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RiverLover

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35. When will the media learn? Conservatives are not “centrists”! (Another article by RJE)
Sun Jan 11, 2015, 07:42 AM
Jan 2015

This pretty much points to what we've been saying here lately~

When will the media learn? Conservatives are not “centrists”!
From Chris Christie to Third Way, the political class mislabels the political center. Here's why it's so dangerous
R.J. Eskow 12/13/13

....The Minneapolis Star-Tribune reported on “a rift between centrists and leftists in the Democratic Party” and lamented that this prevented stronger steps to reduce the deficit. The Star Tribune even included a quote from the co-chair of Third Way, which it described as “a centrist think tank.”

Third Way was in the news last week too, in a story that had media outlets tossing out the “C” word like candy.

“Elizabeth Warren Fires Back at Centrist Dems on Social Security,” read the headline in liberal Mother Jones. “Coalition of Liberals Strikes Back at Criticism From Centrist Democrats,” said the headline in the New York Times. “Elizabeth Warren and Centrist Democrats Are Already at War,” read New York magazine’s header.

...The Democratic Party-friendly Talking Points Memo website wrote of “centrist group Third Way.” The Washington Post wrote that “Centrist Democratic think tank Third Way came under fire from some liberals.”

If we are to live in a world where words have meaning, they really should stop doing that.

The generally accepted definition of “centrism,” found in the Free Dictionary and elsewhere, is “The political philosophy of avoiding the extremes of right and left by taking a moderate position.” Similarly, a “centrist” is defined as “one who takes a position in the political center.”

The polling data is clear: If anybody should be called a “centrist” in last week’s conflict, it’s Elizabeth Warren and those who agree with her.

...A 2012 Angus Reid Public Opinion poll showed that the number of Americans who believed this country should “renegotiate” or “leave” the North American Free Trade Agreement outnumbered those who felt otherwise by nearly 4-to-1. That was the opinion of most Republicans, Democrats and independents. In a related finding, 60 percent of those polled by the Gallup organization earlier this year said that they would be willing to pay more for products purchased in the United States.

By contrast, Third Way is pushing the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a free trade deal that is even more aggressive than NAFTA.

How about taxation? A recent poll by Americans for Tax Fairness showed that 79 percent of respondents favored closing tax loopholes for corporations, 71 percent favored a 30 percent minimum tax rate for millionaires, and 69 percent supported ending the carried-interest loophole, which has kept tax rates low for hedge funders.

In last week’s Op-Ed, Third Way’s founders blithely dismissed all of the above as “fantasy.”

The Third Way outburst against Sen. Warren was triggered by her statement of support for Sen. Tom Harkin’s bill to increase Social Security benefits. There, too, Third Way’s opinions diverge sharply from those of the mainstream. A poll by the National Academy for Social Insurance found that “Fully 74% of Republicans and 88% of Democrats agree that ‘it is critical to preserve Social Security even if it means increasing Social Security taxes paid by working Americans.’”...

http://www.salon.com/2013/12/13/when_will_the_media_learn_conservatives_are_not_centrists/



So, Third Way is Far Right (rethug), and WE are the centrists! ha! How the media manipulates labels & our thinking...





