2016 Postmortem

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84. It is sad indeed. :-(

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I am a Democrat and a Woman... [View all] BooScout Jan 2016 OP

Planned Parenthood's endorsement of Hillary Clinton was presented here as djean111 Jan 2016 #1

I seem to remember being told by Bernie supporters that we are not allowed to judge a candidate Squinch Jan 2016 #27

It's sad to me. msrizzo Jan 2016 #41

Quid-pro-quo is not brave... its corruption. It's the 1 percent supporting itself....as ussual. Bubzer Jan 2016 #83

Kid-Pro-Quo..... Definitely the 1% supporting itself. peacebird Jan 2016 #108

Lily Adams salary is nowhere near enough to put her in the 1% CreekDog Jan 2016 #124

So punish PP..good idea there. sigh randys1 Jan 2016 #152

So, do you then believe that coruption should not be punished? Bubzer Jan 2016 #196

Turd way? ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #181

And yet so accurate. Bubzer Jan 2016 #195

and yet so accurate ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #202

Personal attacks will get you nowhere. Well, unless you're trying to get in good with third way. Bubzer Jan 2016 #205

I don't think that the people whining and throwing tantrums are the majority of Bernie supporters synergie Jan 2016 #137

I believe you're right, synergie. BlueCaliDem Jan 2016 #151

Thank you! I've already been banned from the BS group for daring to question some of the synergie Jan 2016 #153

Sorry that happened to you. msrizzo Jan 2016 #166

What About The Poor Economy That Will NOT Be Corrected Under Clinton Inc.? CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #145

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2016 #207

As is your right. cali Jan 2016 #2

I don't think I've seen anything as upsetting to me sufrommich Jan 2016 #3

I feel the same... BooScout Jan 2016 #5

you'll get over it Vattel Jan 2016 #120

Will the women and families helped by PP? BooScout Jan 2016 #170

But, so sadly predictable. Cha Jan 2016 #17

I don't see how one can attack PP like that and still claim to be liberal. Cary Jan 2016 #18

The criticism is not for the organization or what it does, but for a leadership that rhett o rick Jan 2016 #134

I have yet to see the radical left matter in real life Cary Jan 2016 #136

Easy for you to disparage something you call "radical left" but can you define the radical left? rhett o rick Jan 2016 #139

Radical as in I want it all my way, right now. Cary Jan 2016 #140

So you agree with the issues, you just don't want your freedoms and liberties "right now". rhett o rick Jan 2016 #143

I left that off my list. Cary Jan 2016 #147

Conservatism is a dangerous reality. That's why I am not supporting the Conservative Wing rhett o rick Jan 2016 #150

So did Don Quixote. Cary Jan 2016 #157

We now have an American Aristocracy. Our founders would encourage us to fight that rhett o rick Jan 2016 #163

We do. Cary Jan 2016 #167

I think it would do you good to step out of that ideological bubble Cary Jan 2016 #169

There has been no "incrmental progress" for those that have been gunned down rhett o rick Jan 2016 #171

I know the problems Cary Jan 2016 #175

Sorry but I am not taking the blue pill. nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #177

Ha! Cary Jan 2016 #194

Really? rhett o rick Jan 2016 #197

Either way it's not my problem Cary Jan 2016 #200

Of course you seem content to side with the Oligarchy because actually fighting to help rhett o rick Jan 2016 #203

Accept what our masters give us and be thankful. Isn't that what you mean? rhett o rick Jan 2016 #176

Mention a constitutional right that has been lost treestar Jan 2016 #149

Totally Cary Jan 2016 #156

Habeas Corpus. nm rhett o rick Jan 2016 #159

Please cite evidence that habeas corpus no longer exists in the US treestar Jan 2016 #208

Are you going to make me do the research, even though you are fully aware of the rhett o rick Jan 2016 #217

Someone can still challenge that law if applied to them treestar Jan 2016 #221

Let me see if I get your point. Just because a bad law is passed it's ok until actually used. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #223

Are you serious? eomer Jan 2016 #179

That amendment is still the law treestar Jan 2016 #209

Our 4th amendment rights have clearly been eroded. eomer Jan 2016 #215

The fact that it's still in the Constitution doesn't mean it's being enforced. We know we rhett o rick Jan 2016 #225

