2016 Postmortem

rhett o rick

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150. Conservatism is a dangerous reality. That's why I am not supporting the Conservative Wing

Sun Jan 10, 2016, 02:09 PM

Jan 2016

of the Democratic Party. The one that accepts the Patriot Act and votes to invade Iraq. The conservative wing doesn't agree with my list. They want to see oil profits instead of clean water from fracking. Conservatives are championing the TPP and fracking.

The radical left is fighting for the 99% while the conservative Dems are accepting money from the wealthy 1%.

If we continue to allow the wealthy 1% run our government we will see the continuation of the looting of the 99%. That's the reality that some seem to be ok with. They disparage those of us that are fighting for the rights and welfare of the 99%. They call us "radicals" because we don't sit down and shut up. We don't drink the kool-aid dished out by the wealthy Oligarchy.

Reality is that we are fighting a class war and the Conservative Dems are on the side of the wealthy 1%.

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I am a Democrat and a Woman... [View all] BooScout Jan 2016 OP

Planned Parenthood's endorsement of Hillary Clinton was presented here as djean111 Jan 2016 #1

I seem to remember being told by Bernie supporters that we are not allowed to judge a candidate Squinch Jan 2016 #27

It's sad to me. msrizzo Jan 2016 #41

Quid-pro-quo is not brave... its corruption. It's the 1 percent supporting itself....as ussual. Bubzer Jan 2016 #83

Kid-Pro-Quo..... Definitely the 1% supporting itself. peacebird Jan 2016 #108

Lily Adams salary is nowhere near enough to put her in the 1% CreekDog Jan 2016 #124

So punish PP..good idea there. sigh randys1 Jan 2016 #152

So, do you then believe that coruption should not be punished? Bubzer Jan 2016 #196

Turd way? ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #181

And yet so accurate. Bubzer Jan 2016 #195

and yet so accurate ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #202

Personal attacks will get you nowhere. Well, unless you're trying to get in good with third way. Bubzer Jan 2016 #205

I don't think that the people whining and throwing tantrums are the majority of Bernie supporters synergie Jan 2016 #137

I believe you're right, synergie. BlueCaliDem Jan 2016 #151

Thank you! I've already been banned from the BS group for daring to question some of the synergie Jan 2016 #153

Sorry that happened to you. msrizzo Jan 2016 #166

What About The Poor Economy That Will NOT Be Corrected Under Clinton Inc.? CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #145

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2016 #207

As is your right. cali Jan 2016 #2

I don't think I've seen anything as upsetting to me sufrommich Jan 2016 #3

I feel the same... BooScout Jan 2016 #5

you'll get over it Vattel Jan 2016 #120

Will the women and families helped by PP? BooScout Jan 2016 #170

But, so sadly predictable. Cha Jan 2016 #17

I don't see how one can attack PP like that and still claim to be liberal. Cary Jan 2016 #18

The criticism is not for the organization or what it does, but for a leadership that rhett o rick Jan 2016 #134

I have yet to see the radical left matter in real life Cary Jan 2016 #136

Easy for you to disparage something you call "radical left" but can you define the radical left? rhett o rick Jan 2016 #139

Radical as in I want it all my way, right now. Cary Jan 2016 #140

So you agree with the issues, you just don't want your freedoms and liberties "right now". rhett o rick Jan 2016 #143

I left that off my list. Cary Jan 2016 #147

Conservatism is a dangerous reality. That's why I am not supporting the Conservative Wing rhett o rick Jan 2016 #150

So did Don Quixote. Cary Jan 2016 #157

We now have an American Aristocracy. Our founders would encourage us to fight that rhett o rick Jan 2016 #163

We do. Cary Jan 2016 #167

I think it would do you good to step out of that ideological bubble Cary Jan 2016 #169

There has been no "incrmental progress" for those that have been gunned down rhett o rick Jan 2016 #171

I know the problems Cary Jan 2016 #175

Sorry but I am not taking the blue pill. nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #177

Ha! Cary Jan 2016 #194

Really? rhett o rick Jan 2016 #197

Either way it's not my problem Cary Jan 2016 #200

Of course you seem content to side with the Oligarchy because actually fighting to help rhett o rick Jan 2016 #203

Accept what our masters give us and be thankful. Isn't that what you mean? rhett o rick Jan 2016 #176

