2016 Postmortem

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211. Woman will vote for hillary

Sun Dec 27, 2015, 08:37 AM

Dec 2015

I am so fregging tired of hearing that women will vote for Hillary. That is so insulting, I will vote for Bernie and I am a woman. I will vote for the candidate that I feel will best serve the interest of America and humanity as a whole and that certainly is not her!! I live in a blue state so any democratic contender will take the state. But I find that soo insulting, vote for me I am a woman. OH, and now vote for me I am a grandmother.

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I think we can put to bed the "We have to vote for Hillary or the Republicans win" argument. [View all] Dustlawyer Dec 2015 OP

Bernie is not viable in general election Gothmog Dec 2015 #1

Independents, Republican cross over appeal, first time voters and discouraged voters. tazkcmo Dec 2015 #2

Excellent point. A conveniently overlooked excellent point. Enthusiast Dec 2015 #35

Not true. She would win Independents 43 to 36 against Trump. SunSeeker Dec 2015 #62

Women will vote for Clinton. I expect many former GOP women, women who pnwmom Dec 2015 #152

personally, i do not know any women voting for hillary ~ hopemountain Dec 2015 #182

I'm a woman. I won't vote for her. Hun Joro Dec 2015 #184

One of my young relatives lives in San Francisco pnwmom Dec 2015 #185

Must be isolated pockets nt Plucketeer Dec 2015 #195

Woman will vote for hillary yikes1 Dec 2015 #211

Well, his viability in the primary certainly seems to disprove your assertion Android3.14 Dec 2015 #3

She has very few, We the People donors. Many are angry that a 1%er would contact them by email DhhD Dec 2015 #47

How? Sanders is being given a 6% chance of being the nominee Gothmog Dec 2015 #92

That 6% is for being the nominee, not for winning the GE Android3.14 Dec 2015 #94

We are in the primary process and you are free to vote for who you want for any reason you want Gothmog Dec 2015 #98

Your logic is incorrect, and therefore a bad strategy Android3.14 Dec 2015 #99

You are wrong Gothmog Dec 2015 #106

The data shows Sanders can win the GE better than Clinton Android3.14 Dec 2015 #121

Can you explain how Sanders is viable in a general election contest? Gothmog Dec 2015 #133

Bad data, bad assumptions. Android3.14 Dec 2015 #137

But Clinton will have super pacs and other support in the general election Gothmog Dec 2015 #145

Money does not win campaigns Android3.14 Dec 2015 #148

Assuming there is any GOP fundraising. The Golden One Dec 2015 #153

The Koch brothers wrote off 2016 The Golden One Dec 2015 #151

All the polls say you are wrong. bvar22 Dec 2015 #123

If you really believe this, then vote for Sanders Gothmog Dec 2015 #131

What is "adequated" financing? Some kind of magic that someone is "blessing" Clinton with? cascadiance Dec 2015 #147

How do you know Bernie won't raise enough money for the GE? Bernblu Dec 2015 #198

President Obama had the best fundraising machine in history and he needed a super pac Gothmog Dec 2015 #212

add +1 to the "Bernie is unelectable" meme counter. nt antigop Dec 2015 #213

Meh - it also had Jeb winning the GOP nomination in August. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #112

And today, Predictwise has Jeb! at 10% Gothmog Dec 2015 #115

And you're gonna vote for Bernie when he's the nominee, right? Fawke Em Dec 2015 #208

While money is an issue, his greatly increased publicity will garner a lot more supporters/voters/ Dustlawyer Dec 2015 #4

If he beats Hillary, he can win the general. LuvNewcastle Dec 2015 #10

That simply doesn't seem realistic Orrex Dec 2015 #18

She is determined to win, and has already LuvNewcastle Dec 2015 #22

Again, I don't think that's realistic Orrex Dec 2015 #28

Lets see if dirty Rovian tricks can be added in, after the findings of the DNC/DWS investigation DhhD Dec 2015 #55

That might be relevant in the primary. *Might* be... Orrex Dec 2015 #60

It was battle-tested by FDR even with his own family voting against him. This country still DhhD Dec 2015 #188

battle test this quoddy woman Dec 2015 #37

I hate sports analogies, but... Ned_Devine Dec 2015 #43

By that logic, my 84 year old neighbor will be our next president Orrex Dec 2015 #57

So then, the argument is that we have to give in to and be a parrt of allowing the 1%, the JDPriestly Dec 2015 #82

'We simply cannot afford Hillary. She is not in our price range.' well said JDPriestly. sorechasm Dec 2015 #89

It must be so convenient to be a Sanders supporter Orrex Dec 2015 #103

Bernie has campaigned against well funded opponents over and over. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #162

In the second-smallest constituency in the union Orrex Dec 2015 #164

What makes me believe that Sanders is prepared for the GOP? JDPriestly Dec 2015 #167