Kick! haikugal Jan 2015 #1
because they are really republican sympathizers orcloset cases? nt msongs Jan 2015 #2
I think they are moderate Republicans. On issues like women's rights etc they sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #3
+1,000 Scuba Jan 2015 #7
+1! Enthusiast Jan 2015 #9
They are "liberal" on issues that don't cost the 1% money. on all the others they are Doctor_J Jan 2015 #12
Exactly, moderate on issues that don't cost Wall St anything. What WOULD cost Wall St sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #21
It is actually a travesty that needs to be explained to the brain dead. world wide wally Jan 2015 #4
I have done that and the contrast between his focus on the needs of the PEOPLE and the current sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #22
REALLY great info, thanks! And even scarier? Third Way is just "the tip of the iceberg" RiverLover Jan 2015 #5
"largely unseen" aspirant Jan 2015 #15
Well, we've seen this a lot over the past number of years: sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #19
Great post. nm rhett o rick Jan 2015 #26
This isn't terribly difficult to understand ... Scuba Jan 2015 #6
K&R! This post should have wider exposure. And it should have hundreds of recommendations. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #8
Yes, the party is fucked up. Which is why you won't see hundreds of djean111 Jan 2015 #13
In criticizing Obama aspirant Jan 2015 #16
You are just supposed to concentrate on those lollipops, as far as I can tell. djean111 Jan 2015 #18
And realize that if you don't vote, you'll just get the apples with no lollipops Doctor_J Jan 2015 #37
One reason I like the idea of this Group is that this is where these discussions should be held. rhett o rick Jan 2015 #23
Thanks, excellent article. But it doesn't appear to be by William Black. eomer Jan 2015 #10
Thank you for the correction, I will edit. I was reading Black's article at the same time, which are sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #17
Because they pretend to be Democrats. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2015 #11
And they scream that we have to support them because we must be loyal to all Democrats. rhett o rick Jan 2015 #25
They're ex-Republicans (as is Hillary, for example) who find the current Republicans Lydia Leftcoast Jan 2015 #14
Serious points, but you still made me LOL! Thanks!! RiverLover Jan 2015 #20
You nailed it LL dflprincess Jan 2015 #28
Lol! 'The Party of Conservative People Who Don't Care Who You Sleep With'! sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #33
^^^^^^^^ DonCoquixote Feb 2015 #57
This is a great thread. One of the best I've seen in a while and not surprised it's by sabrina. rhett o rick Jan 2015 #24
Thanks rhett, but it's no longer difficult to find material on these Wall St infiltrators. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #30
Because they aren't democrats. Nt abelenkpe Jan 2015 #27
HUGE K and R bbgrunt Jan 2015 #29
Exactly. So many pieces fall into place when you learn the facts. Thankfully many people are now sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #31
K&R! blackspade Jan 2015 #32
Good post/framing of events K&R (nt) Babel_17 Jan 2015 #34
When will the media learn? Conservatives are not “centrists”! (Another article by RJE) RiverLover Jan 2015 #35
"If we are to live in a world where words have meaning, they really should stop doing that." delrem Jan 2015 #36
'Reality based community' was a Third Way phrase designed to make Liberals look sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #39
I thought Karl Rove coined that phrase nxylas Jan 2015 #42
I'd rather be aspirant Jan 2015 #40
That is another excellent article. Labels & Talking points are something that should be discussed sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #38
It's been extremely eye-opening, reading about 3rd Way, and then seeing the spin RiverLover Jan 2015 #41
Cowen and Kessler's argument has already mutated nxylas Jan 2015 #43
PP'S vs LWP's, how many P's will we end up with? aspirant Jan 2015 #44
Left is good. Hillary is right of center. So don't let them frame the discussion. Take their sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #45
Thank you Sabrina! TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #46
Pin of the Week! demwing Jan 2015 #47
Thank you demwing! sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #48
Great post as always, Sabrina Oilwellian Feb 2015 #49
Thanks Orwellian, it really is a great forum, a lot like the old DU when people were able to discuss sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #50
The members of the "Third Wary" are members of the Democratic party. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #51
The Third Way is politically agnostic. They are not Democrats. The are a Wall St backed Think Tank. sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #52
They are registered Democrats, so that does make them Democrats, by definition Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #55
By definition that actually makes them infiltrators within the party Dragonfli Feb 2015 #58
By the Democratic Party's rules they are Democrats. Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #59
I don't like their fiscal policies because they are Republican fiscal policies Dragonfli Feb 2015 #60
Because the 3rdWay PR folks used 2naSalit Feb 2015 #53
Pull any strand of the anti labor, pro capitalist spider web and you find the same spiders. Warpy Feb 2015 #54
Because all that matters is electing people who put a "D" next to their names. Maedhros Feb 2015 #56
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