And... eomer Jan 2016 #182

That is still the law in this land. treestar Jan 2016 #210

Come on, you know that the issue isn't whether these rights are still part of the Constitution. Vattel Jan 2016 #212

What court decisions? treestar Jan 2016 #213

Lots of court decisions and executive and legislative acts have reduced various individual rights. Vattel Jan 2016 #214

I'll have to review Hamdi v Bush treestar Jan 2016 #219

The courts did tell Bush, "Now cut that out", with no consequences. Didn't help Hamdi. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #226

They knocked him back some, but not as much as Souter and Ginsberg would have liked. Vattel Jan 2016 #228

in the Hamdi case the court treestar Jan 2016 #222

LOL. Yep they did. But since there were no consequences for the violation of Hamdi's rights, what rhett o rick Jan 2016 #227

The majority's notion of due process in that case is a joke. Vattel Jan 2016 #229

No, it's not. eomer Jan 2016 #218

Did someone appeal that decision treestar Jan 2016 #220

That 16-year-old was not engaged in any war. eomer Jan 2016 #224

Yes, MLK was radical for his time... one_voice Jan 2016 #158

MLK was also practical Cary Jan 2016 #160

Agreed! one_voice Jan 2016 #161

I realize that we won't get all that we need, but I don't understand the acceptance of the rhett o rick Jan 2016 #162

So chase windmills Cary Jan 2016 #164

How sad that you feel so comfortable in life that you would disparage those that fight to rhett o rick Jan 2016 #173

Hi Rhett! BooScout Jan 2016 #211

I can't speak for everyone. But everyone I know... one_voice Jan 2016 #168

Bernie Represents POSITIVE CHANGE While Clinton Inc., "Not So Much!" CorporatistNation Jan 2016 #146

Bernie is going to lose Cary Jan 2016 #148

Feeling the same way here Politicub Jan 2016 #33

It was equally disgusting for HRC to argue that the endorsement meant Ken Burch Jan 2016 #125

I agree .. ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #185

Definitely showing their true colors. JTFrog Jan 2016 #63

I am a liberal and a progressive denvine Jan 2016 #66

There is also unprecedented attacks from the Right on PP Sheepshank Jan 2016 #70

Again, a strategic mistake denvine Jan 2016 #198

There are many reasons Hillary deserves their endorsement treestar Jan 2016 #86

Bernie has commobn ground too, and I think if in the WH he'd fight hard to defemnd them Armstead Jan 2016 #117

Thank you! denvine Jan 2016 #199

environmental groups have endorsed during the primaries, why shouldn't PP? CreekDog Jan 2016 #87

They shouldn't have either Armstead Jan 2016 #118

It's not your decision is it? CreekDog Jan 2016 #123

No rational reason to single out PP for their endorsement. joshcryer Jan 2016 #119

One of the least heartening things about this primary cycle BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #131

Cecile (not Cecilia) Richards is also a good friend of Katrina vanden Heuvel DFW Jan 2016 #193

Sorry, I meant Cecile Richards! Typo! denvine Jan 2016 #201

I hear ya, sufrommich. It was pretty upsetting. PP and NARAL are powerful BlueCaliDem Jan 2016 #79

Those attacks on PP are horrendous and many seek to harm PP CreekDog Jan 2016 #88

Can't wait till primary season is over kz5 Jan 2016 #101

A lot of these democrats aren't. MoonRiver Jan 2016 #112

Good point kz5 Jan 2016 #99

I wasn't surprised when I saw it on Reddit. joshcryer Jan 2016 #121

Planned Parenthood decided to enter the political fray. There was some quid pro quo involved rhett o rick Jan 2016 #122

There was no " quid pro quo" involved,that's an odious smear sufrommich Jan 2016 #130

The new great enthusasiam for Sen Sanders is because people see him as an honest rhett o rick Jan 2016 #133

I would not characterize Sanders as Gloria Jan 2016 #154

Maybe they were promised money ...... ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #183

It was a terrible decision that will cost the organization and the women counting on them. rhett o rick Jan 2016 #188

Well looks like I need to update ... ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #191

What is ironic is that you pretend to support women's health but supporting the wealthy 1% rhett o rick Jan 2016 #204