More platitudes Orrex Dec 2015 #170

Hillary's ideas are weak. I don't think she can win with them. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #171

"Every once in a while in our history the little guys win. " Orrex Dec 2015 #173

Hear hear! +100 Karma13612 Dec 2015 #110

I keep hearing that but are you saying that the GOP will be 'nicer' to Hillary? azurnoir Dec 2015 #174

Why would you think that I'm saying that? I've said nothing like that. Orrex Dec 2015 #183

Sanders is up to a 6% chances of being the nominee Gothmog Dec 2015 #77

Your giving Sanders a 6% chance of being the Democratic nominee is wishful thinking. Here Cal33 Dec 2015 #93

Predictwise is the successor to Intrade Gothmog Dec 2015 #95

What a joke-the kids who ran this mock election ignore the DNC rules Gothmog Dec 2015 #97

They predicted who would win in the generl elections, and they have never been wrong Cal33 Dec 2015 #142

You are welcome to rely on this flawed but funny mock election Gothmog Dec 2015 #144

Their accuracy is 100%. They have never been wrong in 40 years. You may call it funny, but Cal33 Dec 2015 #163

The fact that anyone would rely on a mock election that gives most of the Texas delegates to Sanders Gothmog Dec 2015 #176

The only way to be sure is to wait until Nov.8, 2016. Until then, have a good 10 months. Cal33 Dec 2015 #187

No, we will know that this prediction is bogus on Super Tuesday Gothmog Dec 2015 #189

Okay, Super Tuesday, it is. And I'm not interested in being a businessman. Never was; Cal33 Dec 2015 #209

I think this is true SoLeftIAmRight Dec 2015 #120

Sanders started out at .8 percent in Iowa CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #64

Iowa and NH are homogeneous States. He'll hit a firewall in SC. BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #84

Your comment that Iowa is homogeneous is offensive CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #91

According to Nate Silver, Sanders can win both Iowa and NH and still not be the nominee Gothmog Dec 2015 #101

Iowa and HN...may be only *two states* CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #102

I trust Nate Silver on this Gothmog Dec 2015 #108

I get it... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #111

No, I just know that demographics are what control elections and the primary process Gothmog Dec 2015 #113

I think Latino and African American voters... CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #117

Sanders supporters have been making this claim for months now Gothmog Dec 2015 #122

Texas has three times the number of delegates as Iowa and NH combined Gothmog Dec 2015 #218

add +1 to the "Bernie is unelectable" meme counter. nt antigop Dec 2015 #214

Ignoring an issue will not make that issue go away Gothmog Dec 2015 #219

add +1 to the "Bernie is unelectable" meme counter. nt antigop Dec 2015 #221

My apologies, but it is true...and it's only offensive if you choose see it that way and, BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #105

You have no idea what you are talking about CoffeeCat Dec 2015 #109

How does this theory fit with the complaints that Sanders is being ignored by the media? Gothmog Dec 2015 #76

that is true -- Hillary has nowhere to GROW grasswire Dec 2015 #87

If Lessig really wanted to help AllyCat Dec 2015 #7

Do you think that if you say it enough..... daleanime Dec 2015 #9

So you're saying Hillary supporters A Simple Game Dec 2015 #11

I will support and vote for the Democratic candidate Gothmog Dec 2015 #80

add +1 to the "Bernie is unelectable" meme counter. nt antigop Dec 2015 #215

Three reasons: 1) 2015 spending trend; 2) untapped donations 3) local volunteers sorechasm Dec 2015 #19

^^^This!^^^ peacebird Dec 2015 #26

^^This!^^^^^This!^^^ 90-percent Dec 2015 #36

add +1 to the "Bernie is unelectable" meme counter. nt antigop Dec 2015 #29

Baloney. This argument has been trotted out over and over. Given Bernie's having overcome many GoneFishin Dec 2015 #31

And yet Sanders is only at 6% chance of being the nominee Gothmog Dec 2015 #88

Another poll-driven Hillarite The Golden One Dec 2015 #158

Bernie would landslide them AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #41

This sounds like: artislife Dec 2015 #50

Lessig is one voice. Bernie will win. Our voices count the most and he is the one who can turn roguevalley Dec 2015 #56

Bernie is a socialist: with very few qualifications for leading lewebley3 Dec 2015 #66

yyyaaaaawwwwwnnnnnn. #FeeltheBern!!! eom Karma13612 Dec 2015 #114

You are aware that Bernie's small donor efforts have already exceeded Obama's, then? LiberalAndProud Dec 2015 #68

And President Obama used a super pac in 2012 Gothmog Dec 2015 #75

Yes. We are owned and we'd best face up to it. LiberalAndProud Dec 2015 #125

The only way that we can change Citizens United is win 2016 election Gothmog Dec 2015 #130

