2016 Postmortem

Duval

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69. They won't have to pay me and my husband to volunteer.

Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:12 PM

Dec 2015

This election is too important and we're not giving up. Sanders can beat any Republican, according to polls (I know..."polls&quot . But I understand what you mean. It will take money to GOTV. More small donations? We have to try whatever we can come up with.

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Not healthy for a Party to embrace only one candidate. No room for us there now. [View all] madfloridian Dec 2015 OP

I agree, mad, but I think we need to be looking at all three candidates, at least. MH1 Dec 2015 #1

Of course all 3 candidates...goes without saying. madfloridian Dec 2015 #2

Of course! :) MH1 Dec 2015 #4

I agree -- except on one point Armstead Dec 2015 #3

True - you got that right! I was referring to 98% of the 2% allotted to discussing Dems. nt. MH1 Dec 2015 #5

Pathetic, isn't it? madfloridian Dec 2015 #6

Very. But they are two separate issues - MH1 Dec 2015 #11

But they're related nxylas Dec 2015 #38

It's unbelievable that debate date was allowed to stand. madfloridian Dec 2015 #42

OP says "no room for us" SCantiGOP Dec 2015 #67

Yeah. Funny how the "liberal media" does that and the GOP still whines mountain grammy Dec 2015 #8

Hardly what your specific point, Grammy (and I agree!), Hortensis Dec 2015 #159

I only hope the GOP will collapse in my lifetime. mountain grammy Dec 2015 #165

Oh, me, too! Whether collapse or Hortensis Dec 2015 #166

DWS Should Either Resign Or Be Fired Immediately For.... global1 Dec 2015 #7

Who could fire DWS? rurallib Dec 2015 #14

Obama has to fire her. in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #32

Thanks - that's what I thought rurallib Dec 2015 #35

+1 daleanime Dec 2015 #40

And he won't. madfloridian Dec 2015 #85

No he won't. in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #101

Traditionally party chairpeople serve at the pleasure of the president when the president totodeinhere Dec 2015 #120

Here's the petition cannabis_flower Dec 2015 #147

The DNC chair does not really get "fired." DFW Dec 2015 #150

Excellent observation, DFW. Raine1967 Dec 2015 #158

DWS - You're Fired! Ferd Berfel Dec 2015 #28

"The basic purpose of political parties is to nominate Hortensis Dec 2015 #89

Good post! You said it better than I could. PBass Dec 2015 #118

So "outside" he's not even a Democrat. I'm glad we ARE the true Hortensis Dec 2015 #122

Bernie Is The Real Democrat Yallow Dec 2015 #132

Real Democrats don't allow their people to steal from a victim ... Tortmaster Dec 2015 #143

How about election theft? Fuddnik Dec 2015 #144

Tortmaster, let's be fair. Hortensis Dec 2015 #160

I'm sure that Senator Sanders didn't know the ... Tortmaster Dec 2015 #162

Nonsense, Yallow. BTW, the far right specializes in Hortensis Dec 2015 #155

It's a rigged system Armstead Dec 2015 #154

In a rational world, yes. nt SusanCalvin Dec 2015 #29

If she is not fired and is permitted MissDeeds Dec 2015 #124

Many Hillary supporters don't want a progressive Democratic Party. stillwaiting Dec 2015 #9

Well said. tecelote Dec 2015 #10

Sadly, Some HRC Supporters Appear To Want To Live Under The Autocratic Rule Of cantbeserious Dec 2015 #19

Maybe the same economic policies as Obama sorechasm Dec 2015 #43

That Sad Fact Only Reinforces The Tragic Outcome Awaiting All With A HRC Presidency cantbeserious Dec 2015 #45

Happy with crumbs Jackilope Dec 2015 #46

All Too True - Victims Willing To Accept Table Scraps - Instead Of Warriors Battling The 1% cantbeserious Dec 2015 #48

Want to know where the "Reagan Democrats" went? bvar22 Dec 2015 #90

Roger That On All Accounts And Particulars cantbeserious Dec 2015 #91

..... madfloridian Dec 2015 #92

And I suspect that those who are happy with it zeemike Dec 2015 #21

They really shouldn't worry. Even when truly progressive principles are in place there is still stillwaiting Dec 2015 #22

12/hr is plenty! Min wage workers are just too damn greedy! nt delrem Dec 2015 #49

Aiming low before negotiations start is the hallmark of spineless democrats. sorechasm Dec 2015 #107