Mention a constitutional right that has been lost treestar Jan 2016 #149

Totally Cary Jan 2016 #156

Habeas Corpus. nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #159

Please cite evidence that habeas corpus no longer exists in the US treestar Jan 2016 #208

Are you going to make me do the research, even though you are fully aware of the rhett o rick Jan 2016 #217

Someone can still challenge that law if applied to them treestar Jan 2016 #221

Let me see if I get your point. Just because a bad law is passed it's ok until actually used. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #223

Are you serious? eomer Jan 2016 #179

That amendment is still the law treestar Jan 2016 #209

Our 4th amendment rights have clearly been eroded. eomer Jan 2016 #215

The fact that it's still in the Constitution doesn't mean it's being enforced. We know we rhett o rick Jan 2016 #225

And... eomer Jan 2016 #182

That is still the law in this land. treestar Jan 2016 #210

Come on, you know that the issue isn't whether these rights are still part of the Constitution. Vattel Jan 2016 #212

What court decisions? treestar Jan 2016 #213

Lots of court decisions and executive and legislative acts have reduced various individual rights. Vattel Jan 2016 #214

I'll have to review Hamdi v Bush treestar Jan 2016 #219

The courts did tell Bush, "Now cut that out", with no consequences. Didn't help Hamdi. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #226

They knocked him back some, but not as much as Souter and Ginsberg would have liked. Vattel Jan 2016 #228

in the Hamdi case the court treestar Jan 2016 #222

LOL. Yep they did. But since there were no consequences for the violation of Hamdi's rights, what rhett o rick Jan 2016 #227

The majority's notion of due process in that case is a joke. Vattel Jan 2016 #229

No, it's not. eomer Jan 2016 #218

Did someone appeal that decision treestar Jan 2016 #220

That 16-year-old was not engaged in any war. eomer Jan 2016 #224

Yes, MLK was radical for his time... one_voice Jan 2016 #158

MLK was also practical Cary Jan 2016 #160

Agreed! one_voice Jan 2016 #161

I realize that we won't get all that we need, but I don't understand the acceptance of the rhett o rick Jan 2016 #162

So chase windmills Cary Jan 2016 #164

How sad that you feel so comfortable in life that you would disparage those that fight to rhett o rick Jan 2016 #173

Hi Rhett! BooScout Jan 2016 #211

I can't speak for everyone. But everyone I know... one_voice Jan 2016 #168

Bernie Represents POSITIVE CHANGE While Clinton Inc., "Not So Much!" CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #146

Bernie is going to lose Cary Jan 2016 #148

Feeling the same way here Politicub Jan 2016 #33

It was equally disgusting for HRC to argue that the endorsement meant Ken Burch Jan 2016 #125

I agree .. ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #185

Definitely showing their true colors. JTFrog Jan 2016 #63

I am a liberal and a progressive denvine Jan 2016 #66

There is also unprecedented attacks from the Right on PP Sheepshank Jan 2016 #70

Again, a strategic mistake denvine Jan 2016 #198

There are many reasons Hillary deserves their endorsement treestar Jan 2016 #86

Bernie has commobn ground too, and I think if in the WH he'd fight hard to defemnd them Armstead Jan 2016 #117

Thank you! denvine Jan 2016 #199

environmental groups have endorsed during the primaries, why shouldn't PP? CreekDog Jan 2016 #87

They shouldn't have either Armstead Jan 2016 #118

It's not your decision is it? CreekDog Jan 2016 #123

No rational reason to single out PP for their endorsement. joshcryer Jan 2016 #119

One of the least heartening things about this primary cycle BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #131

Cecile (not Cecilia) Richards is also a good friend of Katrina vanden Heuvel DFW Jan 2016 #193

Sorry, I meant Cecile Richards! Typo! denvine Jan 2016 #201

I hear ya, sufrommich. It was pretty upsetting. PP and NARAL are powerful BlueCaliDem Jan 2016 #79

Those attacks on PP are horrendous and many seek to harm PP CreekDog Jan 2016 #88

Can't wait till primary season is over kz5 Jan 2016 #101

A lot of these democrats aren't. MoonRiver Jan 2016 #112

Good point kz5 Jan 2016 #99

I wasn't surprised when I saw it on Reddit. joshcryer Jan 2016 #121

Planned Parenthood decided to enter the political fray. There was some quid pro quo involved rhett o rick Jan 2016 #122

