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Sun Feb 23, 2014, 01:02 PM

spooky3 (26,857 posts)

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I used to think people in this group exaggerated the level of misogyny on this site... [View all]	Bjorn Against	Feb 2014	OP
There is a fair amount of misandry too..	pipoman	Feb 2014	#1
This message was self-deleted by its author	MadrasT	Feb 2014	#4
If misandry was a serious problem I think that as a man I would have felt it	Bjorn Against	Feb 2014	#5
+1. nt	Democracyinkind	Feb 2014	#6
Quite a few women don't share the	pipoman	Feb 2014	#7
I don't think people who look at the swimsuit issue are necessarilly misogynistic...	Bjorn Against	Feb 2014	#10
And quite a few do. And have been very vocal about the fact that they do. And when I say	Squinch	Feb 2014	#12
Exactly. nt	SunSeeker	Feb 2014	#189
Please read about Edward Bernays,	chervilant	Feb 2014	#15
Interesting. I have "The Century of the Self" but haven't watched it yet.	arcane1	Feb 2014	#151
Please,	chervilant	Feb 2014	#180
And there are "quite a few" ...	1StrongBlackMan	Feb 2014	#35
There are?	merrily	Feb 2014	#209
Clarence Thomas ...	1StrongBlackMan	Feb 2014	#211
I get your point about Thomas and, if I am honest,	merrily	Feb 2014	#246
Maybe, I exaggerated in ...	1StrongBlackMan	Feb 2014	#247
I think this line from your link hits the nail on the head:	merrily	Feb 2014	#248
..and Allen West does not believe African Americans have been discriminated against...	hlthe2b	Feb 2014	#39
I counted five	BainsBane	Feb 2014	#110
But, but, it was posted by a WOMAN! So the menz are not even involved!!1	PassingFair	Feb 2014	#141
The real issue is whether a T & A photo belongs on a progressive political site	pnwmom	Feb 2014	#142
They've had at least three thread of HOT Celebs threads	boston bean	Feb 2014	#144
LOL. Yeah, it would be terrible if they got derailed into actually thinking. n/t	pnwmom	Feb 2014	#145
OMG.....I didn't even know those existed...Holy shit....it's even worse than I thought....	VanillaRhapsody	Feb 2014	#202
spoken like someone who has never really felt either....	VanillaRhapsody	Feb 2014	#154
+1 eom	1StrongBlackMan	Feb 2014	#26
thank you, bjorn against. I don't like anger directed at men either. What really	roguevalley	Feb 2014	#124
they think just saying "White Male Privilege" is "misandry"	VanillaRhapsody	Feb 2014	#153
LOL	Sheldon Cooper	Feb 2014	#13
and right on cue. . . .	niyad	Feb 2014	#21
No, that's just your privilege slipping away.	paleotn	Feb 2014	#24
'Bad for others = good for me' is flawed logic	pipoman	Feb 2014	#32
This line of argument is creeping into MRA ideology.	boston bean	Feb 2014	#85
OK Boston I could not agree with your more.	proudretiredvet	Feb 2014	#99
Instead of taking it personally that a feminist means	boston bean	Feb 2014	#108
that's exactly what I was thinking	passiveporcupine	Feb 2014	#175
but, if you direct your comment to an individual then that person alerts and	Tuesday Afternoon	Feb 2014	#236
If it is meant as a personal insult	passiveporcupine	Feb 2014	#244
if the truth is insulting then perhaps that poster needs step back and review their own post	Tuesday Afternoon	Feb 2014	#245
This same argument came up in a thread about white privilege. I am white. Strangely enough,	Squinch	Feb 2014	#226
Actually, it does ...	1StrongBlackMan	Feb 2014	#137
Pretending that I enjoy some privilege is closer	pipoman	Feb 2014	#148
