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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Clinton Sheds Progressive Façade with Bold Rightward Lurch [View all]sibelian
(7,804 posts)160. It's a really dangerous strategy - SHE COULD LOSE relying on them.
They watch her far more closely than we do and Republicans, in my experience, are deeply suspicious of anything they regard as "inauthenticity".
Moderates and independents actually make up the bulk of the US electorate, but they aren't swayed by rhetoric, she doesn't mean anything to them. If she's looking for people from that cloud of disinterested participants she needs to be very careful. One good strike from the right could dislodge her completely.
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Why would ANY right leaning US citizen vote for her when they can just have a republican?
sibelian
Nov 2015
#34
"Last I heard, the true Liberals /Progressives are anti-war, so she doesn't have those votes."
Elmer S. E. Dump
Nov 2015
#209
Because the smart ones know that controlling Congress through gerrymandering and gridlock...
dogknob
Nov 2015
#264
Declaring a 'no-fly zone' over Syria would place the U.S. on a collision
KingCharlemagne
Nov 2015
#57
Doesn't the self-destruction in the R's make more moderate conservative R's in play?
HereSince1628
Nov 2015
#71
It hasn't in any election before. No reason to think it suddenly will this time.
jeff47
Nov 2015
#113
"Doesn't the self-destruction in the R's make more moderate conservative R's in play?"
in_cog_ni_to
Nov 2015
#158
Most of those high dollar donors in particular exist in a very tight bubble.
Enthusiast
Nov 2015
#41
Because if we are going to spend ever more on war, & less on Americans the pres may as well be R
peacebird
Nov 2015
#14
Hopefully people will realize Bernie is by far the better person for the job, &give him the nom!
peacebird
Nov 2015
#54
You are willing to waste your vote by writing in Bernie on the G/E ballot? Okay! ...
1StrongBlackMan
Nov 2015
#179
As I have already stated in the past. If Hillary gets the Nom then the DLC/thirdwayers have won
peacebird
Nov 2015
#189
OH stop acting like there aren't Bernie supporters that haven't said ...
1StrongBlackMan
Nov 2015
#241
Clinton has made no effort to make us think she won't continue the status quo that has
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#173
I see it as do or die for the 99% in the primary. We need to fight like there is no tomorrow
rhett o rick
Nov 2015
#187
I was addressing that narrow segment of DU that has said will not vote for HRC, ever. n/t
1StrongBlackMan
Nov 2015
#197
Is she to the right of Bernie? ... Absolutely, but to put her on the same page as republicans ...
1StrongBlackMan
Nov 2015
#268
Would HRC be a better alternative than ANY of the republican candidates? n/t
1StrongBlackMan
Nov 2015
#106
DWS/Hillary are taking a calculated risk to gain her the Democratic nomination
AgingAmerican
Nov 2015
#149
What is silly is changing "best ethical" to "only ethical" in a reply. nt
TheBlackAdder
Nov 2015
#22
Really ... Why should I change MY response to his/her initial question?
1StrongBlackMan
Nov 2015
#130
I do agree with you on this. Despite what many say, Hillary is not a Republican.
tecelote
Nov 2015
#37
Hard to take any article that considers an attack on raising the taxes on the middle class
Amimnoch
Nov 2015
#19
Odd tangent. I have issue with the tax on the middle class and that somehow equates to the
Amimnoch
Nov 2015
#24
My point was to highlight Clinton using the republican response ag universal hc rather than
RiverLover
Nov 2015
#29
Then you probably won't like this tangent either. Do you know that Single payer
A Simple Game
Nov 2015
#55
The middle class will get their tax hike back 5-10 times over in healthcare and education
Doctor_J
Nov 2015
#28
Such unmitigated bullshit. Substituting a cheaper tax for a more expensive premium--
eridani
Nov 2015
#222
Anyone who thinks Bernie can accomplish any of the false promises he's making is a thundering idiot.
Amimnoch
Nov 2015
#51
Besides being the first EVER ex-FLOTUS to have her own post presidency political career, and
Amimnoch
Nov 2015
#161
Now that Sanders has become a non-factor, she can move to the center in preparation for
Freddie Stubbs
Nov 2015
#25
btw, to those who thought Bernie's success would force Clinton to actually move left
Doctor_J
Nov 2015
#27
So she regrets the Iraq war vote but is pusing for more war in the process
d_legendary1
Nov 2015
#82
I was surprised Common Dreams published this and yet we will continue to see Hillary supporters
Todays_Illusion
Nov 2015
#120
And even if someone said 'no, she's not', I don't think she cares which party
closeupready
Nov 2015
#143
Well, that didn't take long. First debate Progressive. Push comes to shove - strong right lurch.
EndElectoral
Nov 2015
#144
Did you even read the article? It gave examples of her move to the right.
totodeinhere
Nov 2015
#180
"From her call for a major air and ground war against ISIS to her attack on single-payer"
upaloopa
Nov 2015
#182
I don't agree with you but at least now I know where you are coming from which I didn't before.
totodeinhere
Nov 2015
#207
"she'll be the most hawkish Democratic nominee since the Iraq War began."
Ed Suspicious
Nov 2015
#183
Bernie lurches rigtward as well. He calls for bombing and a ground war just like Clinton
Persondem
Nov 2015
#185
And he never mentions troops on the ground. Why kill our young Americans just to create more
RiverLover
Nov 2015
#237
Along with Hillary. She & the GOP have much in common. Like this article points out.
RiverLover
Nov 2015
#254
Perhaps you don't know the difference between special ops and regular troops.
Persondem
Nov 2015
#266
Thank God, she's going to fight terrorism by demanding that no one be able to encrypt their phones.
Warren DeMontague
Nov 2015
#188
Give her a break. After all, she was attacked by sniper fire and is probably suffering from PTSD.
Live and Learn
Nov 2015
#199
but how else will Central America be subjected to throat-slashing cartel oligarchs?!
MisterP
Nov 2015
#226
"I don’t think any sensible person would disagree that the invasion of Iraq led to......."
seafan
Nov 2015
#214
She's losing the progressives, so she's going after the disgruntled Republicans.
YOHABLO
Nov 2015
#216
It feels to me like this Hillary Push has finally crushed the fight for the soul of the Party
RiverLover
Nov 2015
#238
The polls show Bernie doing better against the Republicans than Hillary does.
JDPriestly
Nov 2015
#231