2016 Postmortem

highprincipleswork

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133. Exactly. Why it's so hard to see that this would be in everyone's interest is beyond me.

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So, in summary . . . [View all] Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 OP

excellent recap of the sitch so far. restorefreedom Dec 2015 #1

Weaver looked like he was in over his head. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #2

Will be into both incidents. .... daleanime Dec 2015 #5

Typical republican approach; attack others for what you did? Blue_Adept Dec 2015 #16

Typical baloney merrily Dec 2015 #21

that is literally what Sanders supporters are doing. It's the bully-approach KittyWampus Dec 2015 #106

Um, no. That's a classic Clinton supporter move. And your post is a perfect example. merrily Dec 2015 #109

You are correct. Just look at Schultz's reaction -- she backed down immediately. That Cal33 Dec 2015 #189

I think this is more about Hillary's supporters. merrily Dec 2015 #190

U don't know what your talking about. bjobotts Dec 2015 #139

Go to the server's web site for the truth.DWS lied bjobotts Dec 2015 #140

Sanders is as honest as the day is long and Clinton has been know for a decade for her rhett o rick Dec 2015 #142

Rhett, you can repeat the Bernana homesty meme as many times as you like, but... Nitram Dec 2015 #152

And you don't know the facts. My money is on dirty tricks by the DWS/Clinton team. nm rhett o rick Dec 2015 #161

I'm interested in neither your money nor your speculation. Nitram Dec 2015 #164

The corp-media has come out in favor of HRC. Why would I expect them to be honest? nm rhett o rick Dec 2015 #165

Only when it supports Berrnie, I know. nt Nitram Dec 2015 #166

Big corporations love HRC including the media companies. The People love Sanders. rhett o rick Dec 2015 #171

Ah, "the People". Nitram Dec 2015 #172

I think you will find that even if he doesn't have ALL the People on his side right now Proserpina Dec 2015 #174

You really do have a dark view of your fellow Democrats. Nitram Dec 2015 #180

I won't tell you what you sound like Proserpina Dec 2015 #181

Ok, now that's just creepy. Nitram Dec 2015 #183

My Mom died last year, btw. Nitram Dec 2015 #184

Yep and the Oligarchy better beware. Goldman-Sachs money cant buy everyone. nm rhett o rick Dec 2015 #178

You've got that backwards. The people are fortunate to have Bernie on their side. cui bono Dec 2015 #194

So maybe Debs should have gotten federal cyber crimes involved JackInGreen Dec 2015 #146

""perpetrator" of the incident the one taking it to court?" pangaia Dec 2015 #44

Sanders campaign obviously knows NorthCarolina Dec 2015 #73

I have a theory too. Chef Eric Dec 2015 #116

If NorthCarolina Dec 2015 #117

I agree that Sanders has a better chance in the GE. Chef Eric Dec 2015 #124

Then let's get busy. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #137

MC, you're just plain wrong because... Nitram Dec 2015 #153

My theory: The truth will wire or rewire the Superdelegates in the right connections. DhhD Dec 2015 #156

Fantasy thinking..."over his head"...surely you meant DWS at present. If it happened libdem4life Dec 2015 #27

His main claim to fame before becoming Sanders' Campaign Manager was.... George II Dec 2015 #56

Oh Noes!!!! Phlem Dec 2015 #63

So now we denigrate small business owners??? catnhatnh Dec 2015 #76

Who is denigrating him? George II Dec 2015 #79

So the Gif on your post catnhatnh Dec 2015 #83

I'd cower behind implication too LanternWaste Dec 2015 #151

Denigrate small business owners? Not exactly. Nitram Dec 2015 #154

Harry Truman was a small (and failed) business owner Proserpina Dec 2015 #176

The political process was a great deal less complicated in Truman's day. Nitram Dec 2015 #177

Pathetic Proserpina Dec 2015 #179

BTW, Proserpina, you shouldn't have eaten those pomegranate seeds. Nitram Dec 2015 #186

You're going there!! tobefree Dec 2015 #80

He's done that since he's retired BuelahWitch Dec 2015 #115

Oh, nevermind. cui bono Dec 2015 #128

Correction - his comic book store is in Virginia, not Vermont. Sorry. George II Dec 2015 #129

I love Stuart! roody Dec 2015 #144

Comic book stores are often very successful small businesses. Also, millenials tblue37 Dec 2015 #192

Vocabulary assistance Android3.14 Dec 2015 #59

Exactly. Their appearce is just that. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #91

Co-President Hillary helped pick the White House staffers, right? catnhatnh Dec 2015 #75

Don't kid yourself. madfloridian Dec 2015 #85

Hmmm, so the guy who's in "over his head"... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #87

The DNC had or should have had a contract with its vendor that specified that the vendor had JDPriestly Dec 2015 #89

They weren't given it, they had to look. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #107

Do you have proof that the two databases were completely separate at that time? JDPriestly Dec 2015 #125