It's about the whole of society. It's not about you personally.	cui bono	Feb 2014	#166
What's bad?	ismnotwasm	Feb 2014	#104
what is the definition of Privilege?	VanillaRhapsody	Feb 2014	#155
Who is this oh so privileged group?	pipoman	Feb 2014	#158
But ... But ... But ...	1StrongBlackMan	Feb 2014	#33
'I'm in the right' 'everyone with a different view is something best described	pipoman	Feb 2014	#38
It's not about a mere "different view" ...	1StrongBlackMan	Feb 2014	#46
Great response. +1	CrispyQ	Feb 2014	#64
+++	hlthe2b	Feb 2014	#68
.	Squinch	Feb 2014	#70
Thank you so much for saying that.	boston bean	Feb 2014	#78
....	ismnotwasm	Feb 2014	#109
anything that will lower the staggering level of rape and abuse in this country	roguevalley	Feb 2014	#125
1StrongBlackMan, I think I have a new sig line. Thank you.	roguevalley	Feb 2014	#126
And when people pretend	pipoman	Feb 2014	#157
Pretend? ...	1StrongBlackMan	Feb 2014	#191
And when people in the privileged gender or race pretend they are not privileged, they	Squinch	Feb 2014	#222
:)	BlancheSplanchnik	Feb 2014	#162
Excellent explanation. N/t	tooeyeten	Feb 2014	#163
Would that I could recommend a post	wryter2000	Feb 2014	#165
Oh so very, very, very well said.	redqueen	Feb 2014	#173
Excellent response!	thucythucy	Feb 2014	#192
Only to people who don't know what it is. nt	geek tragedy	Feb 2014	#41
Derailment tactic.	boston bean	Feb 2014	#83
And it, sadly, worked very well	Lordquinton	Feb 2014	#199
So in other words...	Scootaloo	Feb 2014	#103
I have a few reactions to your statement	WhiteTara	Feb 2014	#111
Nice repost, White Tara. I have Libra disease too in that I can see both sides as well	roguevalley	Feb 2014	#127
Thanks. Mostly I'm quoting the Dalai Lama	WhiteTara	Feb 2014	#128
that's alright, darling. Know thy self. Every thing you do is a revelation of your	roguevalley	Feb 2014	#130
...	WhiteTara	Feb 2014	#136
The Dalai Lama said "widdle feewings"??	Beartracks	Feb 2014	#168
no...that was me	WhiteTara	Feb 2014	#177
I cannot tell you how many times...	awoke_in_2003	Feb 2014	#152
How about some examples?	amuse bouche	Feb 2014	#186
...	pipoman	Feb 2014	#210
Sorry, you don't have a leg to stand on, for that one	amuse bouche	Feb 2014	#214
Stop. Just stop. You're not helping anything.	Recursion	Feb 2014	#204
The OP covered that.	merrily	Feb 2014	#207
I can only imagine that you will provide us with a valid ratio...	LanternWaste	Feb 2014	#225
You are too funny!!!	bravenak	Feb 2014	#227
I admit that it took me a long time to recognize what you are saying too and I am a woman and a	seaglass	Feb 2014	#2
I had the same epiphany a couple of years ago when the same shit went down.	Democracyinkind	Feb 2014	#3
I stop short at disbanding TMG. Other than that	Tuesday Afternoon	Feb 2014	#8
+1	TexasTowelie	Feb 2014	#131
My question is	plantwomyn	Feb 2014	#170
That was a poor word choice on my part.	TexasTowelie	Feb 2014	#182
There are many male regular participants in this group (History of Feminism--the largest of the 4)	hlthe2b	Feb 2014	#184
No, they absolutely do not exclude men. Please see my response to the other poster #184	hlthe2b	Feb 2014	#185
Bjorn, I am a woman and I had pretty much the same trajectory as you when I got here.	Squinch	Feb 2014	#9
it is unfortunate that in our lives we only get to experience truly and fully	roguevalley	Feb 2014	#129
Thank you, Bjorn, for your support and for taking a stand,	Tanuki	Feb 2014	#11
One thing that this controversy has made clear is that	Squinch	Feb 2014	#14
