Bernie Sanders

Joe Chi Minh

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22. It's a good dog-whistle. Politic is the art of the possible.

Sun May 17, 2015, 09:41 AM

May 2015

I should think he's saying:

'Don't expect me to be Republican light. If I don't go down the full Socialist road, it's not because I allow myself to be brainwashed by the would-be demonizers of anyone to the left of Genghis Khan - or when Khan's in a more docile mood, Reagan. The idea that 'Socialist' is a dirty word is beyond laughable.... especially when you see the American alternative. But that's all we have to work with right now - the status quo. I just don't want the opposition to be soiling their pants to the detriment of my prospects - our prospects.

I could be wrong in that, in any case, but I doubt it. He knows better than to shout it from the roof-tops.

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What the hell is an "avowed Democratic Socialist," anyway? [View all] merrily May 2015 OP

Whenever I see that phrase, "Avowed Democratic Socialist" - I feel the rest of that dog whistle djean111 May 2015 #1

Who believes in working within capitalism AND the Democratic Party. merrily May 2015 #3

Correct - HRC - Hope And Change Redux - America Never Seems To Learn cantbeserious May 2015 #4

If you are implying that Bernie is insincere, may I remind you that this is a group for merrily May 2015 #15

Implying Just The Opposite - Others Are Not Sincere cantbeserious May 2015 #23

OK. In that case, post is consistent with supporting Bernie for President (and beyond). merrily May 2015 #24

Bernie Has My Full Support For Both The Primaries And The General Election cantbeserious May 2015 #26

Yep. Good for you. merrily May 2015 #27

Bernie Ain't A Commie Marxist RoccoR5955 May 2015 #16

Yep. SusanCalvin May 2015 #32

Jamie Dimon, Jackpine Radical May 2015 #38

! SusanCalvin May 2015 #39

A perfect description. riqster Jun 2015 #53

Thanks. Lots clarified here. K and R. n/t Smarmie Doofus May 2015 #2

I've asked that myself malthaussen May 2015 #5

Yeah, but.... merrily May 2015 #14

It's a good dog-whistle. Politic is the art of the possible. Joe Chi Minh May 2015 #22

Exactly right. fasttense May 2015 #17

Jeb Bush, avowed Republican… Jackpine Radical May 2015 #40

I see it that way myself... malthaussen May 2015 #42

The 'radical right' in this country would be the Freikorps that showed up at the KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #54

Agreed, but they are never called that. malthaussen Jun 2015 #55

Maybe if we stoped looking at kacekwl May 2015 #6

AGREED! Labels are not a problem for me. I do think it's helpful to have info handy when merrily May 2015 #9

I could rant about repiggies all day rock May 2015 #7

Thanks. From what I've seen on this board, Republicans are not the only ones who are merrily May 2015 #13

Bernie might be a socialist at heart, he calls himself that, Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #8

I thought he calls himself a Democratic Socialist and an Independent. merrily May 2015 #11

For me democratic socialism just means socialism with democracy Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #18

"Political democracy, regulation of the economy and a welfare state" could easily have been used to merrily May 2015 #29

Yeah I don't disagree with anything you've said. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #45

Thank you for that. I am glad I looked into this. It's been interesting. merrily May 2015 #48

I don't think of it as the government owning businesses but rather as a system in which JDPriestly May 2015 #28

When you say "it" in your subject line, does "it" refer to socialism, or to Democratic Socialism? merrily May 2015 #30

democratic socialism. The European system. Especially in German, Austria and Scandinavia. JDPriestly May 2015 #35

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." merrily May 2015 #37

FDR was married, as we know, to Eleanor Roosevelt, the niece of Teddy JDPriestly Aug 2015 #56

Well, Ahem, I happen to be a founding member (1982) of the . . FairWinds May 2015 #10

Thank you for your input! I believe my OP links, and quotes from, that website? merrily May 2015 #12

P.S. Congratulations on having been a founding member. That must have been so exciting. merrily May 2015 #31

I always thought I was a Democrat. Now I know I am a Democratic Socialist Autumn May 2015 #19

Surprise! merrily May 2015 #33

K&R! Thanks, learned a lot from this. Dustlawyer May 2015 #20

Me, too! And you're more than welcome. merrily May 2015 #34

K & R !!! Thespian2 May 2015 #21

When I see the words, "democratic socialist," I think Germany and Austria and generally JDPriestly May 2015 #25

"Liberal" also has a somewhat different connotation in Europe than it does in the US. merrily May 2015 #36

Thank you Merrily. Very informative. jwirr May 2015 #41

You're most welcome. My pleasure. I learned from putting it together. merrily May 2015 #43

More info on US Democratic Socialists FairWinds May 2015 #44

Thank you. It's very true that merrily May 2015 #47

The traditional definition of socialism is public ownership of all means of production eridani May 2015 #46

Thank you. A lot has been devoted for many years to make merrily May 2015 #51

The definition of democratic socialism vive la commune May 2015 #49

Bernie calls himself a Democratic Socialist, not a Social Democrat, and an Independent. merrily May 2015 #50

^ Good analysis. TBF May 2015 #52

Agreed and some amplifications. stevenleser Aug 2015 #60

Bernie Sanders tells us what it means to be a Democratic Socialist. merrily Aug 2015 #57

Currently I am a registered democrat for over 25 year but when people ask me I tell them I am a walkthewalkorstfu Aug 2015 #58

LOL! Thank you. The New Deal and the Great Society are great examples of Democratic Socialism. merrily Aug 2015 #59

Bernie needs to have a "What is Democratic Socialism" section on his website and needs to educate... jessjgonz Nov 2015 #61

Have you considered contacting his campaign about this? merrily Nov 2015 #62