Your optimism is attractive. LiberalAndProud Dec 2015 #141

Hillary Clinton’s litmus test for Supreme Court nominees: a pledge to overturn Citizens United Gothmog Dec 2015 #146

As promises go, I was schooled by the absence of the public option. LiberalAndProud Dec 2015 #156

Obama and most, if not all, Democrats want something done on Citizens United Gothmog Dec 2015 #161

natter and natter. LiberalAndProud Dec 2015 #169

How Sanders will be viable in GE? Do you really want to know, or are you just being rhetorical here? 99th_Monkey Dec 2015 #74

Wait! catnhatnh Dec 2015 #79

The DNC and most Democracts (myself included) would support Sanders if he is the nominee Gothmog Dec 2015 #81

If Bernie's message about the billionaire class continues to resonate... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #86

Lol, goal posts moving again At first he 'didn't have a chance of even being noticed, was going to sabrina 1 Dec 2015 #172

We are in the primary process and you are free to vote for who you want for any reason you want Gothmog Dec 2015 #178

So I guess You're Saying, quite Clearly I might Add... CorporatistNation Dec 2015 #175

Not at all-I and the DNC will support the nominee of the party Gothmog Dec 2015 #177

Simple math: Sanders voters call X and the HRC voters call Y. rhett o rick Dec 2015 #180

Your logic is really sad in that you assume that Sanders is viable in a general election Gothmog Dec 2015 #190

And you define "viable" by how much money he can raise. Now that's sad. rhett o rick Dec 2015 #197

In the real world money is important in elections Gothmog Dec 2015 #199

So we should sell out to big money and forget about solving the poverty problems. Well go ahead. rhett o rick Dec 2015 #201

The problem with Hillary is voters will stay home she is the 2016 Romney, picked by the people Todays_Illusion Dec 2015 #193

Same was said for FDR (socialist) and JFK (Catholic). Same BS, different person Feeling the Bern Dec 2015 #207

Keep trying to put a good man down. tecelote Dec 2015 #5

+1000000 SammyWinstonJack Dec 2015 #17

to the 10th power! eom. Karma13612 Dec 2015 #116

Bernie IS the one polling much further ahead of the republican candidates. ViseGrip Dec 2015 #6

Because the Republicans won't gladly do everything they can to hang the word mythology Dec 2015 #8

BSers like to downplay the "socialist" redstateblues Dec 2015 #13

Tail Gunner Joe called... 99Forever Dec 2015 #20

Yeah right. It will be a huge asset redstateblues Dec 2015 #25

Fuck the Republicans and the Red Scare fear you share with them. 99Forever Dec 2015 #27

You're in denial, and your hostility is a revelation Orrex Dec 2015 #30

no one is saying the repubs won't come after Sanders. But they will be at least Karma13612 Dec 2015 #119

You mean the late Trey Gowdy? Orrex Dec 2015 #160

Hit a real nerve there redstateblues Dec 2015 #166

it's enough to keep me from supporting him in the primary hfojvt Dec 2015 #48

Repubs called Obama much worse names the second time around. safeinOhio Dec 2015 #61

give an example hfojvt Dec 2015 #70

I don't think he is a "Socialist", he is a Democratic Socialist. safeinOhio Dec 2015 #73

Think it is from the 1950s? 99Forever Dec 2015 #63

Were you perhaps there hfojvt Dec 2015 #72

Is there some part of... 99Forever Dec 2015 #78

The GOP have been calling everydemocrat since FDR a socialist. Paka Dec 2015 #168

This one has a lot of posts that sound like 1952. nt artislife Dec 2015 #54

I think some of those 50% are persuadable thesquanderer Dec 2015 #24

Excellent points. Enthusiast Dec 2015 #38

Yes. "Those who are most virulently anti-socialist (including that contingent who call Obama TryLogic Dec 2015 #44

To change a position like that takes money Gothmog Dec 2015 #90

I am thinking it's useless to try to convince you otherwise. But, here goes: Are you aware that Karma13612 Dec 2015 #124

So money does not matter and Twitter and youtube are magic. Gothmog Dec 2015 #135

They'll be redbaiting like crazy around the clock Nyan Dec 2015 #39

Vermont has a large contingent of Republicans and even more Independents. RichVRichV Dec 2015 #71

OK, so in the world of HRC supporters, Republicans are gonna quit being obstructionists... Ned Flanders Dec 2015 #159

Astute observation Populist_Prole Dec 2015 #205

Liberals need to grow a spine and stop cringing because Republicans criticize us. Maedhros Dec 2015 #202

Nope. eom MohRokTah Dec 2015 #12

I doubt it. Cassiopeia Dec 2015 #14

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #15

I, for one agree. Amimnoch Dec 2015 #16

I think Bernie loses to a center-right candidate firebrand80 Dec 2015 #21

I've never argued that dbackjon Dec 2015 #23

Actually, they better start lining up behind Bernie if they're concerned about NorthCarolina Dec 2015 #32

