Endorsements matter? As in corporate and establishment insiders who are willing to cheat and lie? (Reply #59)

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Fri Dec 18, 2015, 03:16 PM

mhatrw (10,786 posts)

59. Endorsements matter? As in corporate and establishment insiders who are willing to cheat and lie?

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You know, like the DNC and the Clinton operative who made the software the DNC forces all the competing campaigns to use?

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73 replies	Author	Time	Post
Does anyone here actually believe that DNClinton does not have full access rights to Sanders' data? [View all]	mhatrw	Dec 2015	OP
Knowing what I know about software, I bet all 3 campaigns had cross access to all data for that time	phleshdef	Dec 2015	#1
It was all trackable so if anyone ever accesses anything there's a record.	moobu2	Dec 2015	#6
Bernie doesn't NEED to lie about anything.	phleshdef	Dec 2015	#13
Not if you use the chance to acess and copy my very expensive personal information	moobu2	Dec 2015	#22
I guarantee if your emails showed up in my inbox and I read them, you couldn't do anything to me.	phleshdef	Dec 2015	#29
That's not the analogy...	brooklynite	Dec 2015	#50
from what I understand	d_r	Dec 2015	#60
For one, I'm not just making an analogy, I'm explaining exactly the logical thing that happened.	phleshdef	Dec 2015	#61
No...	Agschmid	Dec 2015	#27
But who controls the access???	UglyGreed	Dec 2015	#19
....	questionseverything	Dec 2015	#23
Winner, winner	UglyGreed	Dec 2015	#24
Nothing to see here	Mnpaul	Dec 2015	#70
Yeah lets check the trail Bernies	workinclasszero	Dec 2015	#28
You know nothing about software. Nothing is "trackable" when you have root permission. nt	mhatrw	Dec 2015	#41
This long-time IT veteran says you're exactly correct.	Scuba	Dec 2015	#66
And who has the tracking log? N/t	DVRacer	Dec 2015	#73
The DWS/DNC/Hillary Camp is one and the same	NowSam	Dec 2015	#2
All access to the data is trackable so no Hillary does not have access.	moobu2	Dec 2015	#3
Tracked by whom?	arcane1	Dec 2015	#5
Well exactly	Rosa Luxemburg	Dec 2015	#67
when the founder of the 3rd party vendor was Clinton's 2008 IT director?	Jarqui	Dec 2015	#10
Wasn't this also the firm that was responsible for Clinton's private email?	EndElectoral	Dec 2015	#16
Holy moly!	Rosa Luxemburg	Dec 2015	#69
You don't actually know that, because a complete audit has not been run.	jeff47	Dec 2015	#12
You don't understand the difference between having access and using access apparently.	phleshdef	Dec 2015	#14
You know nothing about software. Nothing is "trackable" when you have root permission. nt	mhatrw	Dec 2015	#40
Just make it up as you go. Not a bit to back up what you say.	NCTraveler	Dec 2015	#4
DWS/DNC works for Clinton. The vendor hired by DWS/DNC worked for Clinton.	mhatrw	Dec 2015	#42
Keeps getting better and better.	NCTraveler	Dec 2015	#48
Endorsements matter? As in corporate and establishment insiders who are willing to cheat and lie?	mhatrw	Dec 2015	#59
Are your WMDs right next to your massive tinfoil supply?	Blue_Adept	Dec 2015	#7
Is that what Hillary said when she voted to invade Iraq? nt	mhatrw	Dec 2015	#44
Great snark! +1 n/t	Hepburn	Dec 2015	#64
They all had access...	Happenstance24	Dec 2015	#8
^^^ This. Though "stolen" is not an accurate term.	phleshdef	Dec 2015	#15
Would someone who wanted to steal data always tell they were taking data? We need an audit.	EndElectoral	Dec 2015	#20
I've gotten into the habit of putting low-post-count posters who show up to bash Sanders	Maedhros	Dec 2015	#43
Creating for divisiveness on DU. Not needed.	riversedge	Dec 2015	#9
Just because the vendor is owned by someone who's worked closely with the Clintons	jeff47	Dec 2015	#11
Vendor works on most campaigns, even Obama's.	JaneyVee	Dec 2015	#21
....	questionseverything	Dec 2015	#26
The vendor is Clinton's go to IT person. nt	mhatrw	Dec 2015	#46
Tin Foil hats all around!	VanillaRhapsody	Dec 2015	#32
Conspiracy!	DanTex	Dec 2015	#17
Yes, I believe Hillary is running a great campaign.	JaneyVee	Dec 2015	#18
Of course they did and they had it in October when Bernie's campaign alerted the DNC.	Uncle Joe	Dec 2015	#25
got proof of that?	VanillaRhapsody	Dec 2015	#31
Just logic, if the firewall is down it goes both ways	Uncle Joe	Dec 2015	#35
that won't hold water dude..its theoretical	VanillaRhapsody	Dec 2015	#36
The question in the OP was "access" not download, don't be moving the goal posts.	Uncle Joe	Dec 2015	#37
Now its about Downloading them huh?	VanillaRhapsody	Dec 2015	#56
Did you not read your own post #36, you used the term "downloading" that's what I was	Uncle Joe	Dec 2015	#57
Yes...if you open a document on your computer...	VanillaRhapsody	Dec 2015	#58
Accessing it....and downloading and saving it....	VanillaRhapsody	Dec 2015	#30
...	SidDithers	Dec 2015	#33
EXACTLY!	VanillaRhapsody	Dec 2015	#34
This is getting more and more entertaining	treestar	Dec 2015	#39
Kicketty Kickin'	Faux pas	Dec 2015	#38
Well, of course we're going to believe whatever assists us in rationalizing	LanternWaste	Dec 2015	#45
TOS: Don't go overboard with the crazy talk.	brooklynite	Dec 2015	#47
Yes, but this is Bernie Underground	Blue_Adept	Dec 2015	#52
We have two camps on this thread. People who know a duck when they see it walk & hear it quack	mhatrw	Dec 2015	#49
Does anyone not believe that Sander's campaign just got caught stealing data? nt	Nitram	Dec 2015	#51
You can see that it's an almost 50/50 split	Blue_Adept	Dec 2015	#53
Which means 50% accept the facts and 50% are in denial. nt	Nitram	Dec 2015	#54
Pretty much	Blue_Adept	Dec 2015	#55
I just posted an OP with some details regarding this if anyones interested.	bobbobbins01	Dec 2015	#62
Give us a link, please.	mhatrw	Dec 2015	#65
I have NO doubt that DWS would do ANYTHING or HRC's coronation. n/t	Hepburn	Dec 2015	#63
They definitely had the access during the 40 minute window.	MohRokTah	Dec 2015	#68
Don't you usually need evidence before you make big claims, or even little claims?	BlueCheese	Dec 2015	#71
LOL. A Clinton staffer wrote the program and has full unfettered access to the database! nt	mhatrw	Dec 2015	#72

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