Clinton's tent is a two-man; only has room for Lloyd and Jamie. (Reply #62)

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62. Clinton's tent is a two-man; only has room for Lloyd and Jamie.

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Sen. Sanders: I know you mean well, but I don't WANT those people in our party [View all]	Empowerer	Dec 2015	OP
I think Bernie's tone is more about everyone being included in policy. Not a 'party'. As he states	ViseGrip	Dec 2015	#1
Then let me put it this way	Empowerer	Dec 2015	#4
I don't want "those people" in our party.	tecelote	Dec 2015	#38
"Those people" =	BlueMTexpat	Dec 2015	#39
Hating back and excluding people is not the answer.	tecelote	Dec 2015	#40
I was not arguing that they	BlueMTexpat	Dec 2015	#41
Bernie is not going after Trump supporters and ignoring his base.	tecelote	Dec 2015	#47
You are MUCH more optimistic	BlueMTexpat	Dec 2015	#50
There's always a risk.	tecelote	Dec 2015	#64
Not every Republican is a 'die hard racist and sexist bigot'	AgingAmerican	Dec 2015	#101
Bernie is wooing Trump supporters	Sheepshank	Dec 2015	#118
by appealing to them from the LEFT	AgingAmerican	Dec 2015	#136
Maybe some glitter and paper snowflake cut outs will aid all that leftward appealing? Nt	Sheepshank	Dec 2015	#138
Well, that was profound!	AgingAmerican	Dec 2015	#142
True. But I was	BlueMTexpat	Dec 2015	#120
Tea-partiers are almost entirely strong social conservatives.	Hortensis	Dec 2015	#79
He is appealing to a certain subset of Republicans FROM THE LEFT	AgingAmerican	Dec 2015	#99
Who was talking about "every" Republican? Not me.	Hortensis	Dec 2015	#112
Social conservatives are morons	AgingAmerican	Dec 2015	#137
I believe Hillary supporters are jealous of Sanders ability to appeal to a wider audience	AgingAmerican	Dec 2015	#95
"Something Hillary will never be able to do."	tecelote	Dec 2015	#107
I think you have found yourself a purpose to get you out from behind your keyboard	Sheepshank	Dec 2015	#119
Reacting against offensive behavior is not offensive behavior - it's rational behavior.	baldguy	Dec 2015	#63
No doubt, there are a lot of assholes that are Trump supporters.	tecelote	Dec 2015	#67
I don't blame you--Trump supporters are unafraid to beat up black and brown people.	MADem	Dec 2015	#55
THANK you!	Empowerer	Dec 2015	#85
When did Bernie "invite bigots" into our party?	Qutzupalotl	Dec 2015	#128
Is that not the premise of this thread?	MADem	Dec 2015	#135
Did you miss this from your link?	Qutzupalotl	Dec 2015	#166
Obama ran using anti gay hate preachers at his rallies. People who called us vampires and child	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2015	#69
It's never been about party building for Sanders	Sheepshank	Dec 2015	#5
+1	Dawson Leery	Dec 2015	#7
It ain't about the party, it's about the direction we're going as a country ...	ThePhilosopher04	Dec 2015	#10
I see you feel the Republicans don't need a unified front to keep them in check	Sheepshank	Dec 2015	#17
bernie party of one cares not about down ticket democrats or their welfare nt	msongs	Dec 2015	#34
Bingo. nt	MADem	Dec 2015	#56
Clinton supporters	ejbr	Dec 2015	#58
You got that right! He never had a kind thing to say about the democratic party	FloridaBlues	Dec 2015	#59
DWS has been destroying the Democratic Party for years, not Bernie	AZ Progressive	Dec 2015	#113
Ironically, it is the same argument used by some circles that the so-called "3rd way Democrats" are	still_one	Dec 2015	#108
Well said.	Sheepshank	Dec 2015	#2
I believe some could be deprogrammed	PowerToThePeople	Dec 2015	#3
I know many Sanders supporters think he walks on water and has magical powers that no one else has	Empowerer	Dec 2015	#9
I do not think it can be done with the actions of a single person	PowerToThePeople	Dec 2015	#11
Below I linked to your OP crafted excuses for the use of Rick 'gays are pedophiles' Warren by Obama	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2015	#74
Bravo! Pursuant to your point, the OP's 'concern' for civil rights strangely	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2015	#102
I would love for you to do a full tour of my previous posts - you might actually learn something	Empowerer	Dec 2015	#109
A quote from that link, in which you find a way to praise the use of an anti gay activist"	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2015	#154
So	JackInGreen	Dec 2015	#6
Let them correct their shit first, THEN we can talk	Empowerer	Dec 2015	#14
I'm sorry what you're sounding like is only interested in dominance	JackInGreen	Dec 2015	#24
That sounds like the GOP on foreign relations. You don't reach people by not talking to them.	cui bono	Dec 2015	#29
