Perhaps because my questions sort of implicitly define "third way politics". (Reply #42)

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delrem (9,688 posts)

42. Perhaps because my questions sort of implicitly define "third way politics".

I'm so sick of this. All the pretence.

It's so fucking pointless.

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I find the phrase "Feel the Bern" off-putting. It feels like a taunt, not an invitation . . . [View all]	Empowerer	Jan 2016	OP
I don't find it that way at all. It's clever and catchy.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Jan 2016	#1
Did you ever exercise ? You don't make PROGRESS without the BERN!	Ferd Berfel	Jan 2016	#103
Personally, I do not like exercise, but I understand the concept.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Jan 2016	#105
LOL	Ferd Berfel	Jan 2016	#107
no, you are over thinking it	JI7	Jan 2016	#2
I would feel that way if the Samders campaign were the source of it.	arcane1	Jan 2016	#3
This.	Ed Suspicious	Jan 2016	#101
I suppose you can take it many different ways. For me it is just an indicator of how	liberal_at_heart	Jan 2016	#4
Same... could it be some here are just being overly sensitive? Maybe even to suit their own purposes?	InAbLuEsTaTe	Jan 2016	#136
Why yes, yes it could. I think they're also jealous of it.	cui bono	Jan 2016	#174
Supporters of third-way, investment banking interests and war profiteering,	delrem	Jan 2016	#5
I'm neither Republican nor a supporter of third-way, investment banking interests, war profiteering	Empowerer	Jan 2016	#7
Oh, your posts confuse me then, and I've read a few.	delrem	Jan 2016	#9
I kinda wish this was not an anonymous board sometimes	wildeyed	Jan 2016	#213
No, it's not.	wildeyed	Jan 2016	#212
I repeat.	delrem	Jan 2016	#221
I did and do. It IS off-putting. But Republicans LOVE "the Bern" slogan.	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2016	#6
So if a GOP strategist had used "Hope & Change" a few times Obama should have given it up?	JonLeibowitz	Jan 2016	#8
Isn't that what some people think Dems ought to always do? Every time?	delrem	Jan 2016	#16
...	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2016	#21
What an exceptionally mature response. I expected nothing less. n/t	JonLeibowitz	Jan 2016	#43
It's all your attempts at deflection are worth.	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2016	#44
I have deflected nothing. I have pointed out the absurd positions you would put our candidates in.	JonLeibowitz	Jan 2016	#45
Bull. You were trying to deflect from the fact that prominent Republican strategists support Sanders	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2016	#104
Gosh, it's a good thing they never supported Obama back when he was running against Clinton!	Kentonio	Jan 2016	#110
Did they? Can you provide a link (just as I have) to an article that substantiates your claim?	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2016	#112
You've forgotten about 'Operation Chaos' already?	Kentonio	Jan 2016	#115
I don't pay Limbaugh as much heed as you apparently do.	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2016	#125
I didn't think it needed links to be quite honest, its hardly a secret.	Kentonio	Jan 2016	#134
Well, when you "ask" another poster to	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2016	#138
Given your refusal to answer a request of mine because you called me biased and close minded	Kentonio	Jan 2016	#142
The difference is, your supposition has zero basis in truth. My claim is documented.	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2016	#144
You are backing up your claim with an article that is 6 months old.	cui bono	Jan 2016	#155
That post makes no sense. What "painful truth"?	cui bono	Jan 2016	#153
prominent Republican strategists support Sanders	AlbertCat	Jan 2016	#193
This is why we have the "ignore" feature on this site	Ned_Devine	Jan 2016	#182
Deflection? You are the one who claimed something about the GOP and linked to an article that didn't	cui bono	Jan 2016	#76
Well it doesn't take much to deflect ellipses	kenfrequed	Jan 2016	#179
You ask some very good questions. Unfortunately, our mutual interlocutor is not interested	JonLeibowitz	Jan 2016	#37
Perhaps because my questions sort of implicitly define "third way politics".	delrem	Jan 2016	#42