Exactly why they sued. tazkcmo Dec 2015 #131

There is also the fact that Sanders suffered a loss for many reasons because of the JDPriestly Dec 2015 #135

You guys go on and on about poor Bernie's "loss". Nitram Dec 2015 #168

What "malfeasance" are you talking about? JDPriestly Dec 2015 #173

This. Nitram Dec 2015 #175

That article is poorly researched. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #187

Are you suggesting that NGP Van has no reason to cover up or huge the facts? Nitram Dec 2015 #191

Please don't read this post JackInGreen Dec 2015 #147

Great summary Paka Dec 2015 #114

Good summary. eom PosterChild Dec 2015 #102

LOL. A Clinton staffer wrote the program and has full unfettered access to the database! nt mhatrw Dec 2015 #127

Unfortunately, with lawyers involved, it's unlikely to transpire before iowa. Jarqui Dec 2015 #3

agree, which is why a completely independent audit is necessary. restorefreedom Dec 2015 #4

While they're at it in the computer department, Jarqui Dec 2015 #12

it is a disaster in the wings restorefreedom Dec 2015 #49

I hope your right, merrily. Nitram Dec 2015 #185

which campaign are you thinking is desperate? restorefreedom Dec 2015 #188

Given how closely related the vendor is to the Clintons and little Debbie, merrily Dec 2015 #23

yeah i worry about that too restorefreedom Dec 2015 #48

An active cover-up would be disastrous for Hillary AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #148

and the impeachment of bill clinton, as ridiculous as it was, restorefreedom Dec 2015 #158

The only reason DWS caved is Qutzupalotl Dec 2015 #6

The fact that she didn't have a legal leg to stand on Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #13

And yet, Debbie STILL has a paycheck Proserpina Dec 2015 #19

Understandable as that would Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #26

Well, then, you are far more "understanding" than I am Proserpina Dec 2015 #29

+1 davidpdx Dec 2015 #159

Sadly I agree Scootaloo Dec 2015 #92

Wasserman Schultz Reportedly Wanted to Paint Obama as ‘Anti-Woman,’ ‘Anti-Semitic’ If Ousted FlatBaroque Dec 2015 #31

so? Proserpina Dec 2015 #33

SO?? FlatBaroque Dec 2015 #41

That's incredible but good to know. appalachiablue Dec 2015 #99

So far, the ONLY wrongdoing that has been proven is the theft ecstatic Dec 2015 #7

+1 Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #10

A full independent audit will either support this or prove something else. artislife Dec 2015 #11

Nice. Le Taz Hot Dec 2015 #14

Great Post!!! LovingA2andMI Dec 2015 #20

Seriously....all this drama when the white house is at risk of going ecstatic Dec 2015 #15

I am a registered Democrat and I plan to caucus. artislife Dec 2015 #28

Don't you want to vote for the best candidate? ybbor Dec 2015 #37

Nobody is perfect. Any of the three would be light years better ecstatic Dec 2015 #51

Is that Fear no.5 I smell? reddread Dec 2015 #53

I find it interesting that Bernie supporters want a full audit and HRC supporters want to move on. winter is coming Dec 2015 #54

It really doesn't. Pragmatic dems look at the landscape and what's at stake ecstatic Dec 2015 #60

This saga isn't creating more division than already existed, it merely exposes what observant winter is coming Dec 2015 #67

The whole truth and nothing but the whole madokie Dec 2015 #123

Very well said, madam. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #145

Yoda is never wrong- riversedge Dec 2015 #34

riversedge, I've never watched "Star Wars". saidsimplesimon Dec 2015 #68

Wrong. Debbie clearly violated the contract with Sanders by seizing his info and not releasing it merrily Dec 2015 #38

Illegal activity or wrongdoing is a bar to a breach R B Garr Dec 2015 #86

+10 !! (NT) PosterChild Dec 2015 #104

Sorry, no. We also know the DNC violated their contract with the Sanders campaign. jeff47 Dec 2015 #40

Yes. and the accusation of trying to sink Bernie is so silly treestar Dec 2015 #45

You don't know that. Easy solution. More debates. Why not? Only ego. highprincipleswork Dec 2015 #52

HRC's numbers increase after every debate ecstatic Dec 2015 #62

Are you folks deliberately trying not to get it? highprincipleswork Dec 2015 #97

A fair playing field? Hum... PosterChild Dec 2015 #108

Then good kenfrequed Dec 2015 #110

Exactly. Why it's so hard to see that this would be in everyone's interest is beyond me. highprincipleswork Dec 2015 #133

Bernie would be saying the same things treestar Dec 2015 #94

Are you folks deliberately trying not to get it? highprincipleswork Dec 2015 #98

You're exaggerating the huge difference it would make treestar Dec 2015 #100

More debates and at better times would be more fair. highprincipleswork Dec 2015 #101

It helps all Democratic candidates kenfrequed Dec 2015 #157

Principles, did you ever consider the posibility that in completely good faith, Nitram Dec 2015 #182