I know how you feel fredamae Jan 2016 #4

I have not seen suggesting I must vote for the woman, I have been accused of not being Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #14

Then you are in support fredamae Jan 2016 #20

I have stated my reasons for supporting Hillary often.. BooScout Jan 2016 #23

I wasn't challenging fredamae Jan 2016 #38

I agree on that... BooScout Jan 2016 #39

:) "thumbs up" n/t fredamae Jan 2016 #43

Exactly, it is policy, record, experience and ability to take current Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #111

Voting for Hillary with my heart and my brain. And, so many strong, intelligent, independent Cha Jan 2016 #6

It isn't a shameless plug... BooScout Jan 2016 #8

Oh sweet, Boo. the feeling is quite Cha Jan 2016 #10

Cha, my friend... BooScout Jan 2016 #16

Very well said. I find it best to ignore the more vicious and vindictive among us. nt UtahLib Jan 2016 #7

I'm right there with ya, UtahLib~ Cha Jan 2016 #12

They will prove to be irrelevant. Cary Jan 2016 #19

To be very honest, if Sanders or MOM had the same qualifications I would gladly support them. Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #9

Would you vote for Elizabeth Warren if she were running? She and Bernie have the same political Cal33 Jan 2016 #32

It would still remain the most qualified, if I found Elizabeth Warren I would vote Thinkingabout Jan 2016 #110

Good for you. Yes, gender should make no difference. Cal33 Jan 2016 #141

Then as a democrat, and a woman you would not have a problem with haikugal Jan 2016 #11

Agreed. I feel the same way. Cal33 Jan 2016 #142

Hillary, like Bill and Barack, is a Reaganite. immoderate Jan 2016 #13

Over the top ridiculousness. Cary Jan 2016 #22

Trickle down is what it is. immoderate Jan 2016 #24

It's a lie. Cary Jan 2016 #26

It's a lie that works for them. immoderate Jan 2016 #31

Presidents don't make laws. Cary Jan 2016 #37

Can you cite an instance where Hil, Bill, or Barack denounced Reagan or Reaganomics? immoderate Jan 2016 #44

Given the fact that "supply-side economics" Cary Jan 2016 #49

You are being modest. Romneycare? immoderate Jan 2016 #55

It was an incremental improvement Cary Jan 2016 #67

No. The opposite. An excremental improvement. immoderate Jan 2016 #94

This is absurd at best uponit7771 Jan 2016 #50

And true at worst. immoderate Jan 2016 #57

Not even close to reality looking at relative facts, not ONE of the lionized dem prez's in the past uponit7771 Jan 2016 #60

Uh no kz5 Jan 2016 #97

Would Bernie have appointed Geithner? immoderate Jan 2016 #98

no, and neither would have a republican. nt geek tragedy Jan 2016 #100

There's going to be quibbles with every candidate kz5 Jan 2016 #102

yeah, I think people lose sight of the giant difference between geek tragedy Jan 2016 #103

He did work for Kissinger Associates, and headed the NY Reserve Bank during Bush. immoderate Jan 2016 #109

My vote transcends race and gender, My best interests in issues for both the planet and lonestarnot Jan 2016 #15

The next president, if a Democrat, will make incremental progress. Cary Jan 2016 #25

I guess I am officially getting old. msrizzo Jan 2016 #58

K&R nt NCTraveler Jan 2016 #21

I don't agree with the PP endorsement TBF Jan 2016 #28

Good for you! BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #132

Huge K&R!!! Thanks! Bleacher Creature Jan 2016 #29

Well said! Spazito Jan 2016 #30

K&R Starry Messenger Jan 2016 #34

Of course you make pefect sense Tom Rinaldo Jan 2016 #35

+1 MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #77

Personally the question is, why would Planned Parenthood endorse Hillary in the midst of a primary.. raindaddy Jan 2016 #36

Excellent post, Boo. Bobbie Jo Jan 2016 #40

I would like to see Sanders shut down the sexist element among his followers. LexVegas Jan 2016 #42

Yes I agree CreekDog Jan 2016 #90

What should he say? What examples should he cite? DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2016 #216