There was no " quid pro quo" involved,that's an odious smear sufrommich Jan 2016 #130

The new great enthusasiam for Sen Sanders is because people see him as an honest rhett o rick Jan 2016 #133

I would not characterize Sanders as Gloria Jan 2016 #154

Maybe they were promised money ...... ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #183

It was a terrible decision that will cost the organization and the women counting on them. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #188

Well looks like I need to update ... ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #191

What is ironic is that you pretend to support women's health but supporting the wealthy 1% rhett o rick Jan 2016 #204

I know how you feel fredamae Jan 2016 #4

I have not seen suggesting I must vote for the woman, I have been accused of not being Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #14

Then you are in support fredamae Jan 2016 #20

I have stated my reasons for supporting Hillary often.. BooScout Jan 2016 #23

I wasn't challenging fredamae Jan 2016 #38

I agree on that... BooScout Jan 2016 #39

:) "thumbs up" n/t fredamae Jan 2016 #43

Exactly, it is policy, record, experience and ability to take current Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #111

Voting for Hillary with my heart and my brain. And, so many strong, intelligent, independent Cha Jan 2016 #6

It isn't a shameless plug... BooScout Jan 2016 #8

Oh sweet, Boo. the feeling is quite Cha Jan 2016 #10

Cha, my friend... BooScout Jan 2016 #16

Very well said. I find it best to ignore the more vicious and vindictive among us. nt UtahLib Jan 2016 #7

I'm right there with ya, UtahLib~ Cha Jan 2016 #12

They will prove to be irrelevant. Cary Jan 2016 #19

To be very honest, if Sanders or MOM had the same qualifications I would gladly support them. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #9

Would you vote for Elizabeth Warren if she were running? She and Bernie have the same political Cal33 Jan 2016 #32

It would still remain the most qualified, if I found Elizabeth Warren I would vote Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #110

Good for you. Yes, gender should make no difference. Cal33 Jan 2016 #141

Then as a democrat, and a woman you would not have a problem with haikugal Jan 2016 #11

Agreed. I feel the same way. Cal33 Jan 2016 #142

Hillary, like Bill and Barack, is a Reaganite. immoderate Jan 2016 #13

Over the top ridiculousness. Cary Jan 2016 #22

Trickle down is what it is. immoderate Jan 2016 #24

It's a lie. Cary Jan 2016 #26

It's a lie that works for them. immoderate Jan 2016 #31

Presidents don't make laws. Cary Jan 2016 #37

Can you cite an instance where Hil, Bill, or Barack denounced Reagan or Reaganomics? immoderate Jan 2016 #44

Given the fact that "supply-side economics" Cary Jan 2016 #49

You are being modest. Romneycare? immoderate Jan 2016 #55

It was an incremental improvement Cary Jan 2016 #67

No. The opposite. An excremental improvement. immoderate Jan 2016 #94

This is absurd at best uponit7771 Jan 2016 #50

And true at worst. immoderate Jan 2016 #57

Not even close to reality looking at relative facts, not ONE of the lionized dem prez's in the past uponit7771 Jan 2016 #60

Uh no kz5 Jan 2016 #97

Would Bernie have appointed Geithner? immoderate Jan 2016 #98

no, and neither would have a republican. nt geek tragedy Jan 2016 #100

There's going to be quibbles with every candidate kz5 Jan 2016 #102

yeah, I think people lose sight of the giant difference between geek tragedy Jan 2016 #103

He did work for Kissinger Associates, and headed the NY Reserve Bank during Bush. immoderate Jan 2016 #109

My vote transcends race and gender, My best interests in issues for both the planet and lonestarnot Jan 2016 #15

The next president, if a Democrat, will make incremental progress. Cary Jan 2016 #25

I guess I am officially getting old. msrizzo Jan 2016 #58

K&R nt NCTraveler Jan 2016 #21

I don't agree with the PP endorsement TBF Jan 2016 #28

Good for you! BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #132

Huge K&R!!! Thanks! Bleacher Creature Jan 2016 #29

Well said! Spazito Jan 2016 #30

K&R Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #34

Of course you make pefect sense Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #35

+1 MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #77

Personally the question is, why would Planned Parenthood endorse Hillary in the midst of a primary.. raindaddy Jan 2016 #36

Excellent post, Boo. Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #40

I would like to see Sanders shut down the sexist element among his followers. LexVegas Jan 2016 #42

