Bernie Sanders

madfloridian

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43. It takes more than one to hold a conversation.

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 05:54 PM

Jul 2015

The first year of desegregation many years ago...a parent got angry with me over something that I was required to do.

I was going through some deep personal crises at the time, raising two little ones on my own.

She was so mad at me. She yelled that I was up in my white ivory tower judging all of the new students. I said whoa, you come in here and sit down and hear about my ivory tower.

She listened. We ended up with hugs and a few tears on each side.

She was one of my biggest defenders at a time in the 60s when we as teachers needed all the friends we could get.

We both listened through our anger.

I can not listen when someone is constantly on the attack. I posted words Bernie spoke which should be acknowledged. Then I am told that what he did doesn't matter. Really? Truly? A lifetime of good works doesn't matter? My ears do not like to hear that.

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They were not "humble enough" and had to be shut down.Words of BLM founder. [View all] madfloridian Jul 2015 OP

I won't hold my breath waiting to see if they do this to HRC n/t n2doc Jul 2015 #1

I won't either. madfloridian Jul 2015 #17

Self-Promoting Narcissists seems to be in charge. uhnope Jul 2015 #132

Don't expect them to do it to the Republicans, either Warpy Jul 2015 #37

Certainly their actions seem to support one candidate n2doc Jul 2015 #39

She's going to be given immunity since she answered a BLM question on Facebook today arcane1 Jul 2015 #41

Saw that. She was given 48 hours to answer n2doc Jul 2015 #47

Only the "base" that still can claim to be upper middle class. Warpy Jul 2015 #46

If a group overplays its hand, or is made to look like they are ... Babel_17 Jul 2015 #59

It's flat out impossible to do it to Clinton--or any Republican eridani Jul 2015 #86

I don't believe that she will ever be a target. Was never meant to be. jwirr Jul 2015 #170

Oh, and feel free... madfloridian Jul 2015 #2

They're treating those that are most likely to help SoapBox Jul 2015 #3

And people are actually being told to shut up. madfloridian Jul 2015 #4

essentially, only "certain people" are allowed an opinion Skittles Jul 2015 #58

.... madfloridian Jul 2015 #61

it is an attempt to shut down debate Skittles Jul 2015 #62

Yes. madfloridian Jul 2015 #63

That is sometimes (though far from always) a convenient cudgel to shut down white liberals TheKentuckian Jul 2015 #141

The dynamic you describe has been going on for nearly 50 years... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #177

I don't think there is is a way to win DU, unless you own it or get paid to post or merrily Jul 2015 #90

I don't know about Sanders, but O'Malley couldn't have been more humble BeyondGeography Jul 2015 #5

He wasn't humble enough. madfloridian Jul 2015 #7

I thought Bernie came out better, actually BeyondGeography Jul 2015 #8

This group has great media access. madfloridian Jul 2015 #10

Bernie knows the lessons learned in the '60s Babel_17 Jul 2015 #64

"he was directed to wrap up his discussion with Sanders" . Interesting Autumn Jul 2015 #6

Another Spot On post Autumn. 2banon Jul 2015 #74

Vargas ended it, not Bernie. merrily Jul 2015 #91

Did you read the comments after the Raw Story article? madfloridian Jul 2015 #110

I was criticized for using the term "BLM" PADemD Jul 2015 #155

I noted that Manatee *bloop* as well. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #178

"not humble enough"..they were trying to break them. Those are telling words. madfloridian Jul 2015 #9

I don't know about that, but I do admit I haven't seen any explanation of Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #11

A disruptive protester says the scheduled speakers weren't humble enough. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #16

I know, right? madfloridian Jul 2015 #20

I'm sure that billionaires think Bernie isn't sufficiently humble either, snagglepuss Jul 2015 #42

You know mad, that "They were not "humble enough" Autumn Jul 2015 #76

Yes, it goes to motive....they wanted to put them in their place. madfloridian Jul 2015 #83

Suggesting the blm activists might act more "humble' in whathehell Jul 2015 #103

If this is the attitude, then there is strong justification when folks don't talk... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #179

Just saw your post. This part: madfloridian Jul 2015 #186

There is a difference between now and then... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #187

I don't think they would resist if.... madfloridian Jul 2015 #188

There is a peculiar and corrosive dynamic at DU which demands one genuflect... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #189

If "humble enough" means twiddling their thumbs TexasBushwhacker Jul 2015 #190

Which "humble" republican would they prefer? nt jomin41 Jul 2015 #12

Good question. madfloridian Jul 2015 #21

Hillary. Scuba Jul 2015 #23

And that's the answer. nt TBF Jul 2015 #34

Darn - you beat me to it. They 840high Jul 2015 #71

Unfortunately if She wins they may get a position Tommymac Jul 2015 #94

I remember it well. madfloridian Jul 2015 #191

they are humble before their Billionaire masters n/t virtualobserver Jul 2015 #53

Clinton because optics and connections or some such absurd, reality mooning nonsense TheKentuckian Jul 2015 #146

