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Hepburn

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40. She lost that debate when she voted YES on the IWR.

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 10:21 PM

Dec 2015

And...she is not doing well this evening in that the hawk is just beating it wings to fly our of her mouth...and she looks like she is fighting it.

JMHO

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Democratic Debate Thread 2 [View all] longship Dec 2015 OP

These guys, all of them, make me feel more hopeful for the country. nolabear Dec 2015 #1

They are much more serious. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #2

You have it, my good friend. nt longship Dec 2015 #5

I think that it is the idea. longship Dec 2015 #3

How any American could see these 3 candidates zappaman Dec 2015 #4

Or not vote for our nominee. MoonRiver Dec 2015 #6

Both Bernie and Hillary know this. I hope the supporters of both do too. nolabear Dec 2015 #15

Hope the vast majority do. MoonRiver Dec 2015 #22

I wish more Americans were getting to see these three. bullwinkle428 Dec 2015 #14

THAT'S the problem, not many people will see it. nc4bo Dec 2015 #17

You Can Thank DWS/DNC For That...nt global1 Dec 2015 #25

No, you can thank the fact that we have adults on our side. zappaman Dec 2015 #145

Maybe because we see how their supporters are artislife Dec 2015 #137

Sanders is right to want to answer the same question. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #7

I agree still_one Dec 2015 #10

Agreed... TCJ70 Dec 2015 #11

lol Renew Deal Dec 2015 #19

I agree, just posted the same thing. MH1 Dec 2015 #21

yep questionseverything Dec 2015 #24

How do we distinguish between these candidates? LittleBlue Dec 2015 #8

I think it's because... TCJ70 Dec 2015 #12

No. It's because they're all somewhat in agreement and always have been. nolabear Dec 2015 #27

You should vote for the candidate with executive experience elleng Dec 2015 #18

Bernie also has executive experience as mayor of Burlington Vt. JDPriestly Dec 2015 #139

moderaters trying to keep bernie from talking Robbins Dec 2015 #9

Then he will have to try to take some control from them in a positive way. Not easy, but doable still_one Dec 2015 #20

He's doing plenty of talking--and yelling. Probably should use a stopwatch to see how much time... Hekate Dec 2015 #61

Why not let each candidate answer each question? MH1 Dec 2015 #13

Agreed - You Beat Me To That Point.... global1 Dec 2015 #32

Sanders calls for a secterian war in the middle east. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #16

Bernie calling out S.A. and Qatar. Wish he'd go even further and tell them bullwinkle428 Dec 2015 #23

They all have to be somewhat careful. Unlike the republicans, ya can't say we are going to bomb still_one Dec 2015 #29

I just think it is a damn shame that Tipperary Dec 2015 #54

I loved the quote, which is here... pacalo Dec 2015 #36

Now we get to some meat. longship Dec 2015 #26

They asked Hillary a good question about what happens if ground troops are needed. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #28

Even w/ the crap job the ABC moderators are doing PghTiny Dec 2015 #30

i think all the candidates are not getting restorefreedom Dec 2015 #34

Hillary taking the other candidates to school firebrand80 Dec 2015 #31

O'Malley: "Make president of USAID a cabinet member." Renew Deal Dec 2015 #33

I know I am biased, but anyone else think Hillary is winning the debate on foreign policy so far? nt ProudToBeLiberal Dec 2015 #35

She lost that debate when she voted YES on the IWR. Hepburn Dec 2015 #40

They were largely agreeing, but it seems like shes getting more time than the other two. bobbobbins01 Dec 2015 #44

That was the topper...not good. I agree. Hepburn Dec 2015 #50

This is an adult debate Zorro Dec 2015 #37

Is this a debate xloadiex Dec 2015 #38

Right, glad you noticed. elleng Dec 2015 #43

You must be watching a different debate. Tipperary Dec 2015 #45

These Isis strategies don't make any sense. LittleBlue Dec 2015 #39

Hillary asked if we should shoot down Syrian and Russian planes in no fly zone. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #41

Oh boy! No fly zone! Shared by Russia. nt longship Dec 2015 #42

Trump will personally monitor compliance denem Dec 2015 #55

Hillary's no-fly zone answer was not very good... Punkingal Dec 2015 #46

No ones is including the republicans Renew Deal Dec 2015 #48

What foreign powers are flying in Syris other than the US and Russia JDPriestly Dec 2015 #142

Sanders answer about "broad coalitions" is no better than anyone else. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #47

Hillary has a good answer about motivation of non-ISIS fighters Renew Deal Dec 2015 #51

I hate this debate Robbins Dec 2015 #49

And we already know who "won" the debate before it even started Matariki Dec 2015 #53

Someone pointed out that Hillary gets to answer every question, but the other two don't. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #57

Well Bernie keeps agreeing with Hillary. MoonRiver Dec 2015 #69

No, it's about foreign policy. She's the best qualified at that. nolabear Dec 2015 #77

Yes, more people have died under policies she agreed with. artislife Dec 2015 #140

Democratic answers are so much more thoughtful than the republicans Renew Deal Dec 2015 #52

MOM pulled the youth card! "May I respond from a different generation?" nt valerief Dec 2015 #56

Wow ageism from O'Malley shawn703 Dec 2015 #58

Pissed off a few in the crowd. bullwinkle428 Dec 2015 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author shawn703 Dec 2015 #80

Pointing out the difference between history and the contemporary situation is not ageism. elleng Dec 2015 #102

Honestly, mics should be turned off if it isn't one's turn or if they go over time. demmiblue Dec 2015 #59

They are doing pretty good on that. nt longship Dec 2015 #73

Bernie, just admit you don't know WTF you're talking about firebrand80 Dec 2015 #60