It isn't spinelessness. It's their heart and soul. delrem Dec 2015 #137

In the previous debate, sammythecat Dec 2015 #138

Good lord! The greedy working poor? This is stupid. Ed Suspicious Dec 2015 #125

Well, it isn't MY idea! I'm not the damn candidate in question! delrem Dec 2015 #136

That sums it up. Plucketeer Dec 2015 #30

I noticed that also. We both know that by the time this 12 dollar hour wage is implimented... BlueJazz Dec 2015 #71

Yeah, her proposal probably Plucketeer Dec 2015 #77

And She Makes $100,000 An Hour Yallow Dec 2015 #133

And she thinks she's "dead broke" jfern Dec 2015 #140

No, She "Was" Dead Broke Yallow Dec 2015 #151

I'll bet it wasn't the sort of "broke" I remember Plucketeer Dec 2015 #153

An excellent synopsis! n/t gregcrawford Dec 2015 #50

yep. Many of them benefit from the status quo or haven't been harmed by it (yet). nt antigop Dec 2015 #73

Very good post. madfloridian Dec 2015 #88

wish i could rec this post. i have an add, tho... nashville_brook Dec 2015 #95

good points - nt Locrian Dec 2015 #110

Third Way would rather have Republicans in office Zorra Dec 2015 #164

The DNC DLC Third Way Establishment Is Apoplectic About A Bernie Presidency - The Panic Is Theirs cantbeserious Dec 2015 #12

She was referring specifically to the data breach issue. BlueCheese Dec 2015 #13

I'm sorry, but the use of the word was a serious thing. madfloridian Dec 2015 #15

If its just bluster she's got not a thing to worry about JackInGreen Dec 2015 #17

Good point. madfloridian Dec 2015 #26

Huh Dem2 Dec 2015 #20

which I suppose is why they backed down and restored his access to his data magical thyme Dec 2015 #23

People like Debbie FlatBaroque Dec 2015 #16

The Democratic Party has turned it's head away from a chance to grow stronger..... daleanime Dec 2015 #18

I FEAR For America... As Jimmy Carter Has Already Said ChiciB1 Dec 2015 #24

^^^ This ^^^ cantbeserious Dec 2015 #25

FOR SURE & SO TRUE! n/t ChiciB1 Dec 2015 #27

There are three candidates, not one, and they're all (for now) on the ballots for the primaries..... George II Dec 2015 #31

You can't spin away the use of the word "bluster" in any context. madfloridian Dec 2015 #34

I saw her statement, using the word "bluster" was extremely benign considering.... George II Dec 2015 #44

I am sorry, but we will never agree. madfloridian Dec 2015 #51

That makes two of us, madfloridian. Duval Dec 2015 #63

.... Phlem Dec 2015 #127

DWS Exposed This Issue to the Press First. It Should Have Been an Internal Matter. Justina For Justice Dec 2015 #139

That's after DWS went straight to the media to damage Bernie's reputation... madfloridian Dec 2015 #163

........ daleanime Dec 2015 #41

Frankly-There hasn't Been Room fredamae Dec 2015 #33

You are right. madfloridian Dec 2015 #100

You brought up an issue I want to ask a question about. jwirr Dec 2015 #121

Center Right Dems Turned fredamae Dec 2015 #152

Thank you. And yes, it does sound familiar. THIS time we jwirr Dec 2015 #161

Debbie WS stands for Gumboot Dec 2015 #36

"Debbie Does Wall Street" is probably more apt for a corporate whore. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #128

Some delicate flower alerted on this. Jury results went 1-6. Electric Monk Dec 2015 #129

I figured it would be. Hillary folk love what DWS is doing. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #130

Here's more context about the word bluster, which was insulting to Bernie. No excuses for it. madfloridian Dec 2015 #37

No repeat of '08. They spent decades building HRC up, only to see her lose from below. Not again leveymg Dec 2015 #39

They won't have to pay me and my husband to volunteer. Duval Dec 2015 #69

But, I think, it is this very suppression that is bringing out the fight in we lefties. Gmak Dec 2015 #109

Democracy is the opportunity to hear all speak. oldandhappy Dec 2015 #47

As a Bernie supporter, I feel the Democratic Party doesn't want me CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #52

^^^ This ^^^ cantbeserious Dec 2015 #58

How sad to feel unwanted treestar Dec 2015 #60

What's sad is the Democratic party is not democratic anymore. CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #65

