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limpyhobbler

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35. Some people are planted to make trouble. It's been proven in the past at various protests.

Sat May 12, 2012, 02:07 AM

May 2012

Don't believe it if you don't want to, no big deal.

I agree with you that fixating on it doesn't get us anywhere, because the general public doesn't believe it or doesn't care. Like I said upthread, we need a strategy that will work even in the face of this kind of disruption, or a better way to counter it somehow.

I don't know the answer to that. Maybe there is no better way to counter it beyond what is already being done.

Yes some of these disruptors are not planted, but are just angry people and they mistakenly think this is a good protest tactic. Maybe some are, as you said, "bored college kids" who just think it's cool. Just say I rebuke you and move on.

Also I really wish people wouldn't use the word 'anarchist' as if it is synonymous with violence. Anarchists are mostly peaceful people.

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Eyewitness account from an SF Occupier to last nights vandalism (and he's not happy). [View all] Luminous Animal May 2012 OP

When you have constant police surveillance and then it just stops, isn't that at all weird? ck4829 May 2012 #1

I don;t know why anyone should be surprised at this zeemike May 2012 #2

If you let it happen, it's going to happen.You indicated it was obvious that the "leaders" were fake saras May 2012 #3

Plenty of people tried to stop them but the vandals threatened them with baseball bats Luminous Animal May 2012 #4

Smells.... AnneD May 2012 #5

kick HiPointDem May 2012 #6

We need video and lots of it... Bennyboy May 2012 #7

Like I said, livestreamers were threatened with physical violence by the vandals. Luminous Animal May 2012 #8

ok so why didn't real occupy scatter? like in NYC? StarsInHerHair May 2012 #20

They did. Some hung back and cleaned up the trash from tipped over cans... Luminous Animal May 2012 #23

Not surprised but this is just un-freakin'-believable behavior Roland99 May 2012 #9

Agent Provocateurs. nt Javaman May 2012 #10

Sure. It's always AP's. greytdemocrat May 2012 #13

Who do you think they were? backscatter712 May 2012 #27

Why do you come here to hate on Occupy? U4ikLefty May 2012 #28

Awww... Javaman May 2012 #30

Somewhere there should be a cop who's brave enough to blow the whistle. 20score May 2012 #11

Spread the word--BIG, LOUD, and OFTEN (endlessly, really). tblue37 May 2012 #12

One vandalized business tweets in support of OWS... Luminous Animal May 2012 #14

k&r. .. n/t annabanana May 2012 #15

Sounds identical to what happened in Seattle Generic Other May 2012 #16

That is why it is so important to videotape all of the GAs. Every minute of them. JDPriestly May 2012 #17

A lot of people are unhappy. joshcryer May 2012 #18

How do you know those commenters live in the Mission? Luminous Animal May 2012 #21

They sound like they do. joshcryer May 2012 #24

That is a powerful report from someone who really knows all about this and has been working so hard. freshwest May 2012 #19

You're welcome, freshwest. There is a lot of rebuilding to be done. Luminous Animal May 2012 #22

Yeah they always do this. We need a strategy that works even in the face of this. limpyhobbler May 2012 #25

They do this because it works, G_j May 2012 #26

sorry, don't buy it..... crazyjoe May 2012 #29

Maybe not so much limpyhobbler May 2012 #31

Your not convincing me by a long shot. We can't just say crazyjoe May 2012 #34

Some people are planted to make trouble. It's been proven in the past at various protests. limpyhobbler May 2012 #35

Thank for not tarring the "anarchists" with this trouble-making. U4ikLefty May 2012 #36

+1 joshcryer May 2012 #37

Thom Hartmann video just posted agrees with the OP account: freshwest May 2012 #32

"one restaurant owner said officers even appeared to be "escorting" the group" Luminous Animal May 2012 #33