Spoken Like A True Third Way Member cantbeserious Dec 2015 #67

*high five* firebrand80 Dec 2015 #71

That Post Was Not An Affirmation - This Citizen Would Be Ashamed To Affiliate With The Third Way cantbeserious Dec 2015 #78

*high five* firebrand80 Dec 2015 #89

A Firm No From This Citizen cantbeserious Dec 2015 #100

O'Malley just got groans for an old person joke Renew Deal Dec 2015 #62

Yeah that was bad. El Supremo Dec 2015 #72

Well deserved if you ask me n/t TexasBushwhacker Dec 2015 #82

I agree Renew Deal Dec 2015 #91

Too bad this is on Saturday before Christmas. nt longship Dec 2015 #63

Talk about disrespectful moderators! Gregorian Dec 2015 #64

O'Malley is dead right LittleBlue Dec 2015 #65

Good! elleng Dec 2015 #75

O'Malley... oh my! demmiblue Dec 2015 #68

clinton just claimed credit for the UN resolution on Syria karynnj Dec 2015 #70

Yes, she was under fire during this discussion. Hepburn Dec 2015 #84

lol karynnj Dec 2015 #116

I am not watching the debates, but if that is the case, Bernie and or Martin should call that out still_one Dec 2015 #86

the format works against that karynnj Dec 2015 #106

Clinton: "If the US doesn't lead, there is not another leader. There is a vacuum." Renew Deal Dec 2015 #74

Sanders: "US is not the policeman of the world." Renew Deal Dec 2015 #79

Renew Deal, you warm my black heart. ;-) nt longship Dec 2015 #93

lol. Thanks Renew Deal Dec 2015 #96

O'Malley Is Starting To Get On My Nerves.... global1 Dec 2015 #76

He's addressing foreign policy issues. elleng Dec 2015 #87

Give him a break firebrand80 Dec 2015 #94

I've no problem with him trying to contrast himself to the other candidates LittleBlue Dec 2015 #107

He is always very forced Renew Deal Dec 2015 #121

U.S. is NOT the policemen of the world. Neocons hate nc4bo Dec 2015 #81

I agree, the U.S. should NOT be policemen of the world still_one Dec 2015 #97

I agree too TexasBushwhacker Dec 2015 #120

There are no simple solutions, but it is in Iran's interest sure not to let ISIS expand too much. still_one Dec 2015 #127

I agree about energy TexasBushwhacker Dec 2015 #138

because that is the real solution still_one Dec 2015 #141

Yay, we are moving to the economy finally. nt ProudToBeLiberal Dec 2015 #83

du[;ocate ProudToBeLiberal Dec 2015 #115

Fundamental dispute about Syria between Hillary and Bernie... Renew Deal Dec 2015 #85

I don't think there is any easy answer on this one still_one Dec 2015 #103

I am not sure I can agree with the hawkish aproch the HRC is presenting awake Dec 2015 #108

It's a more serious debate than the GOP one NYCButterfinger Dec 2015 #88

It is a great debate... On the Saturday night before Christmas!!! longship Dec 2015 #104

Probably more watching the rain deer show NYCButterfinger Dec 2015 #134

HRC blames Assad for ISIL. Not Bush's invasion of Iraq. MH1 Dec 2015 #90

For territorial gains... Renew Deal Dec 2015 #95

I am still shaking my head on that one. Hepburn Dec 2015 #98

She is defending Obama's "Assad must go" during her SoS tenure. MH1 Dec 2015 #112

Hillary, Isis wasn't created by Assad LittleBlue Dec 2015 #92

well,then the other candidates should call her on that. That is what is supposed to happen during still_one Dec 2015 #109

She gets every question.... Punkingal Dec 2015 #99

yup. but i did not expect anything different. nt restorefreedom Dec 2015 #101

Yeah, but she gets most of the answers wrong... Hepburn Dec 2015 #110

I am not watching the debate, but regardless, lets say your assessment is right on. Are the other still_one Dec 2015 #118

Sanders complained once about not being able to answer one. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #122

Then he has to interject, even if it is very brief. Those are opportunities still_one Dec 2015 #129

Why take their time to point out her obvious mistakes. Hepburn Dec 2015 #126

Strategically if there is a glaring misstatement, and that isn't pointed out, it is a lost still_one Dec 2015 #135

They try....they get reminded of the rules every time. Punkingal Dec 2015 #147

OFFS. nolabear Dec 2015 #117

I'd be curious if there is a time amount list of how much each person got to speak. EndElectoral Dec 2015 #124

Even the commercial breaks are like NFL breaks. pangaia Dec 2015 #105

They are going to start the debate without Hillary there. Renew Deal Dec 2015 #111

LOL! It takes girls longer... nolabear Dec 2015 #113

Sexist. But yeah, she set out to make an entrance JimDandy Dec 2015 #123

No, really! It does! I am one! And that's just silly about making an entrance. nolabear Dec 2015 #128

As usual I agree with Bernie mvd Dec 2015 #114

Sanders: Tax on Wall St. speculation to make public college free Renew Deal Dec 2015 #119

Starting a new thread. longship Dec 2015 #125

Yes - terrorism is bad bla bla bla SoLeftIAmRight Dec 2015 #130

Hillary is doing extremely well Kentonio Dec 2015 #131

Hillary is kicking ass! MADem Dec 2015 #132

Sanders: Corporate America will not like me and Wall St. will like me even less Renew Deal Dec 2015 #133

That is true, but it is a popular sound bite that does resonate with many workers still_one Dec 2015 #136

Bernie is very clear Rosa Luxemburg Dec 2015 #143

Hillary bulldozes her way through time that is not hers! She defies the moderator too and... ChisolmTrailDem Dec 2015 #144

All they are talking about is Hillary as if the other two bkkyosemite Dec 2015 #146