Yes I agree CreekDog Jan 2016 #90

What should he say? What examples should he cite? DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #216

I am a Democrat and not a Woman bigwillq Jan 2016 #45

This whole line of "reasoning" is a really odd mcar Jan 2016 #46

I think that Susan Sarandon's statement is caricaturistic LuvLoogie Jan 2016 #47

A service organization aligning itself to a political candidate could push at least 50% DhhD Jan 2016 #48

Who do you mean by "its patrons." msrizzo Jan 2016 #53

Well, they're not pushing anyone away. All you're hearing from is a few people howling with the synergie Jan 2016 #138

oh boo hoo stupidicus Jan 2016 #51

Here's ya a tip: Don't donate or support them leftofcool Jan 2016 #61

here's a tip -- learn how to read for meaning stupidicus Jan 2016 #71

I'm so sorry Bernie didn't get this coveted endorsement. leftofcool Jan 2016 #91

thanks for conceding the validity of my observations and accompanying remarks stupidicus Jan 2016 #192

I'm a Democrat and a Woman... Helen Borg Jan 2016 #52

Good for you. At least no one is suggesting that you're somehow voting with your genitalia when synergie Jan 2016 #155

I accept ejbr Jan 2016 #54

The majority of us still support PP and will continue to do so. unapatriciated Jan 2016 #56

+1000 mountain grammy Jan 2016 #92

Thank you unapatriciated Jan 2016 #104

Beautifully put. Kentonio Jan 2016 #135

A vote for Hillary is a vote for Jamie Dimon. JRLeft Jan 2016 #59

So? This is about PP, not your friend Jamie Dimon. leftofcool Jan 2016 #62

It matters, because Hillary is corrupted by the financial services industry. JRLeft Jan 2016 #64

Who's she? ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #187

If you look at qualifications, sus453 Jan 2016 #65

+1 ejbr Jan 2016 #73

There are other places to give money that are just as important for women. eggplant Jan 2016 #68

Do they give mammograms? BooScout Jan 2016 #69

Of course not. Nor do they claim to. eggplant Jan 2016 #72

Shame on me??? BooScout Jan 2016 #74

They should set up a way where not a dime of a donation gets used against Sanders/for Clinton Babel_17 Jan 2016 #113

K&R. Well said. n/t MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #75

Only a small portion of what HRC stands for Fred75 Jan 2016 #76

I am a Democrat and a Woman... and you can change the name Hillary to Bernie and it Autumn Jan 2016 #78

I am a Democrat and a Woman... BlueCaliDem Jan 2016 #80

I do not see anyone pangaia Jan 2016 #81

You must have missed it. BooScout Jan 2016 #82

It is sad indeed. :-( Alfresco Jan 2016 #84

+1 treestar Jan 2016 #85

To suggest there are no women voting for Hillary based on gender is insulting. Bubzer Jan 2016 #89

I'm with ya on this one, BooScout. liberalnarb Jan 2016 #93

Thank you! BooScout Jan 2016 #107

and smooches to you too! ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #189

Difference between Hillary and Bernie is exaggerated kz5 Jan 2016 #95

I have to applaud the end game. RichVRichV Jan 2016 #96

Reducing women to body parts at all times. Even in a Presidential campaign. Nt seabeyond Jan 2016 #105

K & R Iliyah Jan 2016 #106

When it comes to Sarandon and her vagina Babel_17 Jan 2016 #114

KICK! Cha Jan 2016 #115

K&R betsuni Jan 2016 #116

That is not what Sarandon "suggested." She said it was insulting for anyone to expect merrily Jan 2016 #126

Good luck to you and your candidate. cheapdate Jan 2016 #127

Are you not at all bothered SheilaT Jan 2016 #128

And the women of Iraq and Iran can just go fuck themselves? n/t eridani Jan 2016 #129

Well, we will get a white woman president "abuela" so it is all good, right? artislife Jan 2016 #165

She is a disaster Aerows Jan 2016 #174

K&R ismnotwasm Jan 2016 #144

If Hillary gets the nomination Aerows Jan 2016 #172

It is demeaning to say that women are so brainless as to vote based on genitalia Chemisse Jan 2016 #178

You are the BEST!!! ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #180

Hello Ronny love! BooScout Jan 2016 #184

well said DrDan Jan 2016 #186

Hear, hear!!! Beacool Jan 2016 #190

Kick oasis Jan 2016 #206