Taking the time to look at the recs we recieve	boston bean	Feb 2014	#86
Same here...	PasadenaTrudy	Feb 2014	#31
Thank you for this OP.	chervilant	Feb 2014	#16
+1000	ismnotwasm	Feb 2014	#123
Correct on all points.	Starry Messenger	Feb 2014	#147
That is something that's fortunately true.	cinnabonbon	Feb 2014	#216
im not awake enough to type coherently, but thanks	BlancheSplanchnik	Feb 2014	#17
just like racism, homophobia, misogyny	heaven05	Feb 2014	#18
+1	Squinch	Feb 2014	#22
+1000	JustAnotherGen	Feb 2014	#29
Thanks much, Bjorn. "Misogyny is the last acceptable bigotry of the Left",	whathehell	Feb 2014	#19
Ditto (many thanks to Bjorn), and the Pollitt quote really does seem true	frazzled	Feb 2014	#62
++++++!	BlancheSplanchnik	Feb 2014	#164
thank you very much for your support. I would expect that you will receive a lot of flak for this	niyad	Feb 2014	#20
Hearing from those whose eyes have been opened by recent DU activity...	hlthe2b	Feb 2014	#23
Thanks, I will let Skinner know my views.	Bjorn Against	Feb 2014	#51
I agree, Bjorn.	closeupready	Feb 2014	#25
K&R	Solly Mack	Feb 2014	#27
Thank you	PasadenaTrudy	Feb 2014	#28
To be frank, I have always found DU to be misogynist to a point but not	Cleita	Feb 2014	#30
You missed the Point, the objection, the whole 9 yards!	packman	Feb 2014	#40
FYI the swim suit edition of SI has always been posted on DU in the past. I've been here since 2003	Cleita	Feb 2014	#45
"Faux outrage"?	MadrasT	Feb 2014	#55
Evolution is a good thing!	CrispyQ	Feb 2014	#76
Don't bother, trying to explain how these pictures, no matter how "artistic", harm real young women	KitSileya	Feb 2014	#61
Yes, comments from my senator about running for office:	seaglass	Feb 2014	#63
The explanation that is being floated in another thread is that someone called someone a	Squinch	Feb 2014	#65
This message was self-deleted by its author	Orrex	Feb 2014	#82
Then you should have alerted... Coming in here to smear posters in this group with	hlthe2b	Feb 2014	#84
This message was self-deleted by its author	Orrex	Feb 2014	#88
Then you are merely coming here to make insinuations & stir trouble. Kindly stop it.	hlthe2b	Feb 2014	#90
This message was self-deleted by its author	Orrex	Feb 2014	#93
You are in a group with specific SOP for participation, which includes civil discussion.	hlthe2b	Feb 2014	#94
Whoops--thought this thead was posted in GD. My error.	Orrex	Feb 2014	#96
I understand... Thank you for your cooperation.	hlthe2b	Feb 2014	#97
Hlthe2b, I didn't see	Squinch	Feb 2014	#150
no problem...	hlthe2b	Feb 2014	#156
was that about what I think it was about?	Tuesday Afternoon	Feb 2014	#237
This message was self-deleted by its author	hlthe2b	Feb 2014	#240
so sick of this shit, Squinch. is this about what I think it is about?	Tuesday Afternoon	Feb 2014	#238
Yes. You saw it already. I just can't believe that was given as the reason	Squinch	Feb 2014	#241
thank you.	Tuesday Afternoon	Feb 2014	#243
No one is saying you are not adult enough to look at the pictures	Bjorn Against	Feb 2014	#43
Why can't people use the trash thread and ignore button?	Cleita	Feb 2014	#52
Why do you think the photos are appropriate for GD?	Bjorn Against	Feb 2014	#54
Perhaps you'd like to take your own advice for this thread? n/t	MadrasT	Feb 2014	#57
Why would the outrage be phony? What would be the desired result of that?	cui bono	Feb 2014	#198
Many women of my generation...	hlthe2b	Feb 2014	#44