Non sequitur. And blatant deflection. NO GOP strategist rushed to twitter to support Obama.	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2016	#19
It is not a deflection, it points the absurdity of what you wish. Also, you didn't answer.	JonLeibowitz	Jan 2016	#31
It is absolutely deflection only, it failed.	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2016	#34
Free speech is not the right to not speak, just so you know.	JonLeibowitz	Jan 2016	#39
Never said it was. And I did "speak". You just didn't like my response.	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2016	#48
Very juvenile as your choice of cartoons reflect. nt	Live and Learn	Jan 2016	#55
On par with how I think of your posts.	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2016	#58
Cute but still juvenile. nt	Live and Learn	Jan 2016	#59
Again, on par with how I think of your posts.	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2016	#63
And again, juvenile. nt	Live and Learn	Jan 2016	#66
On par with the maturity of your post.	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2016	#100
Seems Hillary has the kindergarten vote.	Fawke Em	Jan 2016	#121
Feel the BURN, Fawke!	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2016	#129
..	Fawke Em	Jan 2016	#132
...	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2016	#135
I see you got some new toys for Christmas. Have fun. nt	Live and Learn	Jan 2016	#150
What a mature response.	SheilaT	Jan 2016	#170
Well yeah, true	Glamrock	Jan 2016	#206
Or with like slogans like "gobernie"." Dems still quaking in their boots over what Repubs do.	Luminous Animal	Jan 2016	#52
It's like there's a huge reservoir of them,	delrem	Jan 2016	#69
That poster totally missed the entire point of the article.	cui bono	Jan 2016	#82
Thank you!	Luminous Animal	Jan 2016	#187
I don't remember seeing a lot of posts from DU's left fretting about what	merrily	Jan 2016	#186
No, it is not offputting at all. It is positive and uplifting and empowering.	cui bono	Jan 2016	#75
Post removed	Post removed	Jan 2016	#109
"anti-PoC votes"?!	Kentonio	Jan 2016	#111
Yes.	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2016	#123
I'll remind you of this next time you take issue with someone smearing Clinton.	Kentonio	Jan 2016	#126
Aw, thanks, Ken.	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2016	#131
Wow! I missed that when I read her post.	cui bono	Jan 2016	#152
"His anti-PoC votes..."	brentspeak	Jan 2016	#118
Yep.	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2016	#140
"anti-Poc votes"??? Links? That is a flat out LIE. Bernie has fought for civil rights for DECADES.	cui bono	Jan 2016	#148
+100000	nashville_brook	Jan 2016	#156
Would you prefer "Cut It Out"?	brentspeak	Jan 2016	#117
?? And this has what to do with my post?	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2016	#124
I have other concerns, such as that it reminds me of venereal diseases. However, I got over it.	JonLeibowitz	Jan 2016	#10
Ha Ha - that's funny	Empowerer	Jan 2016	#13
hey well, feel the bern, baby!	delrem	Jan 2016	#78
"Feel the burn" is a fitness meme.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Jan 2016	#15
I know the phrase's origin -	Empowerer	Jan 2016	#18
Except for exercise fanatics. They love it.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Jan 2016	#20
There is some congruity with the Sanders campaign,	Maedhros	Jan 2016	#202
Well that is your opinion. No one says you have to adopt it. For those who like it they use it.	liberal_at_heart	Jan 2016	#22
Wow	Empowerer	Jan 2016	#27
Wow? There is hardly anything harsh about either one of my posts. I simply said if you don't like it	liberal_at_heart	Jan 2016	#29
Most people do. It really seems to irritate a few though.	Live and Learn	Jan 2016	#57
I would say you are overreacting to the response you are calling an "interesting" 'reaction'.	cui bono	Jan 2016	#71
I've heard that, but as I (and most of the country) am not a fitness nut that meaning is lost on me.	JonLeibowitz	Jan 2016	#40
As we have seen with this thread any word or phrase can be taken more than one way. It is	liberal_at_heart	Jan 2016	#54
I never took it that way	Glamrock	Jan 2016	#208
"I'm feeling Bernie" could have awkward connotations.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Jan 2016	#209
I was thinking the same thing as I typed it.	Glamrock	Jan 2016	#210