So the DNC and DWS breaching the contract with the Sanders campaign on proper notice Dustlawyer Dec 2015 #50

I'm not worried about what will be discovered either ecstatic Dec 2015 #55

Sanders taking the DNC head-on is rather appealing to those of us who aren't partisan honks. frylock Dec 2015 #61

I'm partisan. Guilty as charged. ecstatic Dec 2015 #64

+1 Phlem Dec 2015 #121

he's fighting against a system that is supposed to suppport him but has come out to be obviously Javaman Dec 2015 #69

This is not a "let's burn everything down" attitude. Chef Eric Dec 2015 #138

So Much Bullshit so early in the day. Phlem Dec 2015 #66

Exactly workinclasszero Dec 2015 #84

1+ riversedge Dec 2015 #88

IF you are loking for Party Unity, bvar22 Dec 2015 #96

Exactly right. eom PosterChild Dec 2015 #103

'Scuze me? DWS is the one who invited the press. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #112

I don't think it matters anymore. Phlem Dec 2015 #118

You are absolutely 100% correct. Number23 Dec 2015 #141

The OP reads more like some kid interpreting a poem than an actual summary of facts. Buzz Clik Dec 2015 #8

Pretty much. CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #9

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #17

Thanks for the post. jalan48 Dec 2015 #18

One has to wonder, as well, why the Oppo Research Dept. is silent Proserpina Dec 2015 #22

Only future generations will have the luxury of looking at this through a microscope. Hiraeth Dec 2015 #24

How long will it take for an independent auditor to go through the records? shireen Dec 2015 #25

Time magazine seemed to take hours only. nt artislife Dec 2015 #30

Am I the only one who thinks this makes all Dems look bad? ShrimpPoboy Dec 2015 #32

Yes. The difference is, Bernie was not involved in the activities of his staffers. DWS and Hillary merrily Dec 2015 #39

Blame Debbie for that. She could have responded to this in any number of ways Nyan Dec 2015 #74

Yes, it makes Dems look bad, and the only way to get beyond it is to find out exactly what's winter is coming Dec 2015 #77

I doubt you are the only one. catnhatnh Dec 2015 #81

Yep, dpatbrown Dec 2015 #35

well, that's talking over the heads of the opposition, ain't it? stupidicus Dec 2015 #36

How about we use Occam's Razor? Arkana Dec 2015 #42

We know another thing for sure... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #90

Occam would also hasten to point out that the guy who poked around in the DNC negligence... lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #113

+1 Paka Dec 2015 #119

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #43

Sadly, both sides are spending money on lawyers CanonRay Dec 2015 #46

CanonRay, so true, see comment above.. saidsimplesimon Dec 2015 #70

thank you so much for that clear synopsis. rurallib Dec 2015 #47

There is the 2008 "data leakage" of Sen Obama's data to Sen Clintons campaign that LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #57

This lawyer (me) agrees with you. It will be historical. Divernan Dec 2015 #58

DWS's days are numbered. Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2015 #65

Concise. +1 nt LWolf Dec 2015 #71

K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #72

We have the Force riversedge Dec 2015 #78

DNC gets no money or support from me until DWS resigns... vi5 Dec 2015 #82

She should resign NOW or be FIRED!!! cascadiance Dec 2015 #134

Sorry, she only answers to the 1%. nm rhett o rick Dec 2015 #169

Interesting. rosesaylavee Dec 2015 #93

K & R AzDar Dec 2015 #95

Bernie's staffers STOLE DATA. Of course they were blocked temporarily, to stop them KittyWampus Dec 2015 #105

If Bernie is so guilty then why doesn't Hillary just expose them Phlem Dec 2015 #120

Link to that theft please. cui bono Dec 2015 #130

here Nitram Dec 2015 #167

Don't see it there. Can you quote where it says there was theft? cui bono Dec 2015 #193

I'm so old... Fumesucker Dec 2015 #149

K&R Paka Dec 2015 #111

:) Phlem Dec 2015 #122

R! (doesn't need any kicks) Babel_17 Dec 2015 #126

Maybe with this…. zentrum Dec 2015 #132

Soooooo glad Democratic Party is putting all its chips in the Clinton basket... good government whereisjustice Dec 2015 #136

That is how I see it. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #143

Bernie Sanders Apologizes to Hillary Clinton for Stealing Voter Data. stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #150

What we are witnessing here is the last attempts of a dieing campaign trying to remain relevant. upaloopa Dec 2015 #155

That's for sure. Hillary's campaign has admitted, after the debate 'we could lose this' in their sabrina 1 Dec 2015 #163

history won't likely remember the political deflections (like this one) bigtree Dec 2015 #160

DWS has surely met her match in Sanders. She should have listened when he warned people not to sabrina 1 Dec 2015 #162

DWS and HRC are driving a big wedge between the Progressive and Conservative Wings rhett o rick Dec 2015 #170