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Showing Original Post only (View all)I think it's important that everyone in our group knows what we are up against. [View all]
I don't suggest responding to this META post, and I will not even give a link to it or identify the poster.
However, this is a glimpse at the small but vocal group of bullies, true agenda. Have your say here in the safety of our group. I want to emphasize this is just the false accustions of a small minority of the actual members of DU who are carrying out a personal vendetta against our group. The greater majority of DUers are either with us or have no opinion or don't even know about any of this crap. Don't be fooled by their brash outrageous, boisterous, false postings. We have support, plenty of support.
59. It's a pretty important question. I think you nailed part of the answer
As did several other folks.
The other thing implied and not said by several folks is, at what point do groups become so toxic that they are making DU suck and thus should be disbanded and several of the most disruptive members ppr'd.
We all get the controversy of having a rtkba group on a Democratic site, but the strong negative reactions to the HoF group, particularly compared to the other feminism groups is striking.
A large portion of the DU community seems to be saying to HoF "As far as being good DU citizens is concerned, you are doing it wrong". Instead of getting the message, the denizens of that group keep doubling down on their toxic behavior. Several of the folks from that group also seem to say on occasion that they want their group left alone. Sorry but it doesn't work that way. HoF is not its own website, it's part of DU, and yes, the rest of us can comment if we think you are doing it wrong, more so if we think you are doing it wrong egregiously.
When you have numbers of folks trashing that group like HoF has, when you have regular arbitrary and capricious blockings of other DUers who follow links into the group or some who have been blocked for mysterious reasons, in fact when becoming blocked from that group starts being worn as a medal by DU members as it has with HoF, when most of the divisive and ugly threads on DU seem to involve the members of that group, that group clearly has major issues.
I don't see this ending in kumbaya. The members of HoF have developed a persecution complex about how their group is perceived instead of recognizing that if it's this many DUers, it is they who have the issue. The issue is not the 50+ DUers who have trashed their group, not the over dozen DUers in good standing that they have blocked. Incidentally, the number of folks trashing HoF plus the number blocked just about equals subscribed members of the group. That's a lot of negativity, which brings me back to my original point, when you look at this in its entirety, at what point do you say these folks are utterly failing at being good members of DU. At what point do you say that instead of using the privilege of a safe haven for positive communication, they are instead using it as a silo for group think, development of persecution complexes and divisiveness.
As did several other folks.
The other thing implied and not said by several folks is, at what point do groups become so toxic that they are making DU suck and thus should be disbanded and several of the most disruptive members ppr'd.
We all get the controversy of having a rtkba group on a Democratic site, but the strong negative reactions to the HoF group, particularly compared to the other feminism groups is striking.
A large portion of the DU community seems to be saying to HoF "As far as being good DU citizens is concerned, you are doing it wrong". Instead of getting the message, the denizens of that group keep doubling down on their toxic behavior. Several of the folks from that group also seem to say on occasion that they want their group left alone. Sorry but it doesn't work that way. HoF is not its own website, it's part of DU, and yes, the rest of us can comment if we think you are doing it wrong, more so if we think you are doing it wrong egregiously.
When you have numbers of folks trashing that group like HoF has, when you have regular arbitrary and capricious blockings of other DUers who follow links into the group or some who have been blocked for mysterious reasons, in fact when becoming blocked from that group starts being worn as a medal by DU members as it has with HoF, when most of the divisive and ugly threads on DU seem to involve the members of that group, that group clearly has major issues.
I don't see this ending in kumbaya. The members of HoF have developed a persecution complex about how their group is perceived instead of recognizing that if it's this many DUers, it is they who have the issue. The issue is not the 50+ DUers who have trashed their group, not the over dozen DUers in good standing that they have blocked. Incidentally, the number of folks trashing HoF plus the number blocked just about equals subscribed members of the group. That's a lot of negativity, which brings me back to my original point, when you look at this in its entirety, at what point do you say these folks are utterly failing at being good members of DU. At what point do you say that instead of using the privilege of a safe haven for positive communication, they are instead using it as a silo for group think, development of persecution complexes and divisiveness.
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I think it's important that everyone in our group knows what we are up against. [View all]
boston bean
Jun 2012
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mobbing. really, it is a real thing. tomorrow i am going to do more research and see if i can lay
seabeyond
Jun 2012
#9
Here's another... showing the tactics of those who want to shut down our group
boston bean
Jun 2012
#4
" I'm with you all, SISTERS!" yup. and LL "If that makes me a bad DU'er then so be it"
seabeyond
Jun 2012
#13
Liberal Loner, what you just wrote is why it is so important for this group to be a safe haven...
Little Star
Jun 2012
#16
I just want to recognize that there were a few DUers--not regulars in our group-- who did stand up
hlthe2b
Jun 2012
#20
+1, I consider them very brave for speaking up. And I thank then very much for doing so...
Little Star
Jun 2012
#36
I don't see this being anything but an atypical occurrence.. We really do want to leave Meta in Meta
hlthe2b
Jun 2012
#47
Some post complaints about HoF in meta because of a not unjustified expectation
lumberjack_jeff
Jun 2012
#45
you are really leaving out the factor of some posters purposely coming in here to be disruptive
seabeyond
Jun 2012
#46
"So why in the hell should this group keep trying to appease their abusers?"
laconicsax
Jun 2012
#55
I have been active on DU for almost 10 years now and I have just under 20,000 posts...
Rowdyboy
Jun 2012
#61