That is a very important point. Duval Dec 2015 #69

that's always been a baseless excuse, not a good reason from Hillarians stupidicus Dec 2015 #33

The Republicans are facing a graver saltpoint Dec 2015 #34

Huge +1! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #40

Fact: Bernie is more electable than Hillary! Helen Borg Dec 2015 #42

I AGREE TryLogic Dec 2015 #45

I think polls even agree. TryLogic Dec 2015 #46

It won't be Trump leading the R ticket JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2015 #49

Agree that the country club bunch saltpoint Dec 2015 #53

I will vote 4 whomever gets the nomination dembotoz Dec 2015 #51

If Bernie would win the Dem nomination, he would face - OhZone Dec 2015 #52

If Hillary wins the Dem nomination, she will face... Ino Dec 2015 #58

All of Clinton's dirty laundry has been aired for decades now Gothmog Dec 2015 #85

Which is not going to prevent the GOP from inventing new ones. They always do. It Cal33 Dec 2015 #96

How well did this work in the recent Benghazi hearings? Gothmog Dec 2015 #140

..and it will ALL be brought out again....and MORE. bvar22 Dec 2015 #126

But, the HUGE problem with Hillary is that there are always more surfacing Karma13612 Dec 2015 #128

And Hillary wouldn't also face a billion dollars of negative ads? SheilaT Dec 2015 #59

Any Democrat going into the General will face the RW money and smears. Bernie is Dustlawyer Dec 2015 #65

The country needs to gear up libodem Dec 2015 #67

The above polling ignores the effect of $300 million of more in negative ads Gothmog Dec 2015 #83

You do realize both of those polls/stats are between 4 and 5 YEARS old Karma13612 Dec 2015 #132

I bet that the GOP has more recent polling Gothmog Dec 2015 #134

That doesn't mean your polling is still accurate Karma13612 Dec 2015 #138

I'm sorry, but this just isn't consistent with reality. Bleacher Creature Dec 2015 #100

+1 nt NurseJackie Dec 2015 #107

So the Democrats supporting Hillary clinton in December... Scootaloo Dec 2015 #136

Voter turnout is the #1 issue facing Democrats in every national election. Bleacher Creature Dec 2015 #143

where did they say that in that post? Skittles Dec 2015 #179

The "one issue candidate" meme has been shown to be just that, a meme MANY times. cui bono Dec 2015 #165

Hillary is the one issue candidate Doctor_J Dec 2015 #186

So primary polls are unreliable Dem2 Dec 2015 #104

Hillary would mobilize the Republican base - YES SoLeftIAmRight Dec 2015 #118

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #127

Last night on Coast to Coast Am with George Noory, truedelphi Dec 2015 #129

Well, Seth said it, then I guess we can relax Android3.14 Dec 2015 #154

That source is just as reliable as the mock election from the kids who are clueless as to poltics Gothmog Dec 2015 #191

YES WE CAN - even when Obama didn't. eom Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #139

It's actually quite amazing how Bernie is left of center and yet has cross over appeal. liberal_at_heart Dec 2015 #149

Bernie has never had the Rethugs aim all their guns at him. When they do -- pnwmom Dec 2015 #150

"you don't CARE if Trump wins!" say the ones who want the weaker-polling candidate to win MisterP Dec 2015 #155

That's why I call people everyday for Bernie and 99% of the rest of us . n/t orpupilofnature57 Dec 2015 #157

That stuff just simply isn't true. George II Dec 2015 #181

That argument never worked on me anyway. liberal_at_heart Dec 2015 #192

He won't be a drag on the ticket. Babel_17 Dec 2015 #194

IMHO - A Vote For HRC In The Primary Is A Vote For Trump In The General Election cantbeserious Dec 2015 #196

Hillary is status quo, Bernie is trying to change the corrupt dynamic. Dustlawyer Dec 2015 #200

sorry MFM008 Dec 2015 #203

Lame Populist_Prole Dec 2015 #204

I understand how you feel. I like your Che avatar, but this is just my humble opinion -- akbacchus_BC Dec 2015 #206

TRUMP MAY NOT BE THEIR NOMINEE!!! nt Herman4747 Dec 2015 #210

I put that to bed a long time ago. nt antigop Dec 2015 #216

You must have struck a nerve, Dustlawyer. nt antigop Dec 2015 #217

By pretending that the concerns of a large number of democrats do not matter Gothmog Dec 2015 #220

add +1 to the "Bernie is unelectable" meme counter. nt antigop Dec 2015 #222

Beware: Someone Is Trying to Convince You That Bernie Can't Win antigop Dec 2015 #223