I've been DUing piece meal over the last week so I'm a bit out of the loop. Half-Century Man Jul 2015 #13

There is group now in GDP telling people to hush, to shut up about it. madfloridian Jul 2015 #19

You know, I did my best to be as gentle with you as I could in that thread last night. scarletwoman Jul 2015 #49

Oh, yes, the victimhood again. madfloridian Jul 2015 #50

Oh, and thanks for being gentle. madfloridian Jul 2015 #51

omg. what condescending bs 2banon Jul 2015 #75

Not to worry, I will make sure to not post in this group again. scarletwoman Jul 2015 #78

This message board is loaded with sugary condescension Babel_17 Jul 2015 #97

hmm. I'll take that into advisement.. thanks. 2banon Jul 2015 #138

Sometimes people do more to abelenkpe Jul 2015 #137

I already had that experience with this poster.....over racial issues. msanthrope Jul 2015 #111

"that poster" you think is racist is posting in the Bernie group...NOT GDP madfloridian Jul 2015 #116

I have never called you a racist, madflo. I think your conduct msanthrope Jul 2015 #118

" y'all need to chill out or its going to be a damn short campaign for your candidate." madfloridian Jul 2015 #119

some study of the Streisand effect would benefit you guys quite a bit. msanthrope Jul 2015 #121

It is not about Bernie. It is about mutual respect. madfloridian Jul 2015 #123

no one owes Bernie any respect. he's a presidential candidate let him earn it. msanthrope Jul 2015 #127

He has earned respect marym625 Jul 2015 #145

"utter over reaction" "utter cluelessness" madfloridian Jul 2015 #120

seriously you all have been posting OPs when you should have been asking questions and listening msanthrope Jul 2015 #124

There you go again. madfloridian Jul 2015 #125

quoting Ronald Reagan to me doesn't exactly make your point now does it? nt msanthrope Jul 2015 #129

Well, when you come into the Bernie forum for some digs at me.... madfloridian Jul 2015 #134

so your go to source is Ronald Reagan? nt msanthrope Jul 2015 #136

That's a quote from Ronald Reagan like Ladies and gentlemen is a quote from him. Autumn Jul 2015 #144

Implied it all over the forum...might as well have said it out loud. madfloridian Jul 2015 #122

I'm white and nobody makes me feel guilty about it. msanthrope Jul 2015 #126

You are judging my conduct and my character now? Really? madfloridian Jul 2015 #128

not at all. I think your conduct and your character speaks clearly to every single msanthrope Jul 2015 #131

Yes, YOUR conduct speaks volumes BuelahWitch Jul 2015 #142

This is the Bernie Sanders group. Please post accordingly Autumn Jul 2015 #139

Kick her ass out! BuelahWitch Jul 2015 #143

It's okay. Let the words stand. madfloridian Jul 2015 #147

Sorry I didn't catch it sooner. But she's blocked Autumn Jul 2015 #150

Thanks, Autumn madfloridian Jul 2015 #151

Gonna be nice when all this is over Autumn Jul 2015 #152

.... madfloridian Jul 2015 #153

I almost feel bad, I blocked a Bernie Sanders supporter!!!! Oh Noes!!!! Autumn Jul 2015 #156

No worries marym625 Jul 2015 #158

...... madfloridian Jul 2015 #162

With a Hilary avatar yet! n/t BuelahWitch Jul 2015 #165

She's gone Autumn Jul 2015 #149

. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #164

I know. If only people were able to read the SOP for our group or had someone read it for them, Autumn Jul 2015 #173

All I did is go in the BSG and insult all of them. AND THEY BANNED ME FOR IT!!1! beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #175

God we are terrible. Skinner should have made us our own site and made us all go there. Autumn Jul 2015 #182

BernieHasMoMoJo beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #183

... Autumn Jul 2015 #184

lol did you see this post? madfloridian Jul 2015 #174

The Bundy Ranch? Well I call that place the Pity Party Palace. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #176

Thank you BuelahWitch Jul 2015 #166

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service Lordquinton Jul 2015 #163

*guerrilla Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #22

Thanks, posted in a parking lot, lack of resources there, Half-Century Man Jul 2015 #44

Did RawStory watch the video? HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #14

I posted the videos. madfloridian Jul 2015 #15

I guess they don't want help from whites. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #18

As I said... SoapBox Jul 2015 #24

There are some interesting comments after the CNN article. madfloridian Jul 2015 #25

If BLM wants my respect back, let them go after GOP candidates. . . DinahMoeHum Jul 2015 #26

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #29

I think calling them thugs is unfair, even if their tactics are wrong. Nt HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #30

Agreed. I'd add "inaccurate" and "counter-productive" in addition to "unfair" n/t arcane1 Jul 2015 #31

Yes. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #33

Agreed once again! arcane1 Jul 2015 #35

I'm not going to hold my breath for them. historylovr Jul 2015 #117

Castigating the wrong people is as bad as letting the culpable of the hook, Hillary still orpupilofnature57 Jul 2015 #27

That makes it sound like it wasn't about their concerns, but about doing a PR stunt arcane1 Jul 2015 #28