I don't get that much hatred for another Democrat treestar Dec 2015 #66

You keep putting words in my mouth so I consider this CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #70

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #53

Cull not, lest you be culled. Downwinder Dec 2015 #54

..... madfloridian Dec 2015 #59

Kick !! FloriTexan Dec 2015 #55

Very good point. madfloridian Dec 2015 #108

And many of us left the party because of corruption... polichick Dec 2015 #56

Soviet, PRC style elections - preying on the sentiment of free choice, while rigging the outcome whereisjustice Dec 2015 #57

K and R. isn't she supposed to...at minimum... *pretend* to be impartial? Smarmie Doofus Dec 2015 #61

A Florida Swamp. Fuddnik Dec 2015 #145

K N R Faux pas Dec 2015 #62

Excellent analysis angrychair Dec 2015 #64

Thank you. madfloridian Dec 2015 #78

The most important vote is the Democratic primary because all of the Republicans are idiots. TryLogic Dec 2015 #79

It's the one behind the curtains.. madfloridian Dec 2015 #103

I think to DWS, HRC, the DNC, and DLC we are viewed as threatening as the GOP. nt Snotcicles Dec 2015 #68

K&R from another lifetime member. Duval Dec 2015 #72

.... madfloridian Dec 2015 #76

there hasn't been room for us for some time. nt antigop Dec 2015 #74

Yes, I know. madfloridian Dec 2015 #75

You're more even handed than me. Where you say "unhealthy" I say "fucking intolerable". n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2015 #80

Thinking the same madfloridian Dec 2015 #94

As the Texas Democratic Party slid into obscurity, Downwinder Dec 2015 #81

That sounds just about like our Florida party leaders. madfloridian Dec 2015 #83

A Democratic candidate has not won an election Downwinder Dec 2015 #86

Dems in the Florida legislature are rare indeed. madfloridian Dec 2015 #87

but if you don't disenchant your voters, who else can you blame when you lose? MisterP Dec 2015 #84

speaking of the Texas Democratic Party...check this out... antigop Dec 2015 #96

I don't know. Downwinder Dec 2015 #104

the point was the bumper stickers were printed up some time ago. antigop Dec 2015 #105

Point noted and considered. Downwinder Dec 2015 #106

note the use of "bluster"--they STILL think it's a remake of Dean or Edwards, just another MisterP Dec 2015 #82

Freedom only for the members of the government, only for the members of the Party - Tierra_y_Libertad Dec 2015 #93

The Democratic Party establishment has made it clear that Maedhros Dec 2015 #97

they do want our financial contributions. nt antigop Dec 2015 #98

so, mad, whatcha gonna do about it? Hmmm? nt antigop Dec 2015 #99

bye-bye dlwickham Dec 2015 #102

Then...beat her Tarc Dec 2015 #111

Wasserman's not Clinton. She's supposed to be IMPARTIAL. Smarmie Doofus Dec 2015 #114

If Sanders wants all the benefits of the Democratic Party... Tarc Dec 2015 #116

If Sanders is not considered a Democrat, then neither am I. madfloridian Dec 2015 #117

The party does so at its' own peril. If Bernie isn't the nominee, I likely will have to silvershadow Dec 2015 #112

Problem with that is.... we ALL suffer the consequences. Smarmie Doofus Dec 2015 #115

Just the reality of it. Those who weren't active politically may suddenly find themselves in a silvershadow Dec 2015 #135

Kick and R BeanMusical Dec 2015 #113

I know it Xmas - but fuck you Debbie. 840high Dec 2015 #119

if it is a primary against a sitting president loyalsister Dec 2015 #123

Interesting insight, loyalsister. senz Dec 2015 #131

I think mayor 1% made that obvious years ago tech3149 Dec 2015 #126

the swooner mentality is in full force Skittles Dec 2015 #134

The public apology and equally publc acceptance thereof may have been part of the settlement. merrily Dec 2015 #141

K&R from another Bernie supporter who is a life-long Democrat. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #142

Thank you for the thoughtful piece as always emsimon33 Dec 2015 #146

Is '' Bluster'' code for ''Socialist Rhetoric''? Octafish Dec 2015 #148

...... madfloridian Dec 2015 #156

I realize we're in a post-fact era... uberblonde Dec 2015 #149

"post-fact era"? madfloridian Dec 2015 #157