They give Bernie their vote..and suddenly they are 100% in for Socialist leadership?	Sheepshank	Dec 2015	#15
This! Absolutely this!	-none	Dec 2015	#127
Yes, I know....	daleanime	Dec 2015	#8
Do you count yourself	BlueMTexpat	Dec 2015	#42
They're misguided and their anger is misguided	Matariki	Dec 2015	#12
+1	ejbr	Dec 2015	#57
+Infinity! - nt	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2015	#98
+1	Martin Eden	Dec 2015	#134
I suspect some of the people who are supporting Trump right now	The Velveteen Ocelot	Dec 2015	#13
You may not think they're racists and white supremacists and teabaggers . . .	Empowerer	Dec 2015	#18
Thankfully, Bernie is not as predjudiced as you are.	Maedhros	Dec 2015	#26
^^^This.	artislife	Dec 2015	#45
+10,000 nt	Live and Learn	Dec 2015	#89
I'm not buying in to hate	Empowerer	Dec 2015	#93
Just out of curiosity, did you exhibit the same degree of concern for the 1,000,000 innocent	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2015	#103
You are making assumptions about people you have never met and know almost nothing about.	Maedhros	Dec 2015	#140
Interesting-I look forward to seeing Sanders supporters step away from that Bernie v. Hillary feud,	Empowerer	Dec 2015	#143
I support Sanders reaching out to Clinton supporters. [n/t]	Maedhros	Dec 2015	#144
I hear what Empowerer is saying and I understand it.	Skidmore	Dec 2015	#147
well said	grasswire	Dec 2015	#22
+1	Martin Eden	Dec 2015	#131
It is shocking to me how many haven't a clue how a 2 way	pipoman	Dec 2015	#16
And it's shocking to me how many people don't have a clue that a 2-way race does not require	Empowerer	Dec 2015	#20
Wrong	pipoman	Dec 2015	#23
So then why did Obama 'reach out' to anti gay conservatives like Rick Warren? Why did Hillary do	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2015	#81
To get to the two-way race,	BlueMTexpat	Dec 2015	#44
There are a lot here who are quick to pretend to know who is supporting Trump	pipoman	Dec 2015	#87
Don't worry, it will fail.	Starry Messenger	Dec 2015	#19
let's use my cousin as an example of a Trump supporter	grasswire	Dec 2015	#21
+1000 nt	Live and Learn	Dec 2015	#90
I really wish you would consider fashioning this into an OP and	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2015	#105
Excellent post	Martin Eden	Dec 2015	#133
Earning their votes is not equivalent to bringing them into the Party.	Maedhros	Dec 2015	#25
He is triangulating.	Skidmore	Dec 2015	#129
What common ground do they share?	ucrdem	Dec 2015	#27
Yeah, there is that.. solid common ground on the ODS.. will that be enough to leave the charismatic	Cha	Dec 2015	#155
I see what you mean,	Nyan	Dec 2015	#28
Exactly. Racists should be ostracized, not legitimized as coveted supporters. nt	SunSeeker	Dec 2015	#30
Sounds desperate.. what a turn off.	Cha	Dec 2015	#156
Please see post #162 for an excellent refutation.	JonLeibowitz	Dec 2015	#164
I don't associate with racists and bigots.	Tortmaster	Dec 2015	#31
right--only yuppies and neolib cultists need to be allowed in!	MisterP	Dec 2015	#32
Well we have to keep out those undesirable hateful types	JackInGreen	Dec 2015	#33
These voters	TSIAS	Dec 2015	#35
Heh.	artislife	Dec 2015	#48
Hmmmm.... let's see.... exactly who was it who said:	BigBearJohn	Dec 2015	#36
Exactly - he called them 'Obamacans'!	beam me up scottie	Dec 2015	#43
That is a 2014 quote from President Barack Obama	BlueMTexpat	Dec 2015	#49
Here you'll need these:	beam me up scottie	Dec 2015	#51
Actually, it's a quote from, Barack Obama, candidate for U.S. Senate as he delivered the keynote	BigBearJohn	Dec 2015	#141
Thanks for the correction about it being said earlier, BBJ!	BlueMTexpat	Dec 2015	#152
I feel so besmirched!	Helen Borg	Dec 2015	#37
Those folks have been voting against their own interests for years	greymattermom	Dec 2015	#46
Your assumption about all Trump supporters being of a single mind is flawed.	Scuba	Dec 2015	#52
^ This.	bvf	Dec 2015	#61
Imagine	Deny and Shred	Dec 2015	#84
The cognitive dissonance is strong in Camp Weathervane.	Scuba	Dec 2015	#86
I'm a little suprised...	MrWendel	Dec 2015	#53
I think Clintons idea of a big tent is...	NCTraveler	Dec 2015	#54
Clinton's tent is a two-man; only has room for Lloyd and Jamie.	Scuba	Dec 2015	#62
Ok. If that is what the know facts are telling you.	NCTraveler	Dec 2015	#66
Rick Fucking Warren. I was told I needed to be okay with Rick Fucking Warren. So - I don't buy the	djean111	Dec 2015	#60
The OP praised the use of Warren as brilliant juxtapositioning...	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2015	#72
Again, they must honestly believe the rest of us have amnesia and don't know how to search	djean111	Dec 2015	#73
