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In reply to the discussion: How many of you support Sanders' plan to raise the payroll tax on *everybody* to fund his platform? [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)134. That small hike will probably be most of the pay raise. And then the people will be in a higher
bracket, so they'll pay more income tax.
Horrible idea. The employers should pay it. They're paying it anyway, if it's IN THE PAYROLL.
And if the employer pays it, he can deduct for it, while the employee isn't taxed at a higher rate for money he isn't getting.
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How many of you support Sanders' plan to raise the payroll tax on *everybody* to fund his platform? [View all]
hill2016
Nov 2015
OP
I pay $60 a paycheck for high deductible crap insurance where I work
iwillalwayswonderwhy
Nov 2015
#4
Ya got that right! My insurance is better but I still had to fork over about three large
brewens
Nov 2015
#93
Yep, we have to pay $5,000 out of pocket before our insurance kicks in each year
AgingAmerican
Nov 2015
#120
Then if it takes cost off of employers, some at least, mine would pretty much have to
brewens
Nov 2015
#125
Closing Corporate tax loopholes, ending welfare for the rich, for Wall St. and the MIC
99th_Monkey
Nov 2015
#18
Europeans with their single payer systems pay less for healthcare than we do.
JDPriestly
Nov 2015
#80
This payroll tax is not for "health care." It's for family and medical leave. Watch the video. nt
MADem
Nov 2015
#102
I know. The OP suggested a hike in payroll taxes. If you raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour,
JDPriestly
Nov 2015
#127
That small hike will probably be most of the pay raise. And then the people will be in a higher
MADem
Nov 2015
#134
But the OP is about Sander's platform, the Family Leave Act is Gillibrand's bill, Bernie is just one
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2015
#158
To my knowledge, the only program that will increase the payroll tax is paid family/medical leave
HerbChestnut
Nov 2015
#6
The OP and many others are unable to recognize Democratic legislation when they see it.
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2015
#36
Please post that as an OP for a new thread. Great post. Wonderful information.
JDPriestly
Nov 2015
#84
Show me a liberal who doesn't support it, and I'll show you someone who isn't a liberal.
DisgustipatedinCA
Nov 2015
#14
Yes it is worth $1.40/week from each of us so new mothers and fathers can bond with their children
Vincardog
Nov 2015
#19
Yes, I believe family leave should be funded by taxpayers. Otherwise employers are incentivized
femmedem
Nov 2015
#26
yeah, i wouldn't hold my breath. true or not, it messes with the narrative.nt
restorefreedom
Nov 2015
#37
No, it won't. Rich people do not get paychecks, and this is a proposed PAYROLL TAX.
MADem
Nov 2015
#107
support. most will get far more back in savings than what they put in. nt
restorefreedom
Nov 2015
#31
I do. Taxes are what we pay for civilized society. Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Nov 2015
#33
I suppose it's Supply Side Hillary now eh? Clinton the Progressive was so "last week"
Armstead
Nov 2015
#35
CA has a simple sales tax, not a Value Added Tax. Very different, no State has a VAT.
Bluenorthwest
Nov 2015
#157
If we are going to do it, everbody should pay their fair share....even me.
Agnosticsherbet
Nov 2015
#42
We now pay per capita about TWICE as much for health care as do others in the world who have
JDPriestly
Nov 2015
#85
I already have a lot in various privately funded deductions. I would certainly agree with
Douglas Carpenter
Nov 2015
#43
Oddly enough, I prefer to pay $5k in taxes instead of $10k in insurance premiums/deductible.
jeff47
Nov 2015
#46
yeah, my monthly for healthcare is now $6000 for myself and Mrs. The proposed tax hike
Doctor_J
Nov 2015
#48
how many of you Clinton supporters are willing to have 30 million remain without healthcare,
Doctor_J
Nov 2015
#47
I will pay an extra 2% if it leads to everyone getting equal access to good health care
Scootaloo
Nov 2015
#58
I would have when I was working. I am sure the last tax cut I got was $100 a month
LiberalArkie
Nov 2015
#61
It's time to exorcise ourselves of voodoo economics and failed trickle down theory
deutsey
Nov 2015
#65
Did even listen to the video you posted? It's a FANTASTIC PRO-Bernie piece! Thanks!!!
cui bono
Nov 2015
#72
Well, it would be a hell of a lot cheaper to be taxed to pay for REAL universal healthcare, rather
kath
Nov 2015
#75
Count me in. I will happily pay more to have a better educated, healthy, inclusive and
Live and Learn
Nov 2015
#81
Does his platform eliminate other costs I currently experience? Does it raise my pay?
lumberjack_jeff
Nov 2015
#82
by now even the exurbs would rather have some taxes on the middle class than not HAVE a middle
MisterP
Nov 2015
#89
The problem with DU polls is they are not representative of Dems, let alone the country. nt
SunSeeker
Nov 2015
#94
tax me 60% and i'll be happy not paying for walmart (HRC) ppl. she left to the sharks.
juxtaposed
Nov 2015
#135
Gladly. And I'll gladly pay higher taxes to enable healthcare for everyone, free college tuition
Kip Humphrey
Nov 2015
#136
Let's see, endless Healthcare for All vs. endless Warfare for All. Both will require higher taxes.
sorechasm
Nov 2015
#160
A middle class tax increase is death in a general election. Even if he goes back on it between now
stevenleser
Nov 2015
#161