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History of Feminism
In reply to the discussion: Thoughts on “Sextremism” [View all]niyad
(113,229 posts)92. I am so glad I did not see that particular email--my response would have been rather nasty.
I think phyllis meant it as a kind of camouflage and a kind of armor, as well, so very much a positive.
My view is, whoever wants to wear it, or not wear it, it is absolutely none of my business. I have friends who cannot leave the house without a complete "face" on, and others who refuse to wear it, some who do on occasion, and me, who cannot wear it. Each person's individual choice, as far as I can see.
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thinking about it though, it seems they came with 3rd wave at a time we felt we could take ownership
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#5
This is the same discussion that arises at Pride events over 'assless chaps' and drag.
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#14
i think it is a chicken shit, lazy ass argument to throw out "prude" when discussions like this come
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#15
The men who say that at Pride events are prudes. That's who I was talking about.
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#19
you used it to compare to women speaking about this type demonstration BNW. it is not like we are
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#21
one is allowed, one is not. one is cheered, one is condemmend. madonna/whore. nt
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#27
Don't you bring it up for discussion when you bring up other's use of their sexuality?
octothorpe
Apr 2013
#59
METHOD. discussing the METHOD. see how ineffective this is. cannot even get people to think beyond
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#60
Isn't the method and the actual protest kinda intertwined in the case of Amina?
octothorpe
Apr 2013
#67
no one is telling these women what they can or cannot do. METHOD. discussing how we see the effect
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#70
I don't think you or anyone on this board are telling her and others what they can or cannot do
octothorpe
Apr 2013
#72
Take Chuck Hagle's attack on Mr Homel for being seen with men dressed as nuns
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#32
there is no argument with this post. adn what is ignored or missed, continually. i am arguing a
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#34
I see no attempt at controlling how others express themselves to further a collective goal
LanternWaste
Apr 2013
#98
Agree...It's just someone's value judgement, someone's "opinion", hardly a "fact". n/t
whathehell
Apr 2013
#29
As long as it remains just that, a respectful statement of one's own views and choices
Bluenorthwest
Apr 2013
#71
feminism thru individualism. it is dying. we are seeing how ineffective it is. there really is
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#74
So we on DU are "shimmering" toward objectifying conservatives and religious people
redqueen
Apr 2013
#75
I have read that FEMEN isn't solely made up of women with porn-compliant bodies...
redqueen
Apr 2013
#4
so they say. but, even if that is true then it just validates the argument that this style of
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#8
it is a small group of 20. i was not impressed a year ago. but what turned me completely off was
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#9
They didn't...I wear makeup...It's non-negotiable and I remember getting a dirty look at a feminist
whathehell
Apr 2013
#31
phyllis chesler refers to make-up as war paint. I cannot wear it, nothing political, just a severe
niyad
Apr 2013
#40
yes. i even love the sound. lol. and i get a real sashe going back and forth. almost a dance.
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#62
I love heels, always have, always will. they are good for so many things. and, like you, I wear
niyad
Apr 2013
#93
I am so glad I did not see that particular email--my response would have been rather nasty.
niyad
Apr 2013
#92
I like that, as well. people forget that there was a time men wore powdered wigs and lots of
niyad
Apr 2013
#90
yes they did. and men still wear heels and higher heels but we all pretend it is not
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#97
ok girls... now show me you tits. says a male friend to young women on FB, demeaning these girls
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#52
There was at least one other thread reporting the story, that didn't have the word
CrispyQ
Apr 2013
#86
the whole company shifted to men and the man gaze. tell your woman what you want her to wear.
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#87
goddess forfend that we should EVER do anything to offend the sensibilities of the patriarchy.
niyad
Apr 2013
#13
I think about the fact that feminists have been told from the beginning not to be shrill, to be soft
niyad
Apr 2013
#23
own businesses. be on board. and when a company shows sexism... publically reject, quit, vilify.
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#25
I was there in the sixties, and seventies, and. . I am still here, still doing the same things. as
niyad
Apr 2013
#35
I agree with the OP in its characterization of FEMEN but I see value in the FEMEN movement.
Squinch
Apr 2013
#33
then really, by LOUDLY pointing it out here at du, i am the greater supporter, lol, than those that
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#36
But YOU are what is referred to in the article as a "classical feminist." So am I.
Squinch
Apr 2013
#39
this is what i was thinking in the shower. they flash and every fuckin one else is doing the fuckin
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#41
ya, see. i watch it continually being used as a tool against women, and in disrespect of women that
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#53
flynt recently made a statement about women in porn. telling them NOT to go into porn,
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#42
yup. this is true. as his defenders INSIST it is all good for the woman never able to even hear,
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#46
I have little but contempt for women who strip and bare themselves to get out whatever message
Sheldon Cooper
Apr 2013
#56
no one will fuckin go there. there is so much dishonesty thru out this whole thing, that it is
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#57
then, when men use it as a weapon against women here, i would think the least we would do is
seabeyond
Apr 2013
#83