I am a Democrat and not a Woman bigwillq Jan 2016 #45

This whole line of "reasoning" is a really odd mcar Jan 2016 #46

I think that Susan Sarandon's statement is caricaturistic LuvLoogie Jan 2016 #47

A service organization aligning itself to a political candidate could push at least 50% DhhD Jan 2016 #48

Who do you mean by "its patrons." msrizzo Jan 2016 #53

Well, they're not pushing anyone away. All you're hearing from is a few people howling with the synergie Jan 2016 #138

oh boo hoo stupidicus Jan 2016 #51

Here's ya a tip: Don't donate or support them leftofcool Jan 2016 #61

here's a tip -- learn how to read for meaning stupidicus Jan 2016 #71

I'm so sorry Bernie didn't get this coveted endorsement. leftofcool Jan 2016 #91

thanks for conceding the validity of my observations and accompanying remarks stupidicus Jan 2016 #192

I'm a Democrat and a Woman... Helen Borg Jan 2016 #52

Good for you. At least no one is suggesting that you're somehow voting with your genitalia when synergie Jan 2016 #155

I accept ejbr Jan 2016 #54

The majority of us still support PP and will continue to do so. unapatriciated Jan 2016 #56

+1000 mountain grammy Jan 2016 #92

Thank you unapatriciated Jan 2016 #104

Beautifully put. Kentonio Jan 2016 #135

A vote for Hillary is a vote for Jamie Dimon. JRLeft Jan 2016 #59

So? This is about PP, not your friend Jamie Dimon. leftofcool Jan 2016 #62

It matters, because Hillary is corrupted by the financial services industry. JRLeft Jan 2016 #64

Who's she? ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #187

If you look at qualifications, sus453 Jan 2016 #65

+1 ejbr Jan 2016 #73

There are other places to give money that are just as important for women. eggplant Jan 2016 #68

Do they give mammograms? BooScout Jan 2016 #69

Of course not. Nor do they claim to. eggplant Jan 2016 #72

Shame on me??? BooScout Jan 2016 #74

They should set up a way where not a dime of a donation gets used against Sanders/for Clinton Babel_17 Jan 2016 #113

K&R. Well said. n/t MeNMyVolt Jan 2016 #75

Only a small portion of what HRC stands for Fred75 Jan 2016 #76

I am a Democrat and a Woman... and you can change the name Hillary to Bernie and it Autumn Jan 2016 #78

I am a Democrat and a Woman... BlueCaliDem Jan 2016 #80

I do not see anyone pangaia Jan 2016 #81

You must have missed it. BooScout Jan 2016 #82

It is sad indeed. :-( Alfresco Jan 2016 #84

+1 treestar Jan 2016 #85

To suggest there are no women voting for Hillary based on gender is insulting. Bubzer Jan 2016 #89

I'm with ya on this one, BooScout. liberalnarb Jan 2016 #93

Thank you! BooScout Jan 2016 #107

and smooches to you too! ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #189

Difference between Hillary and Bernie is exaggerated kz5 Jan 2016 #95

I have to applaud the end game. RichVRichV Jan 2016 #96

Reducing women to body parts at all times. Even in a Presidential campaign. Nt seabeyond Jan 2016 #105

K & R Iliyah Jan 2016 #106

When it comes to Sarandon and her vagina Babel_17 Jan 2016 #114

KICK! Cha Jan 2016 #115

K&R betsuni Jan 2016 #116

That is not what Sarandon "suggested." She said it was insulting for anyone to expect merrily Jan 2016 #126

Good luck to you and your candidate. cheapdate Jan 2016 #127

Are you not at all bothered SheilaT Jan 2016 #128

And the women of Iraq and Iran can just go fuck themselves? n/t eridani Jan 2016 #129

Well, we will get a white woman president "abuela" so it is all good, right? artislife Jan 2016 #165

She is a disaster Aerows Jan 2016 #174

K&R ismnotwasm Jan 2016 #144

If Hillary gets the nomination Aerows Jan 2016 #172

It is demeaning to say that women are so brainless as to vote based on genitalia Chemisse Jan 2016 #178

You are the BEST!!! ronnykmarshall Jan 2016 #180

Hello Ronny love! BooScout Jan 2016 #184

well said DrDan Jan 2016 #186

Hear, hear!!! Beacool Jan 2016 #190

Kick oasis Jan 2016 #206