They deliberately put them on the spot and embarrassed them. madfloridian Jul 2015 #36

After watching the videos and evaluating, agreed. Tommymac Jul 2015 #95

I think there is one more reason for this event. To keep the issue in the public eye. I have no jwirr Jul 2015 #172

That was my thought too, and I've been struggling with a diplomatic way to say it. historylovr Jul 2015 #40

Rubbish. They were rude and only wanted to listen to themselves. Warpy Jul 2015 #32

I agree about the 60s. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #38

Remember the 1968 protests at the Democratic National Convention? Warpy Jul 2015 #45

Yep, I remember. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #48

Catch 22: If we protest the establishment we lose, and if we don't protest, we also lose. merrily Jul 2015 #88

What lost was the violence Warpy Jul 2015 #112

I don't think either kind of protest works. merrily Jul 2015 #159

Oh, I agree with what you're saying, I'm just telling it like it was Warpy Jul 2015 #160

Not only that it was crushed, but who crushed it. merrily Jul 2015 #161

We got Nixon twice because Turd Blossom Used Computer technology bobalew Jul 2015 #60

Also, Roger Ailes was a media advisor for Nixons campaign. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #67

Bookmarked. I love info that cuts back against the notion that we lose unless we merrily Jul 2015 #89

That was Walter Cronkite wilsonbooks Jul 2015 #73

It takes more than one to hold a conversation. madfloridian Jul 2015 #43

Listening on both sides. onecaliberal Jul 2015 #52

Agree aspirant Jul 2015 #54

That morning, there was a BLM panel discussion. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #55

Not the path to victory these leaders are hoping for Babel_17 Jul 2015 #56

idiots Skittles Jul 2015 #57

Thank You For That... WillyT Jul 2015 #65

Worth reading Babel_17 Jul 2015 #66

Thanks, love to read Oliver Willis's stuff. madfloridian Jul 2015 #68

+1 840high Jul 2015 #80

That's basically what I've been thinking. LuvNewcastle Jul 2015 #92

Yup. IMO they have marginalized their own voices in exchange for a brief moment in the sun. Tommymac Jul 2015 #96

Having a reputation for ambush and breaking agreements ... Babel_17 Jul 2015 #98

I will not vote for Hillary Clinton. This was a set-up by the Third Way, Zorra Jul 2015 #69

You make a good comment. madfloridian Jul 2015 #70

I must admit I hadn't followed what would be happening at NN, but wow historylovr Jul 2015 #72

Good point. 840high Jul 2015 #81

I have to admit that I needed that to be pointed out Babel_17 Jul 2015 #100

That is a good point you are raising TM99 Jul 2015 #102

What exactly does "humble enough" look like? napi21 Jul 2015 #77

There was nothing the candidates could have said. HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #79

Your post is correct. Nothing they said mattered. The agenda mattered. madfloridian Jul 2015 #84

It was about a demonstration of power Babel_17 Jul 2015 #99

You are right - they did not come to listen. 840high Jul 2015 #82

Another video of protests from CNN. madfloridian Jul 2015 #85

I thought Vargas had to end Bernie's appearance because the demonstrations and merrily Jul 2015 #87

I wonder exactly who told him to end it. madfloridian Jul 2015 #107

If our msm were not so vile, someone might be grilling Vargas on that and more. merrily Jul 2015 #108

Will be watching for humility on the repub side oldandhappy Jul 2015 #93

if they do it to all but the most powerful candidates and republicans HFRN Jul 2015 #101

The more I think about that phrase, the more it pisses me off. historylovr Jul 2015 #104

Kick... FloriTexan Jul 2015 #105

Please note Zorra's post..this was intended to be a week-end for Latino community. madfloridian Jul 2015 #106

Ditto. SoapBox Jul 2015 #113

BTW this is NOT about protecting Bernie Sanders. He's a big boy who can defend himself. madfloridian Jul 2015 #109

Also ditto. SoapBox Jul 2015 #114

Thanks.. madfloridian Jul 2015 #115

Wow, good thing I stayed out of GDP. madfloridian Jul 2015 #130

Nothing will ever be "humble enough". pa28 Jul 2015 #133

This is just my opinion, and I feel safe saying it here. Blue_In_AK Jul 2015 #135

Well said, Blue. madfloridian Jul 2015 #140

You said it far better than I... peacebird Jul 2015 #181

It's all okay now..CNN says Bernie acting humble now. madfloridian Jul 2015 #148

Way to make enemies, Stupid. Warpy Jul 2015 #154

IMO #BLM has invalidated itself with their tactic. L0oniX Jul 2015 #157

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #167

Got an alert on this and that's the only reason I am here. nc4bo Jul 2015 #168

Jury results MerryBlooms Jul 2015 #169

Glad I didn't see it madfloridian Jul 2015 #171

"Not humble enough"? Ok, when are they going to shout down HRC and the Repub candidates ? peacebird Jul 2015 #180

Yes, there is much need for that group. The purpose is a good one. madfloridian Jul 2015 #185