A burn is also slang for a particularly witty or effective insult.	wildeyed	Jan 2016	#214
It's funny and I thought of that too.	delrem	Jan 2016	#74
Doesn't put me off, but was surprised,	elleng	Jan 2016	#11
That's very surprising, since the grass roots rallying cry has nothing to do with "eating hot sauce"	delrem	Jan 2016	#26
There is a 'Feel the Bern' challenge going around.	Live and Learn	Jan 2016	#61
Yah, I can understand that. Not so much the scenario that elleng described,	delrem	Jan 2016	#64
I only feel it's an insult when used by those not supporting the Sanders campaign	mythology	Jan 2016	#12
I don't think that people shouldn't say it if they want.	Empowerer	Jan 2016	#14
It isn't any wonder to a Sanders supporter	delrem	Jan 2016	#28
So, I must be a right winger "without a progressive bone in my body"	Empowerer	Jan 2016	#30
Yes.	delrem	Jan 2016	#38
Yup you dared to question something to do with Senator Sanders and not in a 100% positive way.	zappaman	Jan 2016	#137
Indeed!	Chemisse	Jan 2016	#159
This message was self-deleted by its author	Chemisse	Jan 2016	#160
Right?	wildeyed	Jan 2016	#216
It's about energy, fire and a message that spreads	Android3.14	Jan 2016	#17
Not sure why you would assume that I'm looking for taunts	Empowerer	Jan 2016	#23
Oh, brother.	earthside	Jan 2016	#24
I do?	Empowerer	Jan 2016	#25
A one who admires word play, I find it...	3catwoman3	Jan 2016	#32
No. Leave it alone. It is clever and catchy.	AgadorSparticus	Jan 2016	#33
"Leave it alone?"	Empowerer	Jan 2016	#36
As if you could do anything. Christ, it's just an expression.	AgadorSparticus	Jan 2016	#51
Word.	beam me up scottie	Jan 2016	#62
Ok. I just saw this boobs video. How freaking hilarious And clever!	AgadorSparticus	Jan 2016	#220
Except whine n/t	Oilwellian	Jan 2016	#173
I never liked catch phrases. I like to think for myself.	rusty quoin	Jan 2016	#35
I want the 1% to feel the burn	putitinD	Jan 2016	#41
Naw it's funny and self depreciating while making a point	Armstead	Jan 2016	#46
+10,000 nt	Live and Learn	Jan 2016	#65
I don't see it as self deprecating at all.	cui bono	Jan 2016	#79
A taunt to whom?	Luminous Animal	Jan 2016	#47
The OP.	delrem	Jan 2016	#49
I Saw A Feel The Bern Round Bumper Sticker Today	Yallow	Jan 2016	#50
I agree with you.	SunSeeker	Jan 2016	#53
Looks like the op got berned	Sheepshank	Jan 2016	#56
So long as you aren't put off by it, who gives a shit?	delrem	Jan 2016	#68
Doesn't really matter if I'm put off by it or not	Sheepshank	Jan 2016	#106
Interesting, isn't it?	Empowerer	Jan 2016	#85
Sad really. The over the top viciousness is very self-defeating. nt	SunSeeker	Jan 2016	#119
It's neither a taunt or an invitation	Kalidurga	Jan 2016	#60
It seems to appeal to a select group of people.	pnwmom	Jan 2016	#67
Could you be any more condescending?	cui bono	Jan 2016	#84
Really??? It's totally positive and uplifting!	cui bono	Jan 2016	#70
I love the phrase!	silverweb	Jan 2016	#72
Funny, because I find the phrase "Ready for Hillary"	artislife	Jan 2016	#73
Or something inevitable that we should be ready to be embraced by...	JonLeibowitz	Jan 2016	#77
"Ready for Hillary" is so last year!	delrem	Jan 2016	#80
Honestly, I find posts like these off-putting	demwing	Jan 2016	#81
that is simply not how other people interpret it	Douglas Carpenter	Jan 2016	#83
Exactly ... from day one. But ...	NurseJackie	Jan 2016	#86
That's an interesting take that hadn't occurred to me	Empowerer	Jan 2016	#88
even the score	questionseverything	Jan 2016	#157
Looking at Bernie's poll numbers and political endorsements ...	NurseJackie	Jan 2016	#167
Well...	quickesst	Jan 2016	#87
Why do you feel it's a taunt?	Smarmie Doofus	Jan 2016	#89
Maybe because "burn" is not a pleasant thing, so telling someone to "feel it" sounds harsh to me	Empowerer	Jan 2016	#98
well, as you have said - "OK"	demwing	Jan 2016	#128
Many variations in the way "burn" has been used.	Smarmie Doofus	Jan 2016	#145
It's spelled "Bern".	cui bono	Jan 2016	#151
Your post is a perfect illustration of why the phrase is off-putting	Empowerer	Jan 2016	#158
No, I don't "intend" to taunt. You are the one who is bringing up possible "negative" connotations.	cui bono	Jan 2016	#162
I certainly don't owe you any explanation for why I choose to post anything, but watching you	Empowerer	Jan 2016	#171
So I can presume my supposition was right.	cui bono	Jan 2016	#172
