2016 Postmortem

Rosa Luxemburg

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27. the av number of procedures goes down doesn't it?

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Sat Nov 21, 2015, 05:03 PM

Nov 2015

In a public health system unnecessary procedures are not performed. Here in the USA doctors want to do more procedures to make money?

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The US spends $3 trillion a year on health care. How much goes to health insurance companies? [View all] hill2016 Nov 2015 OP

Another fail Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #1

most of the health care expenditure are on hill2016 Nov 2015 #2

All of those you list TM99 Nov 2015 #3

and guess how much hill2016 Nov 2015 #4

And Hillary is so much better Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #7

the drug companies fear Hillary hill2016 Nov 2015 #11

What is her plan? Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #14

here you go hill2016 Nov 2015 #18

Oooh.. identical to Bernie except for a few things I_AM_SAM Nov 2015 #25

Hillary has been fighting for healthcare hill2016 Nov 2015 #26

Then why did she support Heritage Foundation version of HillaryCare I_AM_SAM Nov 2015 #28

what's your point here? hill2016 Nov 2015 #45

Treat the people Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #6

you know hill2016 Nov 2015 #8

They can be prevented in the first place Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #12

that's not really the problem hill2016 Nov 2015 #16

I disagree somewhat Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #21

yeah hill2016 Nov 2015 #29

This is the GOPs position AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #55

I believe you don't know shit about diabetes and obesity. Your ignorant post just showed that Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #51

I am and many in my extended family are diabetic. If we eat a perfectly balanced diabetic diet Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #52

then as you know hill2016 Nov 2015 #53

We are all type 2. The point of putting her on a diet regime is the control blood glucose levels. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #54

Unless we make other changes to the system, you'd be lucky to cut 10% out of monthly premiums by Hoyt Nov 2015 #5

The root of the problem imho is inequality. BootinUp Nov 2015 #9

You make a good point. Hoyt Nov 2015 #13

thank you hill2016 Nov 2015 #10

So what is her plan? Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #15

here you go hill2016 Nov 2015 #19

A good start for drug prices Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #23

We'd be so much better off if people had accepted Hillary Care in the early 1990s. I think she'll Hoyt Nov 2015 #17

amazing isn't it? hill2016 Nov 2015 #20

I admit to forgetting how her plan was structured back then BootinUp Nov 2015 #22

It was a bit complicated for folks, but it had authority/input at the local level to help with a Hoyt Nov 2015 #24

the fact that she was hill2016 Nov 2015 #32

K&R for this sub-thread, and the OP. Interesting discussion. nt MeNMyVolt Nov 2015 #30

the av number of procedures goes down doesn't it? Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #27

why would the number of procedures go down? hill2016 Nov 2015 #31

Hopefully it would reduce the number of unnecessary procedures Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #33

It very much depends on the type of system, and Medicare isn't very good at that either Recursion Nov 2015 #41

Why would it go down? We have 30 million uninsured and 50 million underinsured. Recursion Nov 2015 #40

I love reading Republican Underground....er, wait a minute. Sorry. Armstead Nov 2015 #34

real world facts hill2016 Nov 2015 #35

It's like stepping into the Twilight zone ... TheFarS1de Nov 2015 #43

So supporting Hilary now means attacking single-payer, aka medicare-for-all??? reformist2 Nov 2015 #36

um hill2016 Nov 2015 #37

No, but supporting math means recognizing that it won't save us money Recursion Nov 2015 #42

No need to "take a stab", CMS has the numbers. It's about 4% of that. Recursion Nov 2015 #38

yup hill2016 Nov 2015 #44

And half of that 4% isn't profit Recursion Nov 2015 #47

you also hill2016 Nov 2015 #49

which table are you using? hill2016 Nov 2015 #46

Above that one (in the CMS spreadsheet): Total Administration and Total Net Cost Recursion Nov 2015 #48

you're right hill2016 Nov 2015 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author Recursion Nov 2015 #39