I am respectful when I post, but when I don't get respect I will give back in kind.	Cleita	Feb 2014	#48
Consider this a warning. n/t	hlthe2b	Feb 2014	#49
Consider this a warning. Don't make threats. n/t	Cleita	Feb 2014	#53
Please stop	JustAnotherGen	Feb 2014	#56
Why did you come into this protected group to spew your shit?	Sheldon Cooper	Feb 2014	#67
^^The poster has been blocked from this group^^	hlthe2b	Feb 2014	#71
Thank you.	Sheldon Cooper	Feb 2014	#72
Bullies playing the victim. It's always the same schtick. Sad that it seems to be working for them.	Democracyinkind	Feb 2014	#77
Yes, I really appreciated being told that harassment was my fault,	KitSileya	Feb 2014	#79
Sorry you had	JustAnotherGen	Feb 2014	#92
Thank you.	spooky3	Feb 2014	#100
And under what circumstance does that allow you to accuse a rape victim of lying	boston bean	Feb 2014	#89
Look at your first sentence. You are applying the wrong standard.	spooky3	Feb 2014	#95
This message was self-deleted by its author	cleanhippie	Feb 2014	#98
Obviously, these results say far more about	spooky3	Feb 2014	#101
Actually hosts enforce SOPs	BainsBane	Feb 2014	#114
Thanks. It would be helpful if this	spooky3	Feb 2014	#116
what I do in such cases	BainsBane	Feb 2014	#117
Thanks. I'm just saying it should be easier to find	spooky3	Feb 2014	#118
This message was self-deleted by its author	cleanhippie	Feb 2014	#119
If you were not willing to read the alert	spooky3	Feb 2014	#120
^^The poster has been blocked from this group^^	hlthe2b	Feb 2014	#121
Thank you.	spooky3	Feb 2014	#122
Thank you Bjorn.	sheshe2	Feb 2014	#34
The 'mens' Group is mis-named... It is truly the MRA Group...	Ohio Joe	Feb 2014	#36
In fairness, there's hot celebrity fantasies too. nt	geek tragedy	Feb 2014	#42
LOL!	ismnotwasm	Feb 2014	#112
Which generate more responses	thucythucy	Feb 2014	#194
Interesting how it is men who are the ones pointing that out, and who, understandably,	Squinch	Feb 2014	#66
It sure is not 'The Men's Group' and it is very much misnamed.	Bluenorthwest	Feb 2014	#75
My sense is 98% of the men on this site feel the same	BainsBane	Feb 2014	#115
I agree wholeheartedly!	justhanginon	Feb 2014	#146
+100. nt	geek tragedy	Feb 2014	#221
This message was self-deleted by its author	My Good Babushka	Feb 2014	#37
So let's post porn and snuff movies, then, right?	Democracyinkind	Feb 2014	#47
No, I know, let's post blackface minstrel shows, and "sh#m%le" porn.	KitSileya	Feb 2014	#59
It's really mind-boggling. They don't even realize that they're arguing for anarchy. nt	Democracyinkind	Feb 2014	#60
This message was self-deleted by its author	My Good Babushka	Feb 2014	#134
Just how GOP Governor Corbett talks about mandatory vaginal ultrasounds	Divernan	Feb 2014	#73
This message was self-deleted by its author	My Good Babushka	Feb 2014	#135
Thank you	JustAnotherGen	Feb 2014	#50
It's good of you to come out and say that.	Whisp	Feb 2014	#58
it is important that the men of DU stand up and speak out. nt.	Warren Stupidity	Feb 2014	#69
It has become quite blatant	etherealtruth	Feb 2014	#74
Thank you.	TDale313	Feb 2014	#80
Very nice.	boston bean	Feb 2014	#81
This is the positivity of all the negativity,	CrispyQ	Feb 2014	#87
I am a female bodied person and I used to think the same thing.	MadrasT	Feb 2014	#91
I could just hug you right now. Thank you for this post.	Tuesday Afternoon	Feb 2014	#239
From a quiet member	MostlyAmused	Feb 2014	#102
Thank you for speaking up.	spooky3	Feb 2014	#106
