a politician who's been part of the establishment for 30+ years. lapucelle May 2019 #169

Don't be so hard on Biden and Bernie lapucelle, they aren't the only lifers. Autumn May 2019 #234

They aren't the only lifers mcar May 2019 #248

The inference is invalid. "Who's been part of" is the present perfect progressive construction, lapucelle May 2019 #269

This message was self-deleted by its author lapucelle May 2019 #254

Who likes to divide.. bash the Dem Cha May 2019 #268

He is not a Democrat he is an Independent trying to get Democratic voters to support him kimbutgar May 2019 #41

+++++++++++++++++++++ sheshe2 May 2019 #209

healthy minds NJCher May 2019 #43

Indeed mcar May 2019 #53

Criticism is one thing, attaching phony tags like "Establishment Democrats" is another altogether. George II May 2019 #78

And Chuck won't fluff him again this time around. lapucelle May 2019 #170

he could have said NJCher May 2019 #200

That is also asinine LibFarmer May 2019 #205

Oh. sheshe2 May 2019 #210

acronym explanation, please NJCher May 2019 #215

I am surprised that you don't know LibFarmer May 2019 #228

just because you say it doesn't make it so NJCher May 2019 #255

They keep their large donors secret LibFarmer May 2019 #258

This is where BS' bashing has got him.. Cha May 2019 #156

Great point! BannonsLiver May 2019 #174

Bernie knows he's not going to win the nomination Fresh_Start May 2019 #45

We can make use of that, however. Someone calls Biden a scaliest? Say, "no, that's Bernie" LongtimeAZDem May 2019 #51

I expect that he does, actually. MineralMan May 2019 #55

Us not me vermont farmguy May 2019 #75

Any progressive who wants a party, should start one lapucelle May 2019 #92

And what if Bernie is not the nominee? BannonsLiver May 2019 #177

Sorry, but I'm a democrat. Not a progressive. Whatever the hell that is. GulfCoast66 May 2019 #211

Do you have a link to the women's march with BS tonight? sheshe2 May 2019 #212

I agree. MBS May 2019 #83

How does this thread help? Catch2.2 May 2019 #68

So tell me again how it is that smearing the party will "help us defeat Trump in 2020". NurseJackie May 2019 #86

Sanders going on national television and insulting the majority of Democrats helps? George II May 2019 #88

I have posted several threads about Joe Biden and why he would MineralMan May 2019 #94

+1000 LiberalLovinLug May 2019 #95

This thread will have zero effect on defeating Trump. MineralMan May 2019 #97

+ infinity mtnsnake May 2019 #223

So you can gripe about "superdelegates" in WV in 2016 , but everyone else must be "positive?" ehrnst May 2019 #245

He's only on the talk shows because they want conflict.... FarPoint May 2019 #84

It's what I've come to expect from the Independent senator from Vermont. comradebillyboy May 2019 #93

Bernie not a Democrat marehare May 2019 #96

You say all your posts were "taken down?" cwydro May 2019 #225

It'll be interesting to see if he'll declare himself a third party candidate. Texin May 2019 #104

I certainly hope not. MineralMan May 2019 #109

How Rational is it for Someone to Expect Support From an Organization That Person Refuses to Join? dlk May 2019 #106

Well, if Senator Sanders gets the nomination, he'll get MineralMan May 2019 #110

At least provide some context, some link. Or is this just a generic Bernie Bash? LiberalLovinLug May 2019 #117

The Meet the Press transcript is readily available. MineralMan May 2019 #118

At least quote the part you found offensive. Voltaire2 May 2019 #135

I did, in a post in this thread. MineralMan May 2019 #136

thank you LiberalLovinLug May 2019 #137

Here you go: MineralMan May 2019 #138

This is the reason blue-wave May 2019 #119

Well, he's running as a Democrat, like he did in 2016. MineralMan May 2019 #123

Irritating, isn't he? Won't support the party. Criticizes the party. Somehow fails to give the GOP-- Hekate May 2019 #120

Your union analogy is a good one. MineralMan May 2019 #124

BS Bashes the Dem Party to Build Cha May 2019 #161

Because, of course, he did.. he never stops.. Cha May 2019 #141

I've been a Dem since 1972 when I voted for the very first time. stopbush May 2019 #146

+100 MineralMan May 2019 #147

Agreed, but this is still pot-stirring. ;) n/t Laelth May 2019 #151

BS needs to be exposed for what Cha May 2019 #158

Primaries are like bechamel sauce. MineralMan May 2019 #184

I just watched replay of this morning MTP and I have to say that I support Senator Sanders more then CentralMass May 2019 #164

What are you talking about? Is there a link? George Eliot May 2019 #191

Sorry. I missed "MTP" - I've quit watching. Todd is Republican lite IMO. George Eliot May 2019 #193

Bernie seems to be setting up his supporters to be a problem. Blue_true May 2019 #195

Oh, he's had lots of practice.. Cha May 2019 #220

I really doubt that sanders will be the nominee of the party Gothmog May 2019 #249

Well, I don't think he will, either, but for a different reason: MineralMan May 2019 #251

Thanks. This is the first time I have rejoiced at having 2 dozen candidates in the race... Hekate May 2019 #256

Now, that's funny, right there, I don't care who you are... MineralMan May 2019 #257

Bernie doesn't play well with others. You want dnc support, be a democrat. Irishxs May 2019 #276