No what they believe is that we are inferior and that denigrating us does not count.	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2015	#76
No, I didn't - and shame on you for blatantly misrepresenting my previous comments	Empowerer	Dec 2015	#88
Everyone can see that you cast the 'symbolism' in a shiny, favorable golden light.	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2015	#157
+1000 nt	Live and Learn	Dec 2015	#91
'besmirch"	Enrique	Dec 2015	#65
.	stonecutter357	Dec 2015	#82
And I don't want Jamie dimon. So?	Doctor_J	Dec 2015	#68
Hey OP if you did not loudly denounce Rick Warren and Kirbyjon Caldwell and Donnie McClurkin	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2015	#70
It's like they don't think we have our memories and Teh Googler, isn't it? :-) n/t	djean111	Dec 2015	#71
I think it reflects their grossly prejudiced views of LGBT and their own supremacist ideas about	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2015	#77
I most certainly did in real time and I have the same problem the OP does with going after Trump	dsc	Dec 2015	#106
We have differing views of Obama's first years. He very much felt that the process he engaged in	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2015	#159
again I was loudly and longly complaining about Obama's conduct in this	dsc	Dec 2015	#160
It doesn't make sense to totally dismiss such a large chunk of the population.	Vinca	Dec 2015	#75
You burned that bridge down for Rick Warren, pal. You need to step up and discuss this bullshit.	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2015	#78
You're lying.	Empowerer	Dec 2015	#96
The links are right here in this thread and others can judge your lack of consistency and also I	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2015	#158
Hillary's sermon at Rick Warren's Saddleback Church was a peach. All about how great Rick is	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2015	#80
Comparing this cycle to 08 really spotlights the homophobes on DU.	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2015	#83
Sen. Clinton: I don't want this person in our party:	KingCharlemagne	Dec 2015	#92
You just do not get it	AgingAmerican	Dec 2015	#94
Hard core bigots will not be moved--others whose motives are primarily economic--maybe so.	bklyncowgirl	Dec 2015	#97
The fact that so many of you are attacking an OP that objects to aligning with bigots	Empowerer	Dec 2015	#100
You can't stop them from voting	My Good Babushka	Dec 2015	#104
When you start with flawed assumptions...	99Forever	Dec 2015	#110
Yes you do...	MellowDem	Dec 2015	#111
The 30% or so of Republicans that are backing Trump	redstateblues	Dec 2015	#114
Your point is an interesting one	Empowerer	Dec 2015	#116
Too bad your party is getting smaller and smaller all the time.	Autumn	Dec 2015	#115
Up to this point in the thread, there's been a thrashing.	Juicy_Bellows	Dec 2015	#117
Have you been okay,	LWolf	Dec 2015	#121
No, I haven't been ok with it - and have actively fought against it	Empowerer	Dec 2015	#122
While I fully	LWolf	Dec 2015	#125
Well put LWolf. I am not as concerned with the voters as I am those in power. They are the ones to	liberal_at_heart	Dec 2015	#123
+10,000 I couldn't agree more. Great post. nt	Live and Learn	Dec 2015	#145
Bernie is not going to jepordize his base for Trumps racists	Ferd Berfel	Dec 2015	#124
People can change. But they have to be reached first	Tom Rinaldo	Dec 2015	#126
I find it instructive...	Koinos	Dec 2015	#130
Elections are won with cross-over votes. It does not mean that they joined the party.	Hiraeth	Dec 2015	#132
I doubt anybody thinks that Bernie or anyone else can win over all or	Douglas Carpenter	Dec 2015	#139
+1000 You are so right. I have talked quite a few 'Trump supporters' in to voting for Bernie.	Live and Learn	Dec 2015	#146
Bernie is trying to grow the party. Hillary is trying to shrink the party.	jfern	Dec 2015	#148
"These people" are part of our electorate and our country.	Live and Learn	Dec 2015	#149
There are millions of decent, non-racist people - including many people of color - who don't hate,	Empowerer	Dec 2015	#151
Better to try to bring people to the left	RedCappedBandit	Dec 2015	#150
Obama 08 did concerts and rallies with anti gay preachers such as Donnie 'war on gays' McClurkin	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2015	#153
Hillary Clinton's opening remarks to Rick Warren's Church.	Bluenorthwest	Dec 2015	#161
Uh... yeah....	kenfrequed	Dec 2015	#162
Nicely said. Thank you	riversedge	Dec 2015	#163
Hillary Supporters are trying to bring corporatists and Republicans-Light into our party.	Betty Karlson	Dec 2015	#165

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