Thank you for your comments. I hope you feel comfortable in this group. n/t	hlthe2b	Feb 2014	#107
Thank you	ismnotwasm	Feb 2014	#105
Thanks Bjorn Against	WhiteTara	Feb 2014	#113
Humongous KR ... nt	MindMover	Feb 2014	#132
You are my kind of man.	Hell Hath No Fury	Feb 2014	#133
Harassment of women here became a big issue	Warpy	Feb 2014	#138
well said!	BlancheSplanchnik	Feb 2014	#167
That's too bad.	KitSileya	Feb 2014	#171
Yes, exactly.	MadrasT	Feb 2014	#176
+1	historylovr	Feb 2014	#232
+999999999999999999999.9999999999999999999999999	AAO	Feb 2014	#139
Bjorn Against	BainsBane	Feb 2014	#140
I just made a new post in the ATA forum	Bjorn Against	Feb 2014	#172
I agree that the support has been encouraging	BainsBane	Feb 2014	#178
You made it to the greatest page...	Agschmid	Feb 2014	#188
One intelligent, thoughtful post like this makes up for dozens by the knee-jerk nasties. Thank you!	pnwmom	Feb 2014	#143
the 97 recs help too	BainsBane	Feb 2014	#149
Absolutely!	TDale313	Feb 2014	#159
It looks like it	BainsBane	Feb 2014	#161
I can't thank you enough	wryter2000	Feb 2014	#160
OPs like this confirm my instinct	sufrommich	Feb 2014	#169
Comparing HOF to the MG	A-Schwarzenegger	Feb 2014	#174
a quote that needs to be kept and put on repeat	DonCoquixote	Feb 2014	#179
What would DU be without the drama	Gman	Feb 2014	#181
Misogyny, like racism......	DeSwiss	Feb 2014	#183
Well said!	blackspade	Feb 2014	#187
I'm so encouraged by your support and that of so many	UtahLib	Feb 2014	#190
Don't fall for it. It's always the tiny handful of right wingers posing as DUers posting this trash	Sarah Ibarruri	Feb 2014	#193
Cheers.	kickysnana	Feb 2014	#195
Very well state. Thanks. n/t	freshwest	Feb 2014	#200
Noob says he went and scanned the mens group.	fleabiscuit	Feb 2014	#196
It's flourishing in GD as we speak	BainsBane	Feb 2014	#197
That's why it doesn't matter if the group goes away.	fleabiscuit	Feb 2014	#219
Thanks for a thoughtful OP. I blow these off as hopeless, usually. And appreciate this. n/t	freshwest	Feb 2014	#201
Is it misogyny or perhaps	Sherman A1	Feb 2014	#203
It is misogyny in a lot of cases.	Sheldon Cooper	Feb 2014	#212
K&R	emsimon33	Feb 2014	#205
Thank you so much.	myrna minx	Feb 2014	#206
A lot of the misogyny seems to come from those who lean right in general.	merrily	Feb 2014	#208
Some also seem to be the same people who get	sufrommich	Feb 2014	#213
you noticed it, too.	Tuesday Afternoon	Feb 2014	#215
K&R. I agree completely. The recent nonsense has been pretty eye-opening.	DanTex	Feb 2014	#217
I saw your post in ATA. The future looks grim. n/t	Whisp	Feb 2014	#218
Thank you for this OP and your question in ATA.	DURHAM D	Feb 2014	#220
K&R!	hrmjustin	Feb 2014	#223
SKINNER: "So we're genuinely conflicted. Do we lay down the law,	A-Schwarzenegger	Feb 2014	#224
Thanks, I was at work so I was unable to provide a response to Skinner right away	Bjorn Against	Feb 2014	#229
Your response was thoughtful and well presented.	MadrasT	Feb 2014	#230
Amen.	A-Schwarzenegger	Feb 2014	#231
I think your insight about where juries fail was spot on. A very thoughtful post. Thanks. n/t	seaglass	Feb 2014	#233
Yes thank you from me as well.	RBStevens	Feb 2014	#234
That was an outstanding response.	Sheldon Cooper	Feb 2014	#235
Thank you for that reply and also thanks for the OP in GD. Thank you.	Tuesday Afternoon	Feb 2014	#242
Thank you, sir!	bravenak	Feb 2014	#228

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