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3. If you let it happen, it's going to happen.You indicated it was obvious that the "leaders" were fake

Reply to Luminous Animal (Original post)

Tue May 1, 2012, 12:37 PM

May 2012

But no one thought to stop them, or call them on it? If a bunch of people show up at your informal football game and say "fuck football, let's go tip some cars over,", do you all just go follow them? Do you let them talk your friends into it?

They were almost certainly agents, and needed to be stopped immediately. Whose job is it, and what tools are legitimate?

edit: looking back, I don't intend this to be personal. Obviously someone there as a medic is doing more than their fair share already. But there were a hell of a lot of OTHER people there. What was their reaction to the "leaders"?

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Eyewitness account from an SF Occupier to last nights vandalism (and he's not happy). [View all] Luminous Animal May 2012 OP

When you have constant police surveillance and then it just stops, isn't that at all weird? ck4829 May 2012 #1

I don;t know why anyone should be surprised at this zeemike May 2012 #2

If you let it happen, it's going to happen.You indicated it was obvious that the "leaders" were fake saras May 2012 #3

Plenty of people tried to stop them but the vandals threatened them with baseball bats Luminous Animal May 2012 #4

Smells.... AnneD May 2012 #5

kick HiPointDem May 2012 #6

We need video and lots of it... Bennyboy May 2012 #7

Like I said, livestreamers were threatened with physical violence by the vandals. Luminous Animal May 2012 #8

ok so why didn't real occupy scatter? like in NYC? StarsInHerHair May 2012 #20

They did. Some hung back and cleaned up the trash from tipped over cans... Luminous Animal May 2012 #23

Not surprised but this is just un-freakin'-believable behavior Roland99 May 2012 #9

Agent Provocateurs. nt Javaman May 2012 #10

Sure. It's always AP's. greytdemocrat May 2012 #13

Who do you think they were? backscatter712 May 2012 #27

Why do you come here to hate on Occupy? U4ikLefty May 2012 #28

Awww... Javaman May 2012 #30

Somewhere there should be a cop who's brave enough to blow the whistle. 20score May 2012 #11

Spread the word--BIG, LOUD, and OFTEN (endlessly, really). tblue37 May 2012 #12

One vandalized business tweets in support of OWS... Luminous Animal May 2012 #14

k&r. .. n/t annabanana May 2012 #15

Sounds identical to what happened in Seattle Generic Other May 2012 #16

That is why it is so important to videotape all of the GAs. Every minute of them. JDPriestly May 2012 #17

A lot of people are unhappy. joshcryer May 2012 #18

How do you know those commenters live in the Mission? Luminous Animal May 2012 #21

They sound like they do. joshcryer May 2012 #24

That is a powerful report from someone who really knows all about this and has been working so hard. freshwest May 2012 #19

You're welcome, freshwest. There is a lot of rebuilding to be done. Luminous Animal May 2012 #22

Yeah they always do this. We need a strategy that works even in the face of this. limpyhobbler May 2012 #25

They do this because it works, G_j May 2012 #26

sorry, don't buy it..... crazyjoe May 2012 #29

Maybe not so much limpyhobbler May 2012 #31

Your not convincing me by a long shot. We can't just say crazyjoe May 2012 #34

Some people are planted to make trouble. It's been proven in the past at various protests. limpyhobbler May 2012 #35

Thank for not tarring the "anarchists" with this trouble-making. U4ikLefty May 2012 #36

+1 joshcryer May 2012 #37

Thom Hartmann video just posted agrees with the OP account: freshwest May 2012 #32

"one restaurant owner said officers even appeared to be "escorting" the group" Luminous Animal May 2012 #33