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seabeyond

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62. exactly. so as offended as the men may be on this board that we are reading, that is how women feel

Reply to Hatchling (Reply #59)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 02:09 PM

Jun 2012

being projected with this bullshit. it feels crappy all the way around.

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Valerie Solanas and the S.C.U.M. Manifesto. [View all] BlueIris Jun 2012 OP

Oh yes, I've read it. It's brilliant satire. redqueen Jun 2012 #1

I read it when it first came out Warpy Jun 2012 #2

Yes, she herself said it was satire. redqueen Jun 2012 #3

She seems to have taken it pretty seriously. Shortly after publishing it, she shot Warhol, Amaya... lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #29

Do you seriously think she shot Warhol as the beginning of an effort to eliminate men? redqueen Jun 2012 #31

No. I think we can agree that she did it because she was crazy. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #34

dont make more of it than what it is. most of us are too young to even know who this woman is. seabeyond Jun 2012 #32

"a brilliant work of satire" lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #35

We get it. You disagree. redqueen Jun 2012 #36

so.... nt seabeyond Jun 2012 #37

and your point has been proven. n/t Scout Jun 2012 #30

Before I'd even read it or had an inkling of who she was redqueen Jun 2012 #44

Could you be more explicit in why it was necessary? Hatchling Jun 2012 #54

I thought I was quite clear about that. Warpy Jun 2012 #57

i thought so too. n/t Scout Jun 2012 #58

The satirical ravings of a very sad creature, driven insane by the all consuming hatred Zorra Jun 2012 #4

Sigh. redqueen Jun 2012 #5

exactly Scout Jun 2012 #6

Instead of running off, why don't you explain to me how this satire is not the Zorra Jun 2012 #11

laughably self-important Scout Jun 2012 #12

I guess you'd think so, if you enjoy hate speech and bigotry. nt Zorra Jun 2012 #18

I thought you were asked not to attack other members of the group? Violet_Crumble Jun 2012 #23

My warning was not heeded.You have accused members of "enjoying hate speech and bigotry" for merely hlthe2b Jun 2012 #24

"James Earl Ray shot Martin Luther King, Jr. Why? Because he was a fracking hate filled racist.. Little Star Jun 2012 #14

Zorra.. This is unacceptable. Conflating a historical piece of satire being discussed with ... hlthe2b Jun 2012 #15

OK. I totally understand. nt Zorra Jun 2012 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author boston bean Jun 2012 #25

i will read later toight. i dont know anything about it. but already seeing in this thread some seabeyond Jun 2012 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author RiffRandell Jul 2012 #72

I've never heard of this person Texasgal Jun 2012 #8

Read Jonathan Swift's A Modest Proposal as well. redqueen Jun 2012 #9

When I first read it, MadrasT Jun 2012 #10

i'm sick of the shit Scout Jun 2012 #13

I am only reminded of the out of touchness of the person whose entire Tumbulu Jun 2012 #16

This is a very thoughtful analysis MadrasT Jun 2012 #17

thanks- yes historical figure Tumbulu Jun 2012 #21

Excellent post. Lisa D Jun 2012 #20

thanks Tumbulu Jun 2012 #22

From a review of the book, posted on the Valerie Solanas tumblr: redqueen Jun 2012 #26

Thank you. MadrasT Jun 2012 #27

i read beyond halfway. really perused. then got bored. it isnt like we would be able to really seabeyond Jun 2012 #28

What's your take on Ted Kazynski? lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #33

If I were you, I'd lay off the anti-feminist MRA hate sites. redqueen Jun 2012 #38

i would probably find it interesting seabeyond Jun 2012 #39

McVeigh. Good example. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #41

no lumber, it would be more like reading his shit, saying ya, there are these issues, seabeyond Jun 2012 #43

now, when you hear me rally the battle cry that we must all take up fertilizer seabeyond Jun 2012 #47

I'm not a MRA. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #49

one can say the same with what is happening with this group by a handful of others. seabeyond Jun 2012 #51

I'm not following you. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #55

again, calling this out as a stupid manipulation on your part. stop. seabeyond Jun 2012 #40

It's a strawman. redqueen Jun 2012 #42

exactly. obvious and in the face. no shit. nt seabeyond Jun 2012 #45

Yep, it reminds me of freepers who point to "The sufrommich Jun 2012 #48

"A blip in the history of feminism"... exactly. redqueen Jun 2012 #50

excellent parallel. nt seabeyond Jun 2012 #53

Criticism of the New Black Panthers can be fairly directed at their individual defenders. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #60

Now feminists are supposed to "denunciate" the sufrommich Jun 2012 #67

This is a discussion of a historical publication, which you attack the very premise of discussing. hlthe2b Jun 2012 #46

I just read most of it. Hatchling Jun 2012 #52

Since this group is being so strictly policed, I am hesitant to use my own words. redqueen Jun 2012 #56

Okay, that helps me understand it a bit more Hatchling Jun 2012 #59

exactly. so as offended as the men may be on this board that we are reading, that is how women feel seabeyond Jun 2012 #62

What is most striking to me about her essay is not the wildly over-the-top content, redqueen Jun 2012 #63

well said. and the DEMAND, flat out, no quibbling DEMAND, that all demonize in an outloud statement seabeyond Jun 2012 #64

well said Scout Jun 2012 #65

Well said,Redqueen. nt sufrommich Jun 2012 #68

That was exactly what happened to me when I read it. MadrasT Jun 2012 #66

This. redqueen Jun 2012 #69

This is the first I've heard or read this woman. Bizarre and disturbing. MerryBlooms Jun 2012 #61

I have to agree. Texasgal Jun 2012 #70

I didn't get very far into it. It was very disturbing.. Violet_Crumble Jun 2012 #71

Note Reply #6 comment on "Solanas' reversal of Freudian bullshit" eridani Jul 2012 #73

"Freudian bullshit" saturated the culture in the 40s and 50s seabeyond Jul 2012 #74

Mainstream culture pays not the slightest attention to Freud these days eridani Jul 2012 #75

I disagree about that. redqueen Jul 2012 #76

Sure, remnants are still around. But when was the last time you heard eridani Jul 2012 #77

what it seems ot me, from what you are saying is the few things we do still hear today seabeyond Jul 2012 #78

I have a great copy ismnotwasm Jul 2012 #79

and again, i really respect your perspective on this. seabeyond Jul 2012 #80

When there are separatist and/or ethnic armed rebellions in other countries, eridani Jul 2012 #81