Please go on	Empowerer	Jan 2016	#175
So what did you hope to accomplish by posting the OP or this last post of yours?	cui bono	Jan 2016	#176
Feel the Bernout is gaining popularity.	R B Garr	Jan 2016	#181
Makes me think of his past writing.	NCTraveler	Jan 2016	#90
Or that old Bill Clinton Bern?	Armstead	Jan 2016	#93
Love me some Big Dog.	NCTraveler	Jan 2016	#94
I don't think slogans are worth thinking about one way or the other.	Vinca	Jan 2016	#91
That was kind of my initial reaction.	99Forever	Jan 2016	#92
Yep, those that don't like it just haven't felt it yet. nt	Live and Learn	Jan 2016	#149
So...	gordyfl	Jan 2016	#95
Love it! Catchy and clever.	nc4bo	Jan 2016	#96
ok. n/t	tazkcmo	Jan 2016	#97
Agreed. And it is used here like a taunt with a	R B Garr	Jan 2016	#99
Did you ever exercise ? You don't get anywhere without the BERN!	Ferd Berfel	Jan 2016	#102
Reminds me of "The 70s Show"	itsrobert	Jan 2016	#108
I found Hillary likening herself to my abuela to be off-putting. Like mockery...	Autumn	Jan 2016	#113
OK	Empowerer	Jan 2016	#114
It's like "Wipe the server? You mean, like with a cloth?"	JustABozoOnThisBus	Jan 2016	#116
No.	LWolf	Jan 2016	#120
Yes, I do	bobGandolf	Jan 2016	#122
LOL!	merrily	Jan 2016	#127
I find someone who finds "Feel the Bern" off-putting an off-putting type of person. Ciao forever. nt	valerief	Jan 2016	#130
The "bern" is inside. Come on baby light my fire kind of thing. nt	thereismore	Jan 2016	#133
It is a taunt. nt	Agnosticsherbet	Jan 2016	#139
And I find the phrase "Ready for Hillary" just weird...	ljm2002	Jan 2016	#141
I don't think it's supposed to mean anything.	Smarmie Doofus	Jan 2016	#166
ok fine,here	wendylaroux	Jan 2016	#143
I have no problem with it. It's nice peaceful little town	DFW	Jan 2016	#146
To me it evokes the idea of hard work for great gain. Striving for a goal.	Bluenorthwest	Jan 2016	#147
No I don't feel that way	shanti	Jan 2016	#154
When I first heard it (actually, first read it - on DU)	Chemisse	Jan 2016	#161
Any Mass Movement	On the Road	Jan 2016	#163
I tend not to go through life perpetually microaggrieved...	SMC22307	Jan 2016	#164
I'm 60, and don't relate to it either.	grntuscarora	Jan 2016	#165
I'm 60 as well, and...	Oilwellian	Jan 2016	#177
First heard it from Jane as well. Jane is 78 years old.	Bluenorthwest	Jan 2016	#191
Ah, I was busy that decade and missed it.	grntuscarora	Jan 2016	#194
I don't like anything .	olddots	Jan 2016	#168
I find the term "Third Way" off putting .....	TheFarS1de	Jan 2016	#169
sounds like a foot fungus commercial	dlwickham	Jan 2016	#178
We must confess, it is a personal taunt to YOU.	artislife	Jan 2016	#180
That's funny.	Empowerer	Jan 2016	#183
Then why did you write this I**tic OP?	artislife	Jan 2016	#184
Oh? I thought the campaign was casting a wide net because Bernie's going to unite the country ...	Empowerer	Jan 2016	#185
No. "Ready for Hillary" was far more 'taunting', if that is how you define it.	Betty Karlson	Jan 2016	#188
Oh, please - stop with the persecution complex	Empowerer	Jan 2016	#189
Persecution complex? This OP is about you thinking a punster sly campaign slogan is a 'taunt'.	Bluenorthwest	Jan 2016	#190
Some context for those who might have missed such things: Etymology 'Feel The Burn'-The phrase	Bluenorthwest	Jan 2016	#192
But in this decade,	wildeyed	Jan 2016	#217
Makes me cringe a little...	ecstatic	Jan 2016	#195
Sanders Group uses it as a taunt	itsrobert	Jan 2016	#196
The truth sure is inconvenient , isn't it ?	TheFarS1de	Jan 2016	#197
Why should it offend me?	itsrobert	Jan 2016	#198
Why would you consider the truth to be a taunt ?	TheFarS1de	Jan 2016	#199
Scaring a person's face with "BERNED" is not a taunt?	itsrobert	Jan 2016	#203
Scaring ?	TheFarS1de	Jan 2016	#207
That's exactly how I see it! In--your-face kind of	R B Garr	Jan 2016	#211
All political campain slogans are dumb	olddots	Jan 2016	#200
LOL	randys1	Jan 2016	#201
Get over it (nt)	matt819	Jan 2016	#204
Get over what?	itsrobert	Jan 2016	#205
Hillary 'I told Wall St to cut it out' rather off-putting as well, no real change will occur. nt	slipslidingaway	Jan 2016	#215
I know that stupid phrase guaranteed I would never even consider Sanders. eom	MohRokTah	Jan 2016	#218
Sure it's the reason ...	TheFarS1de	Jan 2016	#219
Deep. As deep as I've ever seen you get. Congrats. n/t	